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OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Tue Dec 9, 2008 8:34 pm
by BBen
Will the OKC Thunder win in a race to the bottom to equal the worst record in the history of the game? ESPN is keeping track of the loss total: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/features/worstteams

I'm personally rooting for you to go 2-80.

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Tue Dec 9, 2008 9:11 pm
by 6_Rings
wow going 2-80 will be mind-blowing. the greatest epic fail in sports history.

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Tue Dec 9, 2008 10:07 pm
by BBen
It would definitely be mind blowing. Is it possible? Not really. But if they continue to play like they have there's very few winnable games in their schedule. With the continued falling prices of oil and that being the main economic backing of Bennett could this team lose enough money to actually force him to sell? Probably not in the near future but I'm hoping it will happen.

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:12 am
by wizkid27
Yeah... it should be an interesting race to the finish...

With the exception of one horrendous streak of games, most of the games have actually been pretty competitive, which both lets me keep hope that we won't end up with something rediculous like 2 or 3 wins and also makes the games interesting to watch. The only ones that were hard to keep watching were the ones just prior to when PJ got fired.

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:54 am
by Patches Pal
BBen wrote:It would definitely be mind blowing. Is it possible? Not really. But if they continue to play like they have there's very few winnable games in their schedule. With the continued falling prices of oil and that being the main economic backing of Bennett could this team lose enough money to actually force him to sell? Probably not in the near future but I'm hoping it will happen.


Sell to who? As we warned last year, everyone in OKC with the means to own a share of an NBA team is already in Bennett's group. Aubrey McClendon is apparently attempting to unload his 20% stake. Too bad this group did not embrace some of the parties in Seattle that were interested last year. They definately have burned alot of bridges. Attendance is softening with alot of tickets for sale on Craigslist. By the end of the season attendance will be below the league average. Then the bad economy will impact season ticket renewals for next year. I am sure the owners never factored into their plan the worst economic conditions in 80 years.

This team has a real shot at making their first achievement the record for loses in a single season. They have only 10 games left on their schedule with the bottom dwellers. Only 4 of those are at home.

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:59 am
by wizkid27
Where exactly did you hear that McClendon wanted out of his share? Just curious because I definitely hadn't heard anything like that (especially from a credible source)... There's plenty of bad news or things to make fun of the Thunder about right now, just didn't really see a reason to spread around things without any basis.

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:48 am
by BBen
Didn't hear about McClendon wanting out. Did hear however, that McClendon went from having a net worth of 2.2 bil to 425 mil in the space of a week or two. It wouldn't surprise me that he'd want out from under the Thunder.

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:26 am
by sonic-ben
are we suppose to feel bad for a mutli millionaire ... who is a thief and a liar

it not happening

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:05 pm
by ThunderPoke
Hey morons, this is the OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER forum. Take your bashing trash elsewhere.

If this thread was a bashfest, the posters here would've shown signs of being offended than simply having real talk. Is it possible that the Thunder will finish with a 2-80 record? I highly doubt it. I'm willing to bet an 8-74 or 10-72 is what they will finish with come mid April 2009. At least those chances are better than a 2-80 record.

BTB, chillax on the morons deal. It's not a bashfest.

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:37 am
by immuhguy
its called karma clay.

it would be so awesome if they finished the worst ever

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:45 am
by wiff
The funniest part about all of this is, this crappy team was meant for the fine folks in Seattle. The Blunder were supposed to be playing this season and next in Seattle. But Clay did everything he could to kill fan interest by gutting the team and then buying out the rest of the lease.

So ultimately Clay laid this pile of dung in OKC all by himself.

Now the economy is in the toilet and his team is even worse.

Karma got to love it Clay!

Here's to 2-80
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Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:38 am
by Patches Pal
Aubrey apparently still owes $100M to his broker and has been shopping his 20% interest in the team all over town. According to David Stern, half the teams in the league are losing money. The CBA will be up for renegotiation in 2011. The economy will be so bad in the next couple years there will be big loses in the NBA and plenty of teams for sale. Ballmer should wait until the new CBA is finalized. He will be able to take his pick of teams and get a good price. The OKC franchise may be one of them.

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:33 am
by immuhguy
so close...almost beat that awesome memphis team tonight

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:44 pm
by Downtown
Let's have a reality check here. I witnessed my Vancouver Grizzlies have alot of awful seasons, one where I think they only won 12 games. There is a honeymoon period of a couple years where fans are simply excited to have a team and watch NBA basketball. The win/loss stat isn't a huge thing So I don't see attendance being a dropoff in the near future.

But after a while both the fans and the players begin to feel the losses grind down on them. Towards the end of the Grizzlies stay here in Vancouver most of us went to the choice games only when there was a big star coming to town and that's who we watched, not our own team. I'm not saying OKC is going to be that low since there's plenty of time to turn your poor team around, but Presti better realize at some point people aren't going to spend their hard earned money to support a joke. And if thattime comes that's when the owners feel the big hit as well.

But right now I certainly wouldn't call OKC the worst of all time. There have been plenty before them, all equally crappy. One move can change the whole mindset. I remember when our horrible GM Stu Jackson turned down an offer from Phoenix of a young Steve Nash, who was backup to both Jason Kidd and Kevin Johnson at the time for our #4 pick. He said that the guy he wanted, which ended up being Antonio Daniels, was going to be a far better player.

Now just imagine if we did the trade and got our hometown boy. Attendance wouldn't have been a problem, and I'm sure there would have been alot more wins as well. Presti needs one big, bold move for an established star caliber player.

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:08 pm
by BBen
According to that link the projected record of the Thunder is 7-75 which is two games worse than the all-time worst record ever. That's pretty awesome.

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:30 pm
by wizkid27
Downtown, I totally agree with you that the long term success of the team in this city isn't in danger at all.

But to stay with this specific topic, about the worst single season record of all time, it's definitely possible. However, I would say that I've seen a lot of teams play far worse streches of basketball than the Thunder have played lately.

That said, and despite loving to see some winning basketball, I'm completely fine with the plan that we get a top 4 (nearly guaranteed) pick this year.. hopefully #1 obviously (25% if we're last). Then maybe another high pick the next year and sign a free agent to fill in a remaining gap. With that plan, we would be going into the last year of Durant and Green's contract, so we wouldn't have risked losing them at that point. With those pretty simple and not at all unlikely moves, we should at least start to see a good amount of wins... I'm not talking championships and depending upon the strength of the west in a couple of years maybe not even playoffs... but a team that can consistently challenge most of the league on a night-to-night basis. Obviuosly any trades could speed this process along or alter the composition of our team, but Presti is a smart guy and I'm pretty sure that management doesn't have any interest in having a very poor team beyond the 2009/2010 season.

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:08 am
by 88' Draft Pick
With the way this team has been playing lately, they will win more than 9 games. Have any of you trolls actually been paying attention to this team or just snickering with snot nosed, teenage-like delight at our record? Because honestly, all of you are coming off as extremely pompous. This is a Thunder board and if you are just coming to hate on our team or Clay Bennett (who personally I dont care for either) then go somewhere else because you are certainly not welcome here.

Anyway, Oklahoma City has been playing with fire. It took 46 points from Dirk to beat us by 4 and we played great against the veteran Spurs. Both road games mind you. The tide is going to turn for this team sooner or later. The record is quite decieving. This team has nothing to be ashamed of and we have a bright, bright future.

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:11 am
by wizkid27
Once again... I've really got to agree with you. Despite the attrocious 2 and whatever it is now record, the team has really been impressive. There's NO WAY that this team even compares with the play of the late 90s nuggets team starting notable players like Vincent Yarbrough...

There's a promising future, and despite the lack of W's, really decent bball to be watched right now.

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:24 pm
by wiff
You know last year the Sonics picked it up and played fair well during the month of December and even beat the Spurs between X-mas and New Years. I remember telling myself that this team was close to being competitive. Many nights they were in it up until about the 8 minute mark of the 4th quarter and that's when teams would put the clamps down on the Sonics and pull away.

I kept telling myself this team wasn't as bad as their record. But bottom line at the end of the season they really were as bad as their record.

I do think the move of Green and Durant to PF and SF should have been done in training camp but let's face it PJ is an idiot.

You would think that with this years draft the Blunder should be able draft a Center with their high lottery pick.

Hard part is what happens if the Blunder get the #1 pick overall? Do they take the local kid Griffin and trade Green?

Interesting part is that Presti drafted Ibanka from Congo last year and is storing him in Europe

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I love this kid, he has an offensive game. And he has some crazy hops.

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The dude is ripped. And has been playing the game since he was a kid. Apparently both his parents played ball. So he has a high BBall iq.

The positive for Blunder fans is that Presti has tons of assets and draft picks.

But that's down the road.

Today, this team is bad, really bad. And you can sugar coat it however you want. But at the end of the season they will be the worst team in NBA history.

Re: OKC the worst team ever?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:29 pm
by wizkid27
I totally agree that they're bad. But I don't believe I'm sugar coating it at all to say that they are better than several teams of the past. Actually, I think they're closer (both as a team and asset-wise) to being competitive in this league than a few other teams currently are.