Greg Monroe

london sonic · Post #1 » by **london sonic** » Thu Jan 1, 2009 11:38 pm

Have been really impressed with this freshman PF/C he looks like a top prospect,great passer out of the post,good to 15 feet,good rebounder,great basketball IQ,great team player,good defender and also took Thabeet to the cleaners .looks like a Presti type player.Just wondering is it likely he will declare and if he continues the progress he has made could OKC consider taking him over Griffin or Harden.Id definately take him over Thabeet.

ljp24 · Post #2 » by **ljp24** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 12:23 am

It's very likely, he's been in the spotlight since 2005.

I haven't seen much of Monroe so I don't if he can play great defense, which should one of our top priorities.

Post #3 » by **SD2042** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 12:33 am

Greg Monroe's popularity has risen is recent weeks. His defensive ethic is the main reason. His rebounding, shot blocking, and his ability to pass the ball out the block shows promise of him becoming a better playing down the road. His offense is pretty good as he can knock down the 10-15 footer. He still a bit raw to a degree. If Monroe continues with more hard work to improve his skills, he could turn out to be a potential better player.

Most ppl I've talked to in recent weeks who take in over Thabeet in a second. Thabeet shows signs of rawness in his skills and needs to tune them up more during the next few months to improve his draft stock. If Monroe expects to be better than Griffin, that may be a hard pill to shallow. Unless Griffin does something to cause his stock to drop.

Patches Pal · Post #4 » by **Patches Pal** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 7:14 pm

Monroe, is a carbon copy of Robert Swift at the same age. Alot of potential but too little experience to plug him into the lineup and expect great results. Swift may be a safer bet at this time. The high draft pick needs to be used on someone that will definately contribute, not a gamble on potential.

Patches Pal · Post #5 » by **Patches Pal** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 7:15 pm

Monroe, is a carbon copy of Robert Swift at the same age. Alot of potential but too little experience to plug him into the lineup and expect great results. Swift may be a safer bet at this time. The high draft pick needs to be used on someone that will definately contribute, not a gamble on potential.

london sonic · Post #6 » by **london sonic** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 8:04 pm

Patches Pal wrote:Monroe, is a carbon copy of Robert Swift at the same age. Alot of potential but too little experience to plug him into the lineup and expect great results. Swift may be a safer bet at this time. The high draft pick needs to be used on someone that will definately contribute, not a gamble on potential.

I understand concerns at taking a gamble on potential.Pretty sure if Griffins avaliable its a no brainer he gets picked but the lottery could see us dropping out of the first few picks again and Monroe wouldnt be a bad consilation.The comparison to swift though is way off as there not similar players Monroe although playing Center at Georgetown is a PF in the NBA.Maybe though your comparison is just based on potential.IF Rubio and Monroe declare a top four of Griffin,Rubio,Monroe and Harden doesnt look to bad considering we could end up with the worst record and be guaranteed one of these 4 players.

wiff · Post #7 » by **wiff** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 8:18 pm

It would be PR suicide if the Blunder passed on Griffin for Monroe.

With the Blunder flirting with the all time worst record of the league, passing up on Griffin would be the biggest mistake ever. Even if Monroe ends up being a better player 6 years down the road.

I can't imagine that the Blunder would be able to absorb the loss of tickets sales. Sure right now they are doing fine with all the pre-sold season tickets for this season but next season will be a different story.

How many fans are going to be lining up to dump a few grand on tickets when the product at this point is not very stellar. They need Griffin so people will be more likely to come back. Griffin will sell a ton of tickets. Monroe although he might be a nice talent simply won't have the same kind of impact.

I have a feeling that come draft day Sam Presti ends up with Griffin on the roster even if they don't have the #1 pick.

Post #8 » by **SD2042** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 12:41 am

If they don't get the #1 pick in the draft and expect to have Griffin on their roster. You know a trade will have to take place. The question will be what the other team wants in return.

jman23 · Post #9 » by **jman23** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 2:47 am

forget blake griffin i want greg monroe!! i love his hook shot and backdoor passing skills maybe the thunder can draft xavier henry in 2010(hometown hero).

Patches Pal · Post #10 » by **Patches Pal** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 4:21 am

Monroe, would not make my top 10 list. Mainly because he is only 6-10 and a PF that does not score that much and Wilcox and Collison are probably better. I would go with Griffin, Rubio, Harden, Rozen, Curry or Jrue Holiday. Filling the SG position with a scorer would ensure the team won at least 20 games. With the late pick I would consider Cole Aldrich, a legit center that can score. He probably will be gone before pick 20 because there are so few centers and it is a weak draft.

sonic-ben · Post #11 » by **sonic-ben** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 5:54 pm

hE WILL NOT COME OUT THIS YEAR

darthkiller · Post #12 » by **darthkiller** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 6:02 pm

come on now, draft blake griffin /thread

Post #13 » by **wizkid27** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 9:24 pm

This guy isn't really on my radar. Admittedly, I haven't seen him play at all. But, as Wiff said, having the chance to draft Griffin and not (even if it required a trade), would be a big PR mishap for this team in its new city...

sonic-ben · Post #14 » by **sonic-ben** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 11:17 pm

#1 Griffen PF
#2 Harden SG

these guys start from day one

london sonic · Post #15 » by **london sonic** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 1:42 am

wizkid27 wrote:This guy isn't really on my radar. Admittedly, I haven't seen him play at all. But, as Wiff said, having the chance to draft Griffin and not (even if it required a trade), would be a big PR mishap for this team in its new city...

Griffin is a given if avaliable.But we arent guaranteed 1st pick and he will be.Monroe Ive seen play on TV three times now and really impresses.commentators have likened him to a young Bosh and Rasheed Wallace.

BadWolf · Post #16 » by **BadWolf** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 3:12 pm

Griffin seems like a logical choice.
but how does he fit the roster?
He needs ball, plays the same spot as Durant and is a defensive liability.
Monroe is less ball dominant, plays great defense and can play centre.
So, wouldn't it be smart to step down a place or two and pick a prospect or maybe even starting sg in the process?

london sonic · Post #17 » by **london sonic** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 3:23 pm

BadWolf wrote:Griffin seems like a logical choice.
but how does he fit the roster?
He needs ball, plays the same spot as Durant and is a defensive liability.
Monroe is less ball dominant, plays great defense and can play centre.
So, wouldn't it be smart to step down a place or two and pick a prospect or maybe even starting sg in the process?

Griffin is a natural PF doesnt play same position as Durant but Green does.The thing with Griffin is that he can come and contribute straight away and yes is a good PR tool.Monroe on potential does look a better player but will he reach it .But I would not be disapointed if we landed him if missed out on Griffin.

BadWolf · Post #18 » by **BadWolf** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 3:29 pm

my bad, Green offcourse.
Well, the team can still move green for Kaman

wiff · Post #19 » by **wiff** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 6:13 pm

If I were Presti, I'd draft Griffin and let Brooks worry about handing out the minutes.

I imagine that either this trade deadline or the Spurs draft pick Presti should be able to shore up the SG problem.

Then use the wait and see approach with the Nad. I believe Presti can choose to not use a qualifying offer on Petro. So with Swift and Sene both having expirings if he lets Petro walk that's close to 8mil Presti can throw at a Center who has proved he can play in the league.

But back to my point about Green, Griffin and Durant.

I'd tell the rookie Griffin that he will get starter minutes but he is going to have to come off the bench. Ala Vlad Radmanovic during the season the Sonics won 52 games. Plus it also gives Griffin a chance to go against other NBA reserves which he should eat their lunch.

When Durant needs a blow have Green slide to the SF. And when Griffin needs a blow Green plays PF.

Plus I'm sure there will be times when they go big or small. When they go big Durant can play a few minutes at the two. And when they go small Griffin can play a few minutes at Center like Collison does.

It automatically makes the Blunder a much deeper team too.

Say these three get 37 minutes a night. Which is more than Green is currently getting. Heck Griffin can simply play 30 minutes his rookie year and this would still work.

Griffin 29 minutes at PF and 8 minutes at Center.
Durant 29 minutes at SF and 8 minutes at SG
Green 18.5 minutes at SF and 18.5 minutes at PF

I wouldn't trade Green until they have proven this can't work. Plus it not a slam dunk Griffin's game is going to translate to the next level. It looks like it will, it looks like the kid is going to be a monster, but you never know. Look at Joe Smith and Stromile Smith, these guys are obviously still in the league but they are not what they projected to be. I do question how long Griffin is though. He doesn't really look to be an honest 6'10". He can sure jump though.

BadWolf · Post #20 » by **BadWolf** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 7:47 pm

I know what you're thinking, but it's really the same situation as 2007 draft, you'd get a player that plays on the same position as one of your best payers. It's nice to have depth, specially when depth is Green or Griffin, but can a team with no SG and little at C afford that? it can work out, I'm not saying it's impossible, but the team should really take a look at other options.
1. they can luck out of nr1 pick, which is actually a big chance, 75% or sthg... Take Harden/Monroe or whoever is the best 2/5 at that position.
2. draft Griffin, explore trade options for Green, maybe even Durant. Durant probably won't bring back equal value, most marquee somewhat available players are FAs in 2010 and would probably leave for greener pastures. green on the other hand could net sthg very useful. If you can get Kaman for Green you have to think long and hard about that. Westbrook/xy/Durant/Griffin/Kaman looks really really good. the only problem is defense, can that frontcourt guard anyone, they look eary similar to Utah lineup on defensive end. Maybe you could get Rudy/Webster/pick from Portland? I think Rudy is a bit overrated, but Presti might see Manu in him in which case that's a no brainer. Westbrook/Fernandez/Durant/Griffin/xy is also solid.
What do you think is Green's ceiling? Something like Butler?