Signing Chris Bosh by next offseason....

[ThunderPoke]

Do the Thunder have a legitimate shot at pulling this off? If so, how would his signing affect the team's salary structure? If the team can string together around 40-45 wins, then I have to believe management would be interested in signing someone of Bosh's caliber for that inside presence that we just don't have now.

As far as Bosh's interest goes, he lives in Dallas and he doesn't seem to be the me-first type of player that has to play in a top 3 media market (or Miami). Playing for a team that's about a 15 minute plane ride from his home has to be appealing to the guy.

Seeing as how our payroll is ridiculously low (and hopefully we can trade Collison for some expiring garbage to make it even lower), then it seems to me we could sustain signing Durant to a max extension and Green at near max while bringing in Bosh at the same time.

[slick_watts]

I don't think there's much chance OKC gets Bosh with all the teams that will have the ability to give him the same kind of contract.

I'm not so sure he'd be the right fit for this team, either. He's not much of an interior scorer, gets most of his point on jumpers, and he's not a great defender either. If the Thunder did pursue him it'd definitely mean Green would be either traded for a center or put on the bench as he would not be in the future plans..

[Yoshi2kx]

Amare >>>>>>>> Bosh

in terms of fit

[lim206]

i dont think we have a chance at bosh because there are other teams that are more appealing and can give him the same contract

[Durantula35]

Bosh would be awesome but theres virtually no chance he signs with OKC over the other 2010 suitors. Higher chance he signs with the Raptors actually, considering their improvement this offseason.

[wiff]

With OKC being a small market, they really need to model themselves like the Spurs.

Give one guy the Max
Durant=Duncan

Give one guy a large but not max contract in the 13mil range.
Westbrook=Parker

Give another guy around 10mil
Green=Manu

Two max contracts simply erases Manu. You sign Bosh to a max contract and either Westbrook or Green simply won't be around plus it cripples the depth on your bench.

Very very very few guys are worth a max contract. Durant will be one of them. The rest of the guy. on the Thunder are going to have to have market friendly contracts.

[wizkid27]

I agree with wiff

Although I hate the Spurs, that is about the best that a smaller market team can aspire to do. The interesting recent development with them is that they sprung for another near-max contract with Jefferson. so now they have 4 10+ mil guys (something I feel like the Thunder have to avoid doing in order to have a complete team).

[wiff]

I agree with wiff

Although I hate the Spurs, that is about the best that a smaller market team can aspire to do. The interesting recent development with them is that they sprung for another near-max contract with Jefferson. so now they have 4 10+ mil guys (something I feel like the Thunder have to avoid doing in order to have a complete team).

The Spurs organization see's their window closing. Duncan is an absolute stud but truly how many more years does the guy have at such a high level? Duncan can play until he's 40 if he just wanted to be a role player, but at his current level of play, father time is right around the corner.

I feel the Spurs blew their wad on one last hurrah by bringing in Jefferson.

[KFlight]

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd then you woke up....

[CarpetMan500]

If Chris signs with a team like the Thunder it will definitely be for the full max, which means the deal will be a sign and trade so that he get the extra year and the higher annual increases.

So having said that, what are you willing to give up that will add up to 17 million in a S&T?

[wiff]

If Chris signs with a team like the Thunder it will definitely be for the full max, which means the deal will be a sign and trade so that he get the extra year and the higher annual increases.

So having said that, what are you willing to give up that will add up to 17 million in a S&T?

I don't think the Thunder are going to be making any deals for Bosh. The Thunder won't want to pay Bosh the full max, honestly Bosh isn't worth a max contract.

Don't get me wrong I'm sure someone out there will pay him the max but to me only a few guys in the league are deserve a max contract.

I know Bosh is better than Jeff Green but at the end of the day I'd rather hang on to Jeff Green and deal with the drop off in talent, production and contract size. Then use the money you save to go after a very solid free agent.

If Bosh signs a max contract he will be getting paid 22mil

You can have Green locked up for 5 years for probably around 10-12mil You're saving 10 -12mil a year by not paying Bosh. You know what kind of an impact player you can sign for 10-12mil in tomorrows economy? A freakin' huge impact player.

So let Bosh financially hang cuff another organization.

[wizkid27]

Although I pretty much agree with wiff, I wanted to add as an aside to CarpetMan:

we wouldn't have to come up with 17 mil to trade to the Raptors in a s+t. Since we would presumably be under the cap by a very significant amount, we would only have to have Bosh's salary minus our cap room outgoing. So if Bosh is at 20 mil in the first year and we have 15 mil of cap space, we'd only HAVE to have 5 mil outgoing. This makes it a lot more possible when you could look at doing something like Jeff Green and a 1st rounder or something like that for Bosh.

[CarpetMan500]

Although I pretty much agree with wiff, I wanted to add as an aside to CarpetMan:

we wouldn't have to come up with 17 mil to trade to the Raptors in a s+t. Since we would presumably be under the cap by a very significant amount, we would only have to have Bosh's salary minus our cap room outgoing. So if Bosh is at 20 mil in the first year and we have 15 mil of cap space, we'd only HAVE to have 5 mil outgoing. This makes it a lot more possible when you could look at doing something like Jeff Green and a 1st rounder or something like that for Bosh.

that's correct. I had not thought of it that way. Suffice to say I don't think it is going to be an issue down the line.

[slick_watts]

If Bosh signs a max contract he will be getting paid 22mil

You can have Green locked up for 5 years for probably around 10-12mil You're saving 10 -12mil a year by not paying Bosh. You know what kind of an impact player you can sign for 10-12mil in tomorrows economy? A freakin' huge impact player.

So let Bosh financially hang cuff another organization.

I might be mistaken here, but my understanding is that the 'max' is 30% of the salary cap for players 7-9 years in the league (Bosh will complete his seventh season next year). That would give Chris Bosh a deal starting in the neighborhood of $16.2 million, that is assuming the cap doesn't go down next year even more in which case it'd obvioulsy start at less money.

Assuming the maximum 10.5% raises, or roughly $1.7 million a year (raises are not compounded) we come to a contract like this:

16.2, 17.9, 19.6, 21.3, 23, 24.7

This is the absolute maximum amount of salary Bosh can sign for this offseason. The deal would be much less if he chooses to sign with another team, since other teams can only offer 8% annual raises and a maximum of five years.

[wiff]

If Bosh signs a max contract he will be getting paid 22mil

You can have Green locked up for 5 years for probably around 10-12mil You're saving 10 -12mil a year by not paying Bosh. You know what kind of an impact player you can sign for 10-12mil in tomorrows economy? A freakin' huge impact player.

So let Bosh financially hang cuff another organization.

I might be mistaken here, but my understanding is that the 'max' is 30% of the salary cap for players 7-9 years in the league (Bosh will complete his seventh season next year). That would give Chris Bosh a deal starting in the neighborhood of $16.2 million, that is assuming the cap doesn't go down next year even more in which case it'd obvioulsy start at less money.

Assuming the maximum 10.5% raises, or roughly $1.7 million a year (raises are not compounded) we come to a contract like this:

16.2, 17.9, 19.6, 21.3, 23, 24.7

This is the absolute maximum amount of salary Bosh can sign for this offseason. The deal would be much less if he chooses to sign with another team, since other teams can only offer 8% annual raises and a maximum of five years.

My mistake it averages out to 20.45mil a year for 6 years not 22mil. But my point was that at some point during his contract he is making 22mil or more.

I might pay Bosh the 16.2 mil but the rest of his contract would be undeserving.

Still I'd rather have Green locked in between the 10-12mil range (assuming he keeps improving) and deal with the drop off in production than have to pay Bosh 20.45mil. I'd much rather use that 8-10 mil to go after another solid contributor.

[slick_watts]

I think Chris Bosh is certainly a 'max' player and will get his $$$ either from Toronto or another team, but I agree that he isn't the right kind of player for OKC if they are going to give out a big contract and isn't enough of an improvement over Jeff Green to justify that money.

It's too bad none of these guys are the right fit. Bosh / Boozer / Stoudemire.. of the three I'd probably prefer Boozer the most, his post game would complement Durant's offense better than any of the other guys IMO.

[HomieOmey]

It is a lot of money. I mean even at $6-7 mill you guys wanted no part of David Lee, and Bosh would cost triple that for mildly better defense and more dependable offense. I don't see Bosh choosing the Thunder, but I could easily see him being convinced if traded here before the deadline. I think playing with Durant and Harden would be a pretty big eye opener.

I too think Amar'e is a better fit. I would probably take a harder look at Horford. Even if it costs a lottery pick, it could be worth it. Horford + Amar'e would be sweet!!

[dre_1614]

just throwing this out there.....Dwayne Wade
He is a Presti player, unselfish, great person, good in the community, humble, hard worker, great offensively, good defensively.

[HomieOmey]

just throwing this out there.....Dwayne Wade
He is a Presti player, unselfish, great person, good in the community, humble, hard worker, great offensively, good defensively.

If you could convince Bosh to come first, I guess a Bosh and Durant pairing would look very attractive to Wade. As long as he was convinced he could still be "the man" with the Thunder, he would probably consider them, but I highly doubt it. Just doesn't seem possible. Miami will REALLY have to drop the ball for him to leave.

[yayotube]

i dont know why you guys would want bosh... don't you already have Jeff Green at the 4? or would you move one of Green or Bosh to the 5?