When a point guard out rebounds your centers

[sonic-ben]

you get a season of 2-22

against dalles
like how are top three players shot well

but why could not Durant guard the german dude 46 points

[wizkid27]

Definitely true. Of course on the other side, Westbrook was outrebounding a lot of their big guys too. He's really starting to remind me of steve francis when he came into the league. That may not be a favorable comparison with Stevie's rep now, but I really think they have fairly similar games (francis in his early 20s vs westbrook in his early 20s).

[london sonic]

you get a season of 2-22

against dalles
like how are top three players shot well

but why could not Durant guard the german dude 46 points

Didnt Green guard dirk.But anyway 2-22 not good is it but roll on draft and Blake griffin unless we get stitched in lottery.Griffin looks like he could solve some of the rebounding problems.

[jazzfan1971]

When's Swift returning?

[wizkid27]

When's Swift returning?

From CBSSports:

Swift has no timetable: The Oklahoman is reporting that Thunder center Robert Swift still hasn't returned to practice, but is improving. He did not play in Saturday's game at Miami. "I honestly don’t know how I hurt it," Swift said. "I woke up one morning and couldn’t move. It feels like it’s been two months, not 10 days. But it’s a lot better. Doctors can’t give me a timetable. ... It’s not going to be too much longer."
(Updated 12/06/2008).

That's the most up to date info I've really seen...

[sonic-ben]

what wrong with swift?

[wizkid27]

"discomfort in his lower back"

I really haven't heard anything official put on it outside of that. From the quotes from Swift, it doesn't seem like it's anything diagnosable either... other than just being a really tall dude with a bad back, hehe.

[chrbal]

Not trying to be a prick or anything, but this is the first time in a while that a team might actually challenge the '73 Sixers 9 win season. The Thunder will probably get something like 11, but still this is just awful to watch.

You have 3 scorers and then you have 7 guys who average between 8.7 points and 5.1 points per game. Thats not a good thing.

I could easily see this team change half of its roster this season. Either by trade or waiving a veteran like Joe Smith after the trade deadline.

[wizkid27]

I really don't see much of the roster turning over within this season. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong, but I think they'll get thru this crappy season, and put all of their money on revamping things in the offseason and selling a "new and improved Thunder" product then. From a PR standpoint, making smaller moves now just waters down the impact of that change.

As far as the current on-court product... I feel like for ~36 minutes per game, they really have a good product and are pretty enjoyable to watch. They make the games competitive and seem to have solid flow/spacing/rotations on offense and defense for a good portion of the game. I know that they're on pace for a bad record, and I'm not even trying to make the argument that they're a below average team... I have just seen a lot of teams in the past play at a consistently lower and less watchable level than where this team is playing at. My favorite is the late 90s Nuggets team that featured wonderful players like Tskitishvili, Junior Harrington, and Vincent Yarbrough... they weren't just on the team, but started regularly. Now I know we've sucked, but really??

[realfung]

Maybe your center will out assist your point guard as well.

[wizkid27]

hehe, quite possible if we bring in Kristic. Although, Westbrook did put up a really nice 8 assists tonight. However, I would say that most of those came from handling the ball, as opposed to truly setting up teammates for easy buckets.