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Re: Semi-Keeper League 

Post#181 » by Curtis Lemansky » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:32 pm

My_Lo wrote:Okay, let's let the N00b (me) explain what I'm looking for. The options at small forward who will contribute in every statistical category on a higher than average basis were Batum, Hayward, Leonard, and a few others. Hayward is going to be getting bumped up to at least 36 minutes a game (probably more considering he has no true backup) and during the month he had that many minutes last year he averaged:

19 ppg, 4 rpb, 3.5 apg, 1 spg, 1 bpg all while shooting above 40% from 3. That was with Big Al Jefferson taking touches away from Hayward. He did that all on 12 shots a game. So go ahead. Mock away. But I got one of the best small forwards who actually contributes to a ton of categories like Paul George, LeBron James, and Kevin Durant. He also will be statistically better than Batum and Leonard.

Sorry, y'all. Math is hard sometimes.


Even if your projection is true, the argument here is that you could have gotten him at least 20 spots or so later. Nobody would have drafted him until 35-40 at earliest so why not trade down / acquire a more highly ranked player and then pick Hayward with one of your later picks.

In the non-keeper FFL league, 11 of 14 managers from here are present and yet Hayward lasted until 72. Even with keeper league feature adding 20-25 spots to his value, that still makes him barely a top-50 pick, quite a distance from 15th pick.

Also him shooting 40% from 3 doesnt have any affect on here, 3pt% is not a scoring category. Furthermore Hayward got nearly 33,5 mpg after all-star break and he posted something along the lines of 15/4/4/1/0.5 bpg. Jefferson (and the other prominent Jazz frontcourt player's) departure could definitely help with the scoring but it could possibly come at the expense of efficiency (lower fg%, which wasnt very high to begin with and more turnovers as he will be asked to create more opportunities for himself).

Regardless of how you project him to, the fact that you spent a highly valuable 15th pick to pick a player whom you could most probably get with your next pick at 43 makes it a bad pick IMO. You could have moved down at least 15 spots, got huge gains with your later picks and still gotten the player you wanted.
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Re: Semi-Keeper League 

Post#182 » by bww78 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:34 pm

Guys, I'm still working on a process here, but we need to address the blatant tanking issue.

If you are deemed to be openly tanking, there will have to be a punishment of some kind. I think Sly used to threaten expulsion from the FFDL.

Not setting your lineups, things like that, really can't be allowed, right?

Plus, there will be a lottery for those teams that don't make the playoffs to determine draft order anyway.
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Re: Semi-Keeper League 

Post#183 » by My_Lo » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:35 pm

I know what this is about. It's because he plays starcraft. I knew it. He's a Protoss player. You're a zerg. I get it.
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Post#184 » by CFan21 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:51 pm

Can't imagine it's worth tanking for a couple extra balls.
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Re: Semi-Keeper League 

Post#185 » by sabonis » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:05 pm

can someone update the draft list please
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Re: Semi-Keeper League 

Post#186 » by My_Lo » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:07 pm

NOOOOOOoooooooooooooo ... I wanted Valiancunas so much bad. Not a reach in my opinion.
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Re: Semi-Keeper League 

Post#187 » by My_Lo » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:30 pm

#43 no longer is available for trade.
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Re: Semi-Keeper League 

Post#188 » by 3Si » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:23 pm

Jonas is definitely not a reach, I have him on my list too
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Post#189 » by CFan21 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:45 pm

OldNo7 is having a nice little draft.
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Post#190 » by OldNo7 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:48 pm

Thanks I am in 2 dynasty leagues so this is my first draft in a few years.
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Post#191 » by My_Lo » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:04 am

Also thanks for nothing for selecting Brook Lopez and Joakim Noah. Those forced me into looking like a complete homer. These were the last guys on the board capable of going nuts in the double double area and I think they are the only two capable of being elite big men in this area. I seriously feel like the Indiana Pacers when they paid Roy Hibbert because he was above 7 feet tall.
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Post#192 » by My_Lo » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:04 am

I swear I'm not a homer.
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Re: Semi-Keeper League 

Post#193 » by 3Si » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:09 am

You better reach for a homer PG next like I did in FFL
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Post#194 » by My_Lo » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:20 am

You know what they say.

Everybody knows that you never go full homer.
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Post#195 » by CFan21 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:13 am

This guy My_Lo is great.
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Re: Semi-Keeper League 

Post#196 » by fraanciiscoo » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:00 am

writersblock wrote:I agree with CFan and OldNo7 here...let's not rush to conclusions about things here. The "new guy" is an avid NBA fanatic, manages a FANZZ store, gets press passes for the NBA combine in Chicago every summer, blogs for SLCDunk, and has been playing fantasy for 2 decades, I doubt his interest will be waning. He doesn't post here because he has a 50 hour week job, that doesn't mean he's going to be inactive in the league, he's just choosing not to waste his time arguing on these boards (something I should do less of). I know the guy personally and can vouch for him...even if he is an avid JAzz fan.

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Re: Semi-Keeper League 

Post#197 » by fraanciiscoo » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:06 am

My_Lo wrote:NOOOOOOoooooooooooooo ... I wanted Valiancunas so much bad. Not a reach in my opinion.


i masturbating right now
got him at #43 in FLL weeeeeeeeee
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Post#198 » by fraanciiscoo » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:06 am

i mean mental masturbation ok
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Re: Semi-Keeper League 

Post#199 » by sabonis » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:16 am

Sent an email to 3si before I went to bed but I guess he slept before I did. Going back and forth between 2 guys, if anybody would like to help via email, I'd appreciate it. If not, will be picking in 20 minutes

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Re: Semi-Keeper League 

Post#200 » by My_Lo » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:52 am

Wade isn't the worst way you could have gone there. For me, his age and nagging injuries are making him a liability.

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