Tokyo Olympic Basketball Tournament Discussion

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Post#4141 » by falcolombardi » Sun Aug 8, 2021 3:07 am

makubesu wrote:I can’t help but think that if the US women’s team had the same media scrutiny as the men’s, this board would be in a panic over them only being up 11 at the half to Japan


nearly any other team in any other sport wouldnt stand to the scrutiny level of usa men basketball team, which us basically expected to never lose and akways win big

one of the few that meet and even beat that Standard is, precisely, usa women basketball team...so yeah, they would be panicking right now at only having a small ish lead vs a big underdog
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Post#4142 » by Sedale Threatt » Sun Aug 8, 2021 3:18 am

makubesu wrote:I can’t help but think that if the US women’s team had the same media scrutiny as the men’s, this board would be in a panic over them only being up 11 at the half to Japan


It's kind of illustrative. Just watching the game you can tell Japan isn't even in their league. But they're smart and well organized, and they've managed to stay in striking distance (so far). So while the women are definitely going to pummel people, just like the men will as well, it's not going to be an every-game thing.
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Post#4143 » by kcbworth » Sun Aug 8, 2021 3:20 am

Btw to any Slovenians on here... Aussie here. Slovenia is my fav country to visit in Europe. Amazing place for border to border. Vintage Gorge is up there with the best walks I've ever done. Congrats on a great tournent.
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Post#4144 » by TheRealKaboom » Sun Aug 8, 2021 3:24 am

This is unwatchable. My goodness.
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Post#4145 » by Jasen777 » Sun Aug 8, 2021 3:31 am

makubesu wrote:I can’t help but think that if the US women’s team had the same media scrutiny as the men’s, this board would be in a panic over them only being up 11 at the half to Japan


They are sleepwalking through a scrimmage against a team that isn't remotely on their level.

Credit to Japan, it's amazing they made the final and they're competing hard.
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Post#4146 » by nextlife » Sun Aug 8, 2021 4:28 am

Just went down the rabbit hole, didn't know Sue Bird was gay...then I found out Diana Taurasi was gay, then Brittney Griner, then Breanna Stewart...then read an article that 98% of WNBA was gay...had no idea...just interesting to me
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Post#4147 » by kcbworth » Sun Aug 8, 2021 5:06 am

nextlife wrote:Just went down the rabbit hole, didn't know Sue Bird was gay...then I found out Diana Taurasi was gay, then Brittney Griner, then Breanna Stewart...then read an article that 98% of WNBA was gay...had no idea...just interesting to me


Most women's team sports is. Soccer especially
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Post#4148 » by QPR » Sun Aug 8, 2021 7:42 am

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EmperorLocky wrote:Watching Andrew Gaze right now becoming emotional and proud is making me emotional. I think this has become my most favourite medal ever. Decades of hard work to finally make it. Such a great team culture built in the Boomers team.


There's something special about Goorjian teams - he cultivates such an unselfish culture where everyone buys in and everyone plays hard at both ends.

I think that’s been the boomers style for a while now


It has but it's also been a hallmark of his NBL teams throughout his 30 years as a coach here.
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Post#4150 » by AussieCeltic » Sun Aug 8, 2021 10:46 am

kcbworth wrote:Btw to any Slovenians on here... Aussie here. Slovenia is my fav country to visit in Europe. Amazing place for border to border. Vintage Gorge is up there with the best walks I've ever done. Congrats on a great tournent.


I’ve been to Croatia, Italy and Austria which all border Slovenia but not Slovenia. I wish I went when I lived in Europe. Hopefully when COVID I’ll head over there.
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Post#4151 » by zike_42 » Sun Aug 8, 2021 11:27 am

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Post#4152 » by DWadeno3 » Sun Aug 8, 2021 12:21 pm

It‘s good we turned things around and win the gold medal. Lots of respect to France, Australia, Slovenia and all the other teams, the level of basketball being played was good.
Nonetheless we should have gold expectations every time based on our talent pool and should consider bringing a little more consistency to our national team. I doubt that’ll ever happen though.
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Post#4153 » by tugs » Sun Aug 8, 2021 1:21 pm

It was a competitive tournament. If I were to nitpick though, it was Luka taking his superstar tantrums to the games. He'll eventually be more mature, and that's when we'll see his real game
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Post#4154 » by LastNameEver » Sun Aug 8, 2021 1:32 pm

Another year of KD only winning with other star players. /s
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Post#4155 » by Mirotic12 » Sun Aug 8, 2021 1:38 pm

michaelm wrote:He chose to play instead of having an off season unlike anyone else of his arguably top 5 (definitely top 10) stature in the NBA except for Durant, and for the country of his birth which has a population of 2 million which afaik has never sniffed being competitive internationally previously, and his team lost by one point to the eventual silver medalists who beat the USA in the preliminary rounds and challenged them in the gold medal game. He deserves praise not blame, he carried that team. Sure he could get fitter, but even if he was fitter he could be excused for being tired and discouraged by the time he got to the bronze medal game having targeted the gold, while winning the bronze was regarded as an epic achievement by the Australian team and their fans and one to which they gave their utmost energy. And perhaps the guy who is one of his few peers deserves some credit for deciding to play for the USA despite his injury history, other achievements and wealth.


That's incorrect actually. Slovenia won the 2017 EuroBasket, and for many years they were one of the best European teams. In fact, in the mid 2000s to early 2010s, they clearly had a deeper, more talented, and better team than they do now. They are actually at one of their low points talent-wise. Having almost nothing other than Luka. Which is why they have had to naturalize Anthony Randolph in 2017 and Mike Tobey in 2021. They used to be very competitive without having to naturalize players.
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Post#4156 » by Mirotic12 » Sun Aug 8, 2021 1:42 pm

Johnny Tomala wrote:http://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/men/2020/news/kevin-durant-wins-the-mvp-award-of-the-men-s-olympic-basketball-tournament-in-tokyo

Kevin Durant MVP. Well deserved.


zike_42 wrote:All-star 5
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FIBA is trying to emulate NBA too much. There is actually no MVP award or all-star five for the Olympics in all of its history. Now all of a sudden FIBA is creating something to emulate NBA. That's getting pretty weak that they have to make up awards that didn't even exist, just to seem more like the NBA.

I mean after what like 18 Olympics, now all of a sudden they create all-star five and MVP awards? Silly.
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Post#4157 » by Jasen777 » Sun Aug 8, 2021 5:45 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:
Johnny Tomala wrote:http://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/men/2020/news/kevin-durant-wins-the-mvp-award-of-the-men-s-olympic-basketball-tournament-in-tokyo

Kevin Durant MVP. Well deserved.


zike_42 wrote:All-star 5
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Doncic


FIBA is trying to emulate NBA too much. There is actually no MVP award or all-star five for the Olympics in all of its history. Now all of a sudden FIBA is creating something to emulate NBA. That's getting pretty weak that they have to make up awards that didn't even exist, just to seem more like the NBA.

I mean after what like 18 Olympics, now all of a sudden they create all-star five and MVP awards? Silly.


And the top 5 are all NBA players. Hmmm, it's like the NBA has far and away the best players.
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Post#4158 » by GSP » Sun Aug 8, 2021 7:32 pm

zike_42 wrote:All-star 5
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2 Nets players SMH Dursuperteam
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Post#4159 » by zike_42 » Sun Aug 8, 2021 10:29 pm

Jasen777 wrote:
Mirotic12 wrote:
Johnny Tomala wrote:http://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/men/2020/news/kevin-durant-wins-the-mvp-award-of-the-men-s-olympic-basketball-tournament-in-tokyo

Kevin Durant MVP. Well deserved.


zike_42 wrote:All-star 5
Durant
Rubio
Mills
Gobert
Doncic


FIBA is trying to emulate NBA too much. There is actually no MVP award or all-star five for the Olympics in all of its history. Now all of a sudden FIBA is creating something to emulate NBA. That's getting pretty weak that they have to make up awards that didn't even exist, just to seem more like the NBA.

I mean after what like 18 Olympics, now all of a sudden they create all-star five and MVP awards? Silly.


And the top 5 are all NBA players. Hmmm, it's like the NBA has far and away the best players.


Well yeah, the NBA is far and away the best league in the world so would attract the best players.
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Post#4160 » by J_T » Sun Aug 8, 2021 10:30 pm

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J_T wrote:It's so funny how around the board so often somebody will say "there are no Luka haters". This thread here is a prime example of irrational immature hate that some people have towards Luka. Yeah, they try to hide it by adding something nice about him. They try to hide by suggesting what could he be doing "better" - which of course would drive them even crazier, they are losing their minds if Luka is successful.

I think the time has come. We all know that a player can't really be the best player in the league, until he has an army of irrational hate spewers ejaculating their pathetic half trolling half mindless nervous breakdowns all across their keyboards, resulting in what apparently counts as a "post" on an internet forum. Yes, Luka has finally joined the greatest players in the league. The guns are out, the crazies are after him.

I think for 22 you couldn’t ask for more. Dude got a country thats never been to the Olympics down to the final seconds against a mainstay in France. Luka is ahead of schedule - anyone’s schedule. But like most 22 year olds he has some things to work on.

Yes...

1. His skin is too ... pale. Or as one of the posters around here said: "I hate his red cheeks." He needs to take care of that.

2. He is forcing shots at the end of the game instead of involving his teammates...

3. ... except when he isn't - then he is "afraid to take responsibility" for the last shot.

4. He is "chucking" too many shots ...

5. ... except when he isn't and has 30+ (potential) assists. Then he is "overrated", and had been "stopped". He had been "exposed" and from now on every team will know that triple teaming him is the way to go.

6. He is being blamed for being "too ball dominant", whatever that means for a PG. And no, it doesn't matter that it's clear that if he was any less ball dominant with the same roster, Mavs would have had less success. Not even some of the Mavs fans seem to understand that. Usually stat like usage rate is being thrown around, with posters clearly not understanding what the stat counts (for example it counts turnovers, but it doesn't count assists, which makes this stat completely useless for making a case that "he doesn't involve his teammates enough"). Doesn't matter that players like LBJ and Kobe have also reached 38%, at least in playoffs. Well, Kobe had 38.7% in regular season once, which is 2.7% higher than Doncic's 20/21 USG%.

7. His main problem, however, is that he is not willing to roll over and be worse than (insert poster's favorite player's name here). It's a cardinal sin and worth all the non-sense being written around here. And if he did do that... well, he'd just been another soft Euro.

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zike_42 wrote:All-star 5
Durant
Rubio
Mills
Gobert
Doncic


FIBA is trying to emulate NBA too much. There is actually no MVP award or all-star five for the Olympics in all of its history. Now all of a sudden FIBA is creating something to emulate NBA. That's getting pretty weak that they have to make up awards that didn't even exist, just to seem more like the NBA.

Yeah, it's not like FIBA has been organizing European Championship since 1935 and has been naming the MVP since ... oh look - 1935. Top expert.

This was time when politicians were making the rules, or at least attempted to. There was zero chance that Hitler would allow any "MVP" awards at his 1936 Berlin Olympics, especially after his ban of all players taller than 6'1" was overruled. Yes, he really did ban all players taller than 6'1", I guess that's why they lost all the games.

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