Very small trade idea: Portland/OKC

[Effigy]

Just wonderining if you guys would do a swap of role players on expiring contracts:

Joe Smith

for

Channing Frye and Shavlik Randolph

Smith's obviously not in OKC's long term plans, this move saves them money in the short term, and they get a look at the much younger Frye in their system for half a season.

Portland gets a seasoned vet to add to their young core for their playoff push.

As mentioned all players are on expiring contracts, so none of them impact the salary cap space plans of either team next year.

[wizkid27]

I think it's good enough for OKC to explore... Frye is a solid young player with a good bit of talent. Not really sure if this is the kind of deal they're looking to do or not... Seems like they're pretty interested in stockpiling future picks in an effort to pull off a bigger deal at some point down the road.

[sonic-ben]

Add a future #1 ... its a deal

[BadWolf]

Frye can be signed in the offseason

[sonic-ben]

so what... thats wht a #1 is need for oklahoma

[Effigy]

Nobody's going to give up a future #1 for Joe Smith. He can be signed in the off season as well. I'd throw in one of our 2nds, between that and the $500,000 your owner saves in contracts, I'd say it's worth doing for you guys.

[Big_Mac79]

Nobody's going to give up a future #1 for Joe Smith. He can be signed in the off season as well. I'd throw in one of our 2nds, between that and the $500,000 your owner saves in contracts, I'd say it's worth doing for you guys.

He can be signed in the off season but this would be a trade for this season. See as people are heading to the playoffs they would need a productive big. You think Ike would be a piece for the future in OKC? Collison, Wilcox, White are already in the system at that position and only one gets PT. So if you want a productive veteran big for THIS season it will cost you

[sonic-ben]

people want to be cheap

then wait and lose in the playoffs

[shamelessblazer]

I'd much rather get Desmond Mason (from a POR perspective), he lives out here and is good on D and encouraging young players (right?). He works out with our guys in the offseason already and is high character. What's been your guys' experience with him?

Maybe in a three-way send Channing somewhere he can play (perhaps San Antonio), send something expiring and high second rounder to OKC, and send Mason back to Portland.

We need the help at SF more than PF (Outlaw plays PF better than SF) and Webster's been out so long. Mason being an expiring helps us keep maximum flexibility.

[wizkid27]

I would doubt that Mason will leave... he's a fan favorite due to the OSU connections and really just does a lot of the small stuff for our team. I think there would probably be some pretty displeased fans if he left. Doubt that they would give that up for a 2nd rounder and a guy that may or may not contribute to the team now or down the road.

[shamelessblazer]

do you really think as a vet Mason wants to be on such a terrible team? He'll be gone after this year anyway, if Presti's from the same school as pritchard (which it seems like he is) they're all about asset maximization (you don't let anyone walk for nothing w/o trying to find a suitor first).

[wiff]

do you really think as a vet Mason wants to be on such a terrible team? He'll be gone after this year anyway, if Presti's from the same school as pritchard (which it seems like he is) they're all about asset maximization (you don't let anyone walk for nothing w/o trying to find a suitor first).

Does anyone ever want to play on any terrible team?

You said it yourself you don't let anyone walk for free. But a low second round pick is worth about 2 cents. So what's more important, a crappy second rounder which OKC already have about a kazillion of them or losing their starting SG right now while they are 6-6 over their last 12 games?

I guess you might need to up your offer if you want to ease the pain of Pritchards smooth effort in the Miles dibacle

Talk about Prithcard maximizing his assets. Nothing like getting 18mil on the books and nothing to show for it but an ugly memo.

[Effigy]

You said it yourself you don't let anyone walk for free. But a low second round pick is worth about 2 cents. So what's more important, a crappy second rounder which OKC already have about a kazillion of them or losing their starting SG right now while they are 6-6 over their last 12 games?

I guess you might need to up your offer if you want to ease the pain of Pritchards smooth effort in the Miles dibacle

Talk about Prithcard maximizing his assets. Nothing like getting 18mil on the books and nothing to show for it but an ugly memo.

You have a kazillion 2nd round picks? Hmmm. I just checked and you have one. Yours. Your math skills are atrocious. And we have 4 2nd round picks, Ours, Denvers, the Knicks and the Clippers. So obviously we don't just have 'low second round picks', the Knicks or Clippers' pick will both be quite high.

You can find valuable players in the second round, Smith is doing nothing to help you in the future, nor will he resign after this year, take the pick and run. No offense, but you guys just lost to the Clippers without Baron Davis, Zach Randolph, Marcus Camby or Chris Kaman. You need all the help you can get and really aren't in a position to be turning down deals that make you even marginally better and don't cost you anything long term.

[wizkid27]

I would say that trading Mason for a 2nd round pick is a bad idea. As wiff said, he's our starting SG, our team is playing .500 ball over about the last month. I'm not saying we're going for a championship, or even a playoff berth, but like it was said NOBODY wants to play on a terrible team. In the last month, the Thunder have gone from everyone saying "is this the worst team in history?" to "hey, if they get the right one or two more pieces, they could be a really great team!".

Smith is probably a different story... with Green moving to PF and Kristc getting playing time... there hasn't been any left over for Wilcox or Smith. I definitely agree that we need to get something for these two guys if possible, and although he's not expiring and has gotten minutes, I would through Watson into that category as well. Hopefully we can walk away with more than a 2nd round pick... but even if we got a 2nd round pick for each of those guys, that's a lot of dice to roll!

[wiff]

You said it yourself you don't let anyone walk for free. But a low second round pick is worth about 2 cents. So what's more important, a crappy second rounder which OKC already have about a kazillion of them or losing their starting SG right now while they are 6-6 over their last 12 games?

I guess you might need to up your offer if you want to ease the pain of Pritchards smooth effort in the Miles dibacle

Talk about Prithcard maximizing his assets. Nothing like getting 18mil on the books and nothing to show for it but an ugly memo.

You have a kazillion 2nd round picks? Hmmm. I just checked and you have one. Yours. Your math skills are atrocious. And we have 4 2nd round picks, Ours, Denvers, the Knicks and the Clippers. So obviously we don't just have 'low second round picks', the Knicks or Clippers' pick will both be quite high.

You can find valuable players in the second round, Smith is doing nothing to help you in the future, nor will he resign after this year, take the pick and run. No offense, but you guys just lost to the Clippers without Baron Davis, Zach Randolph, Marcus Camby or Chris Kaman. You need all the help you can get and really aren't in a position to be turning down deals that make you even marginally better and don't cost you anything long term.

I forgot that Sam traded a second round pick for Kyle Weaver and he also packaged a second round pick to Denver along with Petro for Atkins and Denver's 1st rd pick.

So scratch what I said about a Kazillion second round picks, the Thunder have a Kalzillon first round picks.

My mistake.

By the way how is drafting Oden over Durant working out for you guys? I haven't paid much attention to Oden this year but I'm sure the guy has to be putting up like 25pts and 14boards with like 3blks a night right? After all Pritchard drafted him over Durant and Durant has been absolutely sensational. Heck againts the Clippers he had 46pts 15board something like 4dimes 2stls and 1 blk.

Oh wait don't you guys need help at the SF position? Huh???? Oh well I'm sure Oden is dominating like Wilt and Bill Russell combined. I bet he makes Shaq look like a school girl huh.

[shamelessblazer]

Sorry about the pick misunderstanding, by low I meant top ten...of which we have two. BUT, this wiff guy is hilarious, not only does he have pride in the worst team in basketball, but they're also in OKLAHOMA! (there's a reason we forced the indians to live there).

Anyways, I understand if you like Mason and don't want to give him back, I just don't see why he'd resign there or you'd resign him (how long/how many years), this draft you could get three decent complimentary guys (with some luck as always) and really build your team, but you're young enough you still have at least a year of being terrible.

And, LOL Oden/Durant, shut up dude, your an idiot. I'd take Roy or Aldridge over Durant, Roy is better and Aldridge is big and has potential, and as far as the Oden thing, I'll wait a couple of years. I'm not sure Durant will ever be much more than a glorified chucker. He can throw up some points now, but lets see in a couple of years when he has teammates to pass to if he even does, that will be the sign. Roy has shown he can be good on a good team, we'll see about Durant. I can't wait till we play you and Aldridge and Oden combine for 40 points, 25 rebounds, and 5 blocks on your POS posts.

[Effigy]

By the way how is drafting Oden over Durant working out for you guys? I haven't paid much attention to Oden this year but I'm sure the guy has to be putting up like 25pts and 14boards with like 3blks a night right? After all Pritchard drafted him over Durant and Durant has been absolutely sensational. Heck againts the Clippers he had 46pts 15board something like 4dimes 2stls and 1 blk.

Oh wait don't you guys need help at the SF position? Huh???? Oh well I'm sure Oden is dominating like Wilt and Bill Russell combined. I bet he makes Shaq look like a school girl huh.

Durant has been sensational? Huh. So you guys must be rolling up the wins right? We're at the midway point, what have you got, 25, 30 wins?

When Greg Oden has big games, Portland actually wins.... guess you wouldn't know about that though.

But you're right, Pritchard should be fired for not foreseeing that Oden would need microfracture surgery, and Oden and Durant are likely to both retire after this year so it is clear that we should have taken Durant. Your logic skills are as good as your math skills sir!

[wiff]

And, LOL Oden/Durant, shut up dude, your an idiot. I'd take Roy or Aldridge over Durant,

I can't wait till we play you and Aldridge and Oden combine for 40 points, 25 rebounds, and 5 blocks on your POS posts.

I like how you try to change the subject and insert Aldridge and Roy vs Durant not Oden.

So I didn't know YOU were on the team Shameless? Travis Outlaw is that you?

I'm not on the Thunder. I'm a 6 foot white guy who has very average game.
Just wondering have Oden and Aldridge ever combined for 40 and 25 and 5 blocks ever? Because I doubt it.

But you're right, Pritchard should be fired for not foreseeing that Oden would need microfracture surgery, and Oden and Durant are likely to both retire after this year so it is clear that we should have taken Durant. Your logic skills are as good as your math skills sir!

Pritchard shouldn't be fire because of Odens Microfracture surgery but he should be canned for taking a stiff over a stud.

And by the way it's re-sign not resign. Re-sign me to sign a contract again with the same team. Resign means to step down from a position you hold.

[shamelessblazer]

I like how you try to change the subject and insert Aldridge and Roy vs Durant not Oden.

I love your blatant idiotic hypocrisy guy, when was the conversation Oden/Durant either?

[Effigy]

But you're right, Pritchard should be fired for not foreseeing that Oden would need microfracture surgery, and Oden and Durant are likely to both retire after this year so it is clear that we should have taken Durant. Your logic skills are as good as your math skills sir!

Pritchard shouldn't be fire because of Odens Microfracture surgery but he should be canned for taking a stiff over a stud.

And by the way it's re-sign not resign. Re-sign me to sign a contract again with the same team. Resign means to step down from a position you hold.

Ah, the white flag of surrender in the internet wars, pointing out grammar errors. I accept my victory, good luck to your team.