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Rubio probably does not want to be a Grizz or Thunder

Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 4:19 pm
by king a
http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jonathan-Givony/

"Rubio doesn't want to go to Memphis, and he especially does not want to pay money out of his own pocket with that huge buyout for the honor of doing so. Fegan [Rubio's agent] wants him in L.A., and if he can't have him there, he wants him in Sacramento. Definitely not Oklahoma City. " :x these divas.

Re: Rubio probably does not want to be a Grizz or Thunder

Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 4:51 pm
by Devin 1L
What little punk.

I really can't stand players that want to dictate where they go (Francis, Yi, etc.)

This isn't free agency you ass, it's a draft, and you haven't proven crap, so stop acting like some pretentious little bitch and go wherever you get drafted and keep your mouth shut.

[/end rant that really irks me]

Re: Rubio probably does not want to be a Grizz or Thunder

Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:52 pm
by SacTown Kings
Good news for the Kings, sounds good to me.

Re: Rubio probably does not want to be a Grizz or Thunder

Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:59 pm
by Hiphophead101
Couldn't he have done it under the radar and at least let #2 and #3 trade down draft rights to #4 team so you could actually get more for it? Dick move...

Thinking on it too... he would have came to Seattle.

Re: Rubio probably does not want to be a Grizz or Thunder

Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:27 pm
by Scorpion King
Hiphophead101 wrote:Couldn't he have done it under the radar and at least let #2 and #3 trade down draft rights to #4 team so you could actually get more for it? Dick move...

Thinking on it too... he would have came to Seattle.


i agree he would have come to Seattle

Re: Rubio probably does not want to be a Grizz or Thunder

Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:20 pm
by JO_CB_FTW
Picky SOB

Re: Rubio probably does not want to be a Grizz or Thunder

Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:58 pm
by mnkinga23
I take two things away from this:
1) It is a really dicey situation when you try to exert power or influence in getting to a particular team (or away from an unwanted team), when you haven't proven yourself on that level of competition. Best case scenario, you could be Eli Manning. Worst case, your Yi Jianlin.
2) It shows the difference in class between a Blake Griffin and Ricky Rubio. Griffin could have made a huge stink being forced to go to the worst organization in all of professional sports (two winning seasons in 31 years). Griffin is going into the situation with a positive outlook and in a few years he will have a chance to leave after he has cemented his reputation in the league.
Regardless of how he feels about OKC, I don't think that Rubio would be a good fit for the Thunder because I don't think that you could play both Westbrook and Rubio in the same backcourt. It's hard to have good offensive flow when the opposition doesn't have to guard either of the guard positions past the foul line.

Re: Rubio probably does not want to be a Grizz or Thunder

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:36 am
by lou4gehrig
I love it. I'm agree with Rubio on this one. He's a worldwide star. Why diminish his brand by playing in such small markets like OKC or Memphis.

Too bad the NBA decided to move from Seattle. I guaranteed he would have jumped at the chance to play there.

Re: Rubio probably does not want to be a Grizz or Thunder

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:45 am
by wiff
The kid is a punk. Anyone who wants to pick and choose where they go when it comes to the draft in any league is ass.

I also agree he would have played in Seattle.

Re: Rubio probably does not want to be a Grizz or Thunder

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:54 am
by Clangus
Its Fegan saying this not Rubio. I am worried about this lowering our trade leverage if we get him at 3 though.

Fegan is doing his job....but he is also screwing alot of teams in the process.

I read (from ESPN I think) that we trade down with Washington for Javale McgEE And thier pick for Rubio, But this Fegan BS might make it difficult for that to happen.

It occurs to me that fegan is trying to influence the CLippers? He said tehy WANT LA.

Washington would be ok as far as endorsements are concerned I would say?!

Re: Rubio probably does not want to be a Grizz or Thunder

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:51 pm
by murray
Works out well for us Kings, but that is still messed up. Wouldn't you guys be better off with Harden anyway? 2 bad outside shooting guards (Rubio/Westbrooke) in the starting back court really doesn't work. The Kings and Thunder should really work out a deal. Like harden and 23 for rubio. Harden would be the perfect 2 guard for you guys. Good luck in the playoffs next year with Harden.

Re: Rubio probably does not want to be a Grizz or Thunder

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 5:48 am
by brassviews
Some New News VIA DraftExpress
READ IT ITS WORTH IT
Scott Cacciola of the Memphis Commercial Appeal pens an excellent introductory piece about potential Grizzlies target Ricky Rubio, with quotes from the likes of Tony Barone Sr, Pau Gasol, Fran Fraschilla, Chris Collins, Lang Whitaker and yours truly.

”General manager Chris Wallace and coach Lionel Hollins spent Saturday in Spain to scout Rubio again, a trip clouded by an Internet report that indicated Rubio may not want to sign with Memphis. Jonathan Givony, president and director of scouting for DraftExpress.com, cited an anonymous source last week who said Dan Fegan, Rubio's agent, wants Rubio in Los Angeles, where the Clippers hold the first overall pick.

Whether this is mere posturing on Fegan's part is unclear. But if there are obvious obstacles -- including a reported $6 million buyout from Rubio's contract with DKV Joventut – many scouts and coaches familiar with Rubio think the Grizzlies would be wise to surmount them.

"He is by far the smartest player in the draft," Givony said. "His knowledge of the game, his overall feel –it’s amazing. Wherever he goes, those fans are going to fall in love with him. He's such a fun player to watch, so unpredictable, so creative. To me, it's a no-brainer for a franchise like Memphis."

This weekend we were able to learn quite a bit more about the Rubio situation, after speaking with one of the best possible sources on this matter. Unfortunately this source would rather not be named, for obvious reasons. Regardless, this is information that almost anyone interested in the NBA draft would like to read, though, so we decided to run it.

From what we can gather, Rubio is most certainly going to want to have a large say in the team that drafts him, and if he’s not satisfied with where he lands, he may just decide not to ever come over, which would obviously be a huge embarrassment for the team that picks him. He is in a great situation with his hometown team outside of Barcelona, and it wouldn’t make sense to leave there for anything less than the perfect spot from his standpoint.

“The bottom line here is that Ricky has a large buyout—5.75 million Euros, both for this year and the year after. Depending on the team that selects him, he’s going to make a decision on whether he comes over or not. If he’s not satisfied, there is a very real possibility that he doesn’t come. His buyout is going to cost him a lot of money, and if it doesn’t make sense for him, he won’t do it. He is going to have to pay for the privilege of playing in the NBA”

According to the source, Rubio’s decision is going to come down to two things: winning and the role he’ll play for the team that picks him. The size of the market of the team that drafts him is apparently irrelevant, since his appeal will be on a global scale, reaching far past his team’s city limits.

With that in mind, it appears that the Memphis Grizzlies will have to make a very strong sales pitch to Rubio for him to move off his initial stance of not wanting to play for them. Rubio’s concerns stem from a number of factors, ranging from the potential poor fit of playing alongside a very ball-dominant guard in O.J. Mayo, to the negative experiences conveyed to him by the likes of Juan Carlos Navarro and Pau Gasol.

Oklahoma is a more attractive situation, but there are concerns there about how he fits with Russell Westbrook and whether the two can play together. For now they are not being ruled out.

The question now is how Memphis will respond. Can Chris Wallace and company convince Rubio that his concerns are unfounded? The Grizzlies have not made it a secret that they consider O.J. Mayo to be their point guard of the future, and it may be in their best interest to “maximize the asset” in the words of our source, by trading the pick. This is not going to be a hostile situation, though, so don’t expect any fireworks in the media. Behind the scenes, efforts will be made to steer him the direction of the teams that appear to be most attractive, mainly Sacramento, Dallas, Indiana, Portland and New York, although not all those teams may have the assets or the interest level needed to get a deal done with Memphis. At this stage, Rubio appears unlikely to pull out of the draft.

What’s interesting is that Memphis’ scouting mission to Spain this weekend may not have gone quite as well as planned, as Rubio’s team was beaten handily by Real Madrid in game three of the playoffs, behind a very average showing by the Spanish prodigy. Rubio posted 6 points, 3 assists, 5 turnovers and 3 steals on 2/6 shooting in 26 minutes of action. Both Memphis GM Chris Wallace and head coach Lionel Hollins were in attendance.

Re: Rubio probably does not want to be a Grizz or Thunder

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:48 am
by Clangus
My thought are this
1. Fegan gets nothing if Rubio stays in Europe, so if we called his bluff he be left holing a 2,7 offsuited, and no pants.

2. If Rubio is available we'll take him - we may trade him, but we surely take him if he is on the board.

3. If we pick him now and he stays in europe for 2 more years, we'd still have the draft rights to him, and Presti doesn't mind picking guys for the future. Our core guys are 2-3 years away from being contenders yet anyway.

4. Sacremento would likely trade their asses to get Rubio as would Washington, he'd be great trade bait.

In summary. No matter what, if he is on the board I think the chance of us drafting him are very very high 95-99%