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Post#181 » by Pelon chingon » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:28 pm

gmoney411 wrote:
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Pointgod wrote:I don’t know how you idiots bring Lebron into this but Michael Jeffrey Jordan literally quit in his prime and he’s still the GOAT. Stop turning this into some pity party for men or some bull. Lots of male athletes have retired early or quit playing while they still had a lot to give and they don’t get criticized. Just because they aren’t open about it being a mental health issue doesn’t mean it wasn’t a factor.

Jordan never quit during the NBA Finals, which is the equivalent of what Biles did.
Jordan never quit in the middle of any event.
You'd have to be a next-level Jordan-hater to draw a comparison between him and Biles, when he's the most reliable player of all-time on the biggest stage....


Jordan definitely quit in the middle of competition. I've seen him get hurt and leave the court and not come back.

I look forward to your response about how physical injuries are different and Simone should have just kept toughing it out to the detriment of her team.


The mindset our country has fallen into is terrifying. She should be getting the Ben Simmons treatment X10000.
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Post#182 » by art_tatum » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:30 pm

She shouldnt be villianized but she shouldnt be painted as some hero fighting for mental health lol. She just had the yips and chickened out. I dont need to see mental gymnastics saying she won by not competing lol. Theres a middle ground. Its funny bc its the left(im a liberal) that is pushing the narrative but it mirrors patriotic propaganda.
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Post#183 » by art_tatum » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:31 pm

She shouldnt be villianized but she shouldnt be painted as some hero fighting for mental health lol. She just had the yips and chickened out. I dont need to see mental gymnastics saying she won by not competing lol. Theres a middle ground. Its funny bc its the left(im a liberal) that is pushing the narrative but it mirrors patriotic propaganda.

Then the right who eats up that crap hates on her bc shes a lib darling and a black woman.
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Post#184 » by threethehardway » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:32 pm

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The mindset our country has fallen into is terrifying. She should be getting the Ben Simmons treatment X10000.


A woman who was sexually assaulted while training to be gymnast, becomes one of the GOATs at her sport, should be treated like Ben Simmons.

LMAO.
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Post#185 » by Colbinii » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:33 pm

Pelon chingon wrote:
gmoney411 wrote:
K3nny Pow3rs wrote:Jordan never quit during the NBA Finals, which is the equivalent of what Biles did.
Jordan never quit in the middle of any event.
You'd have to be a next-level Jordan-hater to draw a comparison between him and Biles, when he's the most reliable player of all-time on the biggest stage....


Jordan definitely quit in the middle of competition. I've seen him get hurt and leave the court and not come back.

I look forward to your response about how physical injuries are different and Simone should have just kept toughing it out to the detriment of her team.


The mindset our country has fallen into is terrifying. She should be getting the Ben Simmons treatment X10000.


I see the contraception failed to work in this case.
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Re: OT - Simone Biles 

Post#186 » by gmoney411 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:33 pm

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gmoney411 wrote:
K3nny Pow3rs wrote:Jordan never quit during the NBA Finals, which is the equivalent of what Biles did.
Jordan never quit in the middle of any event.
You'd have to be a next-level Jordan-hater to draw a comparison between him and Biles, when he's the most reliable player of all-time on the biggest stage....


Jordan definitely quit in the middle of competition. I've seen him get hurt and leave the court and not come back.

I look forward to your response about how physical injuries are different and Simone should have just kept toughing it out to the detriment of her team.


The mindset our country has fallen into is terrifying. She should be getting the Ben Simmons treatment X10000.


Ben Simmons hasn't achieved what she's achieved and allegedly doesn't work on his game the same way she does. Simone won gold with broken bones in both feet and again with a kidney stone. She's proven she can battle through pain and adversity. She's the only victim of Nassar that made it back to the games. Just admit you have no idea how debilitating mental injuries can be and don't care to understand it.
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Post#187 » by Ridicululz » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:34 pm

It's sad because she's going to get a lot of hate for her decision which definitely will not help with her mental health.
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Post#188 » by Pointgod » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:35 pm

K3nny Pow3rs wrote:
Pointgod wrote:I don’t know how you idiots bring Lebron into this but Michael Jeffrey Jordan literally quit in his prime and he’s still the GOAT. Stop turning this into some pity party for men or some bull. Lots of male athletes have retired early or quit playing while they still had a lot to give and they don’t get criticized. Just because they aren’t open about it being a mental health issue doesn’t mean it wasn’t a factor.

Jordan never quit during the NBA Finals, which is the equivalent of what Biles did.
Jordan never quit in the middle of any event.
You'd have to be a next-level Jordan-hater to draw a comparison between him and Biles, when he's the most reliable player of all-time on the biggest stage....


Jordan quit period. There’s really no sugar coating that he walked away from the game in his prime literally after just winning a championship and that’s fine, he rightly wasn’t criticized for it. Olympics are every 4 years, Jordan could have competed for another championship the following year. Simone Biles could have quit before the Olympics and she’d still be getting criticized. People just want a reason to hate on Simon Biles. I mean posters in this thread are literally attacking a sexual assault victim in a sport where it’s been clearly explained that not being in the right mind set will lead to serious injury.
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Post#189 » by sikma42 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:36 pm

Pointgod wrote:
K3nny Pow3rs wrote:
Pointgod wrote:I don’t know how you idiots bring Lebron into this but Michael Jeffrey Jordan literally quit in his prime and he’s still the GOAT. Stop turning this into some pity party for men or some bull. Lots of male athletes have retired early or quit playing while they still had a lot to give and they don’t get criticized. Just because they aren’t open about it being a mental health issue doesn’t mean it wasn’t a factor.

Jordan never quit during the NBA Finals, which is the equivalent of what Biles did.
Jordan never quit in the middle of any event.
You'd have to be a next-level Jordan-hater to draw a comparison between him and Biles, when he's the most reliable player of all-time on the biggest stage....


Jordan quit period. There’s really no sugar coating that he walked away from the game in his prime literally after just winning a championship and that’s fine, he rightly wasn’t criticized for it. Olympics are every 4 years, Jordan could have competed for another championship the following year. Simone Biles could have quit before the Olympics and she’d still be getting criticized. People just want a reason to hate on Simon Biles. I mean posters in this thread are literally attacking a sexual assault victim in a sport where it’s been clearly explained that not being in the right mind set will lead to serious injury.


She wouldnt have been criticized for skipping these Olympics. She is 24 and nobody would have cared if she moved on with her life.
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Post#190 » by gmoney411 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:37 pm

art_tatum wrote:She shouldnt be villianized but she shouldnt be painted as some hero fighting for mental health lol. She just had the yips and chickened out. I dont need to see mental gymnastics saying she won by not competing lol. Theres a middle ground. Its funny bc its the left(im a liberal) that is pushing the narrative but it mirrors patriotic propaganda.


Why is knowing your limits chickening out? Is it chickening out if you break an ankle and decide to sit out and recover instead of limping around and causing your team to lose. People act like she didn't actually go out and try to compete. She did and she couldn't compete at a high level so she stepped aside and let her teammates win silver.
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Post#191 » by JayMKE » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:38 pm

It is what it is, she is a very hyped and marketed athlete even being a self proclaimed GOAT and she could not deal with the expectations. Calling her brave or a hero seems both gendered and futile attempt at retaining a brand when anybody else would be called a choker and raked over coals for it. Oh well, on to the next Olympic athlete for Nike to market. Biles is quite accomplished and didn’t need to go Tokyo to have a legacy, I think she’ll land on her feet and not too worried about her. I don’t have a lot of sympathy for this trend of superstar athletes who fail to meet expectations then claim mental health problems to deflect criticism, that’s kind of like a celebrity who complains about not being able to go out in public or supermodel complaining they’re not taken seriously because of their looks.
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Post#192 » by Pointgod » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:39 pm

sikma42 wrote:
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K3nny Pow3rs wrote:Jordan never quit during the NBA Finals, which is the equivalent of what Biles did.
Jordan never quit in the middle of any event.
You'd have to be a next-level Jordan-hater to draw a comparison between him and Biles, when he's the most reliable player of all-time on the biggest stage....


Jordan quit period. There’s really no sugar coating that he walked away from the game in his prime literally after just winning a championship and that’s fine, he rightly wasn’t criticized for it. Olympics are every 4 years, Jordan could have competed for another championship the following year. Simone Biles could have quit before the Olympics and she’d still be getting criticized. People just want a reason to hate on Simon Biles. I mean posters in this thread are literally attacking a sexual assault victim in a sport where it’s been clearly explained that not being in the right mind set will lead to serious injury.


She wouldnt have been criticized for skipping these Olympics. She is 24 and nobody would have cared if she moved on with her life.


If she withdrew right before the Olympics she’d be getting **** on like she is right now. America is filled with a bunch of sociopaths who probably have mental issues themselves who can’t for one second put themselves in someone else’s shoes. Just look at the comments in here
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Post#193 » by KembaWalker » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:40 pm

Pointgod wrote:
K3nny Pow3rs wrote:
Pointgod wrote:I don’t know how you idiots bring Lebron into this but Michael Jeffrey Jordan literally quit in his prime and he’s still the GOAT. Stop turning this into some pity party for men or some bull. Lots of male athletes have retired early or quit playing while they still had a lot to give and they don’t get criticized. Just because they aren’t open about it being a mental health issue doesn’t mean it wasn’t a factor.

Jordan never quit during the NBA Finals, which is the equivalent of what Biles did.
Jordan never quit in the middle of any event.
You'd have to be a next-level Jordan-hater to draw a comparison between him and Biles, when he's the most reliable player of all-time on the biggest stage....


Jordan quit period. There’s really no sugar coating that he walked away from the game in his prime literally after just winning a championship and that’s fine, he rightly wasn’t criticized for it. Olympics are every 4 years, Jordan could have competed for another championship the following year. Simone Biles could have quit before the Olympics and she’d still be getting criticized. People just want a reason to hate on Simon Biles. I mean posters in this thread are literally attacking a sexual assault victim in a sport where it’s been clearly explained that not being in the right mind set will lead to serious injury.


theres a big difference between retiring after winning a championship and quitting in the middle of the championship after you made a mistake and won't win

more similar to LeBron phoning it in in the playoffs this year but at least he had the dignity to come outta the locker room at half time and be present during his loss
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Post#194 » by EArl » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:41 pm

K For Three wrote:I have mixed feelings on it all.

On one hand I understand it, it's tough to compete under that pressure and she wasn't at her best. And her mental health is what matters most.

On the other hand, it hurts to see them win silver when they should have been bringing home the gold. And Russia of all countries wins the gold.

Yeah I was conflicted about this as well. My biggest gripe with this is that as an athlete you train for this stuff including the mental health aspect part. If there was some concern for her not competing, then they should have chosen a different Athlete to be part of the team.
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Post#195 » by art_tatum » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:41 pm

gmoney411 wrote:
art_tatum wrote:She shouldnt be villianized but she shouldnt be painted as some hero fighting for mental health lol. She just had the yips and chickened out. I dont need to see mental gymnastics saying she won by not competing lol. Theres a middle ground. Its funny bc its the left(im a liberal) that is pushing the narrative but it mirrors patriotic propaganda.


Why is knowing your limits chickening out? Is it chickening out if you break an ankle and decide to sit out and recover instead of limping around and causing your team to lose. People act like she didn't actually go out and try to compete. She did and she couldn't compete at a high level so she stepped aside and let her teammates win silver.


Shes done those moves thousands of times. They fall all the time and get back up to complete their routine. She didnt even fall.
She got the yips.
Yes there have been people that still competed for their country with a broken leg.
Even this olympics the russian mens had a guy who couldnt stand a week ago due to achilles surgery. he competed and the ROC mens won team gold.
Simone doesnt have a physical injury. Its mental but its not even a preexisting serious condition. Its the yips. Athletes get that all the time. She has every right to bail, but dont be calling her a hero lol.
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Post#196 » by J_T » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:42 pm

That's why women sport is where it is. Nobody would watch or pay for women sport, if they weren't leeching off their male counterparts. Prime example tennis grand slams. They get same prize money, but if they organized them on their own they couldn't get 10% of that. And so athletes like Naomi Osaka become spoiled and delicate. WNBA without NBA sponsoring would go bankrupt next month. Let's not even go to the US Soccer teams... If I were running US Soccer, I would tell women: "Here's your half, now leave us alone. Good luck earning those big bucks on your own."

Simone Biles. She caused all this to herself. She is the only one to be blamed so why should she be a hero now? She was the one who wanted to win 78 gold medals, instead of being realistic and humble and just say "I'll try my best and we will see how many gold medals that will be good for."
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Post#197 » by a8bil » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:42 pm

lobosloboslobos wrote:i am honestly sickened by the ignorance, meanness and stupidity of a lot of the comments in this thread. what a bunch of schmucks a lot of you are.

Simone Biles has been one of the most dominant, determined and daring athletes in the world for almost 10 years. Along the way she has endured endless abuse – physical, sexual and reputational – while bringing home to the USA more world championships than any gymnast in history. She has been let down by her sport and by her coaches again and again, she has fought for her teammates with great dignity and courage in court, and throughout she has been an exceptional role model for people of all kinds, but especially young women, athletes, and Black women. She has done all this as an amateur athlete, and as someone doing death-defying tricks every day that literally nobody else in the world can do and that could easily lead to serious injury and even death if she screws them up.

But many of you guys are going to sit back back and crap on her and doubt her and question her toughness because she has the extreme good sense to realize that if she is not 100% physically and mentally that she should not be risking her life. gtfo

Does stepping back mean she is weak? are you kidding? how hard do you think she has had to push herself in past years, overcoming physical and mental and emotional pressure and anxiety of the absolute hugest kind, in order to win? don't you realize how much she has stepped up in the past, how developed her sense of her own capacities are, and how much she wants to win? You don't get to be GOAT by being a punk ffs. You think she would have stepped back if she felt she had any other choice?

I just can't believe how many of you guys sit back and look down on her. it's sad. talk about privilege, holy crap.
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Post#198 » by gmoney411 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:43 pm

KembaWalker wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
K3nny Pow3rs wrote:Jordan never quit during the NBA Finals, which is the equivalent of what Biles did.
Jordan never quit in the middle of any event.
You'd have to be a next-level Jordan-hater to draw a comparison between him and Biles, when he's the most reliable player of all-time on the biggest stage....


Jordan quit period. There’s really no sugar coating that he walked away from the game in his prime literally after just winning a championship and that’s fine, he rightly wasn’t criticized for it. Olympics are every 4 years, Jordan could have competed for another championship the following year. Simone Biles could have quit before the Olympics and she’d still be getting criticized. People just want a reason to hate on Simon Biles. I mean posters in this thread are literally attacking a sexual assault victim in a sport where it’s been clearly explained that not being in the right mind set will lead to serious injury.


theres a big difference between retiring after winning a championship and quitting in the middle of the championship after you made a mistake and won't win

more similar to LeBron phoning it in in the playoffs this year but at least he had the dignity to come outta the locker room at half time and be present during his loss


Is it a mistake if you break your ankle, fall, and turn the ball over? Should you then just forget that mistake and keep playing?
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Post#199 » by KembaWalker » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:45 pm

gmoney411 wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Jordan quit period. There’s really no sugar coating that he walked away from the game in his prime literally after just winning a championship and that’s fine, he rightly wasn’t criticized for it. Olympics are every 4 years, Jordan could have competed for another championship the following year. Simone Biles could have quit before the Olympics and she’d still be getting criticized. People just want a reason to hate on Simon Biles. I mean posters in this thread are literally attacking a sexual assault victim in a sport where it’s been clearly explained that not being in the right mind set will lead to serious injury.


theres a big difference between retiring after winning a championship and quitting in the middle of the championship after you made a mistake and won't win

more similar to LeBron phoning it in in the playoffs this year but at least he had the dignity to come outta the locker room at half time and be present during his loss


Is it a mistake if you break your ankle, fall, and turn the ball over? Should you then just forget that mistake and keep playing?


i dont get what a hypothetical broken ankle has to do with anything? if LeBron or whoever decides they dont wanna play the second half of game 7 of the finals cause his team is down 20 and he doesnt wanna break his ankle goin in to next year would anyone in the world respect that?
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Post#200 » by gmoney411 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:45 pm

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art_tatum wrote:She shouldnt be villianized but she shouldnt be painted as some hero fighting for mental health lol. She just had the yips and chickened out. I dont need to see mental gymnastics saying she won by not competing lol. Theres a middle ground. Its funny bc its the left(im a liberal) that is pushing the narrative but it mirrors patriotic propaganda.


Why is knowing your limits chickening out? Is it chickening out if you break an ankle and decide to sit out and recover instead of limping around and causing your team to lose. People act like she didn't actually go out and try to compete. She did and she couldn't compete at a high level so she stepped aside and let her teammates win silver.


Shes done those moves thousands of times. They fall all the time and get back up to complete their routine. She didnt even fall.
She got the yips.
Yes there have been people that still competed for their country with a broken leg.
Even this olympics the russian mens had a guy who couldnt stand a week ago due to achilles surgery. he competed and the ROC mens won team gold.
Simone doesnt have a physical injury. Its mental but its not even a preexisting serious condition. Its the yips. Athletes get that all the time. She has every right to bail, but dont be calling her a hero lol.


And when they get the yips they end up costing their teams. Why should she keep competing and doing that? I don't understand the logic here. She's a hero because she made the choice she mad knowing people would call her a chicken. She made the move that was best for the team and her knowing she would get trashed for it. That's hard to do.

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