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Steph Curry anyone?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 6:51 am
by Durantist
Say OKC falls in the draft. Griffin,Rubio,Thabeet, and Harden have been taken. Steph Curry anyone? He maybe the next Eric Gordon of this draft class. Drafting Curry adds perimeter shooting to the team and solid pg play, better than westbrook might i add. His huge weakness jumping into the NBA level is that he is way to small to defend the 2s in the league, but thats OK because Westbrook has the ability to defend the 2s. I see Curry putting up near the same numbers as Eric Gordon did this season. He is absolutely a Presti type player. I wouldn't be surprised if Presti snags him at 4.

Re: Steph Curry anyone?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 10:12 am
by slick_watts
curry won't be drafted before harden or thabeet unless he really impresses in workouts.

Re: Steph Curry anyone?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 3:58 pm
by wiff
Durantist wrote:Say OKC falls in the draft. Griffin,Rubio,Thabeet, and Harden have been taken. Steph Curry anyone? He maybe the next Eric Gordon of this draft class. Drafting Curry adds perimeter shooting to the team and solid pg play, better than westbrook might i add. His huge weakness jumping into the NBA level is that he is way to small to defend the 2s in the league, but thats OK because Westbrook has the ability to defend the 2s. I see Curry putting up near the same numbers as Eric Gordon did this season. He is absolutely a Presti type player. I wouldn't be surprised if Presti snags him at 4.


How can you say Curry is a better PG than Westbrook? Curry plays at Davidson in the "Southern" Conference can you actually name any other team in that conference without having to go to this web page?

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/teams

Westbrook is doing what he is doing on a pro level.

Curry is not even close to a PG. Curry is the classic example of a SG trapped in a PG's body.

At Davidson, Curry had to do everything and I think he will be a nice role player in the league but no way would I take him with the #4 pick.

However I'm still trying to figure out why you think Curry is a better PG than Westbrook? Last season Curry averaged at Davidson in a WEAK conference
5.6assists
3.7TO
1.51 Assist to Turnover ratio

Westbrook averaged in the NBA the best basketball league on the planet.
5.3assists
3.3TO's
1.61 Assist to Turnover ratio.

If that's confusing ask Slick to give you a tutorial.

Westbrook is playing against the best players in the world and Curry isn't even going against the best players in his state.

This reminds me when people were trying to claim that Beasley was going to be better than Durant, during Durant's rookie season and Beasley's freshman year at K-State. Or when people were talking about how the Sonics should trade Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis and draft Adam Morrison and JJ Reddick. Because Reddick and Morrison were the same kind of players Allen and Lewis were.

There is such an amazing difference in talent even between the best conferences in college basketball compared to the NBA much less the difference between "Southern" conference and the NBA.

There are something like 300 D1 collegiate schools in the USA and only 30 NBA teams. You have to be soooooooooooo good to simply sit on the pine in the NBA.

All that being said I would have no problem seeing Curry land in OKC because the guy can flat out shoot the rock, but no way do I use a top 5 pick on him.

Patty Mills should still be hanging around at the 25th pick and he can shoot lights out too. To me he is a similar type of player as Curry.

Re: Steph Curry anyone?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 4:36 pm
by slick_watts
i think curry could be a monta ellis type of player, though more of a shooter and less of a slasher. the primary difference between curry and westrbook is that westbrook's got long arms and can guard 2's, i don't see curry guarding nba 2's. i'd be surprised if he measured out at his listed height of 6'3".

more likely he'll be an eddie house clone imo; good guy to have off the bench but a liability in a starting lineup

Re: Steph Curry anyone?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 7:11 pm
by Durantist
However I'm still trying to figure out why you think Curry is a better PG than Westbrook? Last season Curry averaged at Davidson in a WEAK conference
5.6assists
3.7TO
1.51 Assist to Turnover ratio

Westbrook averaged in the NBA the best basketball league on the planet.
5.3assists
3.3TO's
1.61 Assist to Turnover ratio.
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Ah the good old assist to turnover ratio. Numbers doesn't always answer everything about a player, if this were true then lets crown Jose Calderon as the best PG in the today's game. Gameplay folks, gameplay. We could rattle on about this stat and that stat, Iverson has better stats than Billups, so does this mean iverson is the better player? Here is one of the all-time best coaches breaking down Steph Curry's PG play

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JyTIQq5H-g

Re: Steph Curry anyone?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 7:37 pm
by slick_watts
Durantist wrote:Ah the good old assist to turnover ratio. Numbers doesn't always answer everything about a player, if this were true then lets crown Jose Calderon as the best PG in the today's game.


what does this even mean? calderon had the best A:TO ratio in the nba, and it means he is great at taking care of the ball. doesn't mean that he's the best point guard. most measurements would put him as above average, which is right where most would put him.

i think it's pretty fair to say that curry and westbrook handle the ball similarly, based on the numbers or not.

Durantist wrote:Gameplay folks, gameplay. We could rattle on about this stat and that stat, Iverson has better stats than Billups, so does this mean iverson is the better player?


iverson hasn't had a better statisical season than billups since he left philly, and even the last three years in philly could go either way and are not conclusive.. i don't see what point you're trying to make here?

Durantist wrote:Here is one of the all-time best coaches breaking down Steph Curry's PG play

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JyTIQq5H-g


i'm sure if we all looked hard enough we could find plenty of coaches vouching for the skills of players who ended up mediocre or even out of the league, so i'm not going to touch this one.

Re: Steph Curry anyone?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 8:45 pm
by wiff
slick_watts wrote:i think curry could be a monta ellis type of player, though more of a shooter and less of a slasher. the primary difference between curry and westrbook is that westbrook's got long arms and can guard 2's, i don't see curry guarding nba 2's. i'd be surprised if he measured out at his listed height of 6'3".

more likely he'll be an eddie house clone imo; good guy to have off the bench but a liability in a starting lineup


It must be a cold day in hell because Slick and I actually agree on something.

Durantist wrote:Ah the good old assist to turnover ratio. Numbers doesn't always answer everything about a player, if this were true then lets crown Jose Calderon as the best PG in the today's game. Gameplay folks, gameplay. We could rattle on about this stat and that stat, Iverson has better stats than Billups, so does this mean iverson is the better player? Here is one of the all-time best coaches breaking down Steph Curry's PG play

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JyTIQq5H-g


Well taking care of the ball is part of a pg responsibilities. Curry is even worse at it than Westbrook (notice I use the word "worse" because neither are very "good" at it). And that's not taking into the account that Westbrook has to go up against guys like Paul, Rondo and other starting NBA pg guards.

Can you tell me if the "Southern" conference is even going to have a player drafted other than Curry, (at any position)?

Let's not put lip stick on a pig and call it pretty.
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I think Slick hit the mark when he compared him to Eddie House. There is nothing wrong with that but Eddie House is not worth a top 5 pick.

I have actually stated before I think the Thunder should go after a guy like an Eddie House instead of throwing a bunch of money at Ben Gordon.

Curry will find a place for himself somewhere in the league but I don't see it being in a starting line up on a respectable team.

Tell me this who was the better prospect coming out of college JJ Reddick or Steph Curry?

Re: Steph Curry anyone?

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:38 am
by Narcist
Curry would be more of a hybrid SG really. To me hes not athletic enough and way to soft defensively and i cant see him finishing much of anything inside in the nba. However he can shoot the lights out on a good night and i see him coming of the bench doing that. kyle korver/Rudy Fernandez like numbers.