FFL 2016 - 2017 - Discussion Thread

theman · Post #221 » by **theman** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:34 pm

Woody Allen wrote:
floppymoose wrote:wait, wut?

I don't understand it either. WB too did this type of trades with Fran.

What is not to understand?

I moved back five to move up five. yes. I should have got a little more but he wouldn't include 142 for 144. But, the trade gives me 182,183, 184 and 217, 218, 219 and I am done. Meaning I don't have to check in as often and I don't have to make hard decisions. Unless I have a 5 person list when my three picks come up.

fraanciiscoo · Post #222 » by **fraanciiscoo** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:43 pm

theman wrote:
Woody Allen wrote:
floppymoose wrote:wait, wut?

I don't understand it either. WB too did this type of trades with Fran.

What is not to understand?

I moved back five to move up five. yes. I should have got a little more but he wouldn't include 142 for 144. But, the trade gives me 182,183, 184 and 217, 218, 219 and I am done. Meaning I don't have to check in as often and I don't have to make hard decisions. Unless I have a 5 person list when my three picks come up.

I remember that one time where you gave + 1 Hug
Hey I can do that too if they are happy
I m in to make them happy :roll:

fraanciiscoo · Post #223 » by **fraanciiscoo** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:48 pm

Curtis Lemansky wrote:
fraanciiscoo wrote:
AlciG wrote:Pretty hefty price to pay to move up 6 spots

ok lets check the trade that was done before

abonis trades: 43, 83, 118
alcig trades: 56, 65, 105

the difference between the #43 and the #46 is 3 spots
you gave a mid #60 + earlly 100´s

he gave late jumps
what is better? it deppends there are guys you prefer late jumps there are guys that prefer litle jumps in early stages
he keep his #69 pick
+ Love fits perfect with PaulG and KlayT

It is 43 for 56, 13 spots not 3 spots pal

I know curtis i telling the difference between the 43 ( the 1st pick sabonis traded ) and the 46 ( mine ) there was not a big difference

I m almost 100% sure you would pick Jokic too that said 1 spot difference can be 2 much or too litle to buy
I just never thought the same guy that picked conley would go Jokic my bad

fraanciiscoo · Post #224 » by **fraanciiscoo** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:55 pm

My picks are 52 59 92 99 115 139 149 177 179 224 259 262

PG
SG
G
G
SF
PF Porzing
F HorFord
F
C
C
B
B
B
B

I would want other 50´s pick or a pick in the range 65-75 will listen to offers
Regarding the IL spot i would be +1 if we decided before the draft start now i can grt choices were made not to draft a guy that if inj i got to carry on my team for 1 week etc -Then there are players that are suspended etc and the benefits can be gain not everything is rolling
this is my 2 cents i vote NO IL

Post #225 » by **Headliner** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:53 pm

I have two offers for Gobert that I am considering. Get your offers in Asap!
PM me if you want, Im on pretty much all the time.

fraanciiscoo · Post #226 » by **fraanciiscoo** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:00 pm

Headliner wrote:I have two offers for Gobert that I am considering. Get your offers in Asap!
PM me if you want, Im on pretty much all the time.

auction
auction
auction

Going once
Going twice

auction
auction
auction

dont know you already in love
squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze Gobert to have the edge in the tank FT strategy BUT if you keep Gobert you are done cause Gobert and westbrook are one of the wrost combo ever
i would accept and leave with the prize of have made a mistake and had the chance to fix it

AlciG · Post #227 » by **AlciG** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:00 pm

I have to agree with Fran on the IL spot. Although I have guys on my team that would benefit me having an IL that should have been voted on before the start of the draft

Post #228 » by **Headliner** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:20 pm

fraanciiscoo wrote:
Headliner wrote:I have two offers for Gobert that I am considering. Get your offers in Asap!
PM me if you want, Im on pretty much all the time.

auction
auction
auction

Going once
Going twice

auction
auction
auction

dont know you already in love
squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze Gobert to have the edge in the tank FT strategy BUT if you keep Gobert you are done cause Gobert and westbrook are one of the wrost combo ever
i would accept and leave with the prize of have made a mistake and had the chance to fix it

You are completely off. You are greatly over estimating the problems that a low volume 60% ft shooter costs a team. FT problems are caused far more by volume than by %. With Volume you can offset a mediocre FT% shooter with a high volume, great free shooter, making it irrelevant irrelevant.

The reason Deandre tanks FTs is because he shoots 8 a game at 45%, Drummond 8 at 35% and Howard 7 at .48%.

Gobert at 4 at 60% is not an issue. That equates to roughly 5 missed fts a week (the average 3 game week). Hardly devastating.

What is devestating is taking Horford with your first pick

He's going to be playing far less minutes, so that Boston can try and keep him healthy...which is hard to do, he's always injured and with Massive, season ending injuries at that. Good luck with him

theman · Post #229 » by **theman** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:26 pm

AlciG wrote:I have to agree with Fran on the IL spot. Although I have guys on my team that would benefit me having an IL that should have been voted on before the start of the draft

I see no problem with an IL spot especially since yahoo added it back.

Post #230 » by **Headliner** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:34 pm

theman wrote:
AlciG wrote:I have to agree with Fran on the IL spot. Although I have guys on my team that would benefit me having an IL that should have been voted on before the start of the draft

I see no problem with an IL spot especially since yahoo added it back.

The problem I see is that something like that should have been decided before the actual draft started. It may have changed how someone would have drafted if they knew. Guys that are injury risks now aren't as much as a liability, so it changes values of players.

Woody Allen · Post #231 » by **Woody Allen** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:37 pm

Yeah, exactly. I suggested it at least twice before the draft started and nobody said anything. We are absolutely not changing rules halfway through the draft.

fraanciiscoo · Post #232 » by **fraanciiscoo** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:41 pm

Headliner wrote:
fraanciiscoo wrote:
Headliner wrote:I have two offers for Gobert that I am considering. Get your offers in Asap!
PM me if you want, Im on pretty much all the time.

auction
auction
auction

Going once
Going twice

auction
auction
auction

dont know you already in love
squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze Gobert to have the edge in the tank FT strategy BUT if you keep Gobert you are done cause Gobert and westbrook are one of the wrost combo ever
i would accept and leave with the prize of have made a mistake and had the chance to fix it

You are completely off. You are greatly over estimating the problems that a low volume 60% ft shooter costs a team. FT problems are caused far more by volume than by %. With Volume you can offset a mediocre FT% shooter with a high volume, great free shooter, making it irrelevant irrelevant.

The reason Deandre tanks FTs is because he shoots 8 a game at 45%, Drummond 8 at 35% and Howard 7 at .48%.

Gobert at 4 at 60% is not an issue. That equates to roughly 5 missed fts a week (the average 3 game week). Hardly devastating.

What is devestating is taking Horford with your first pick
He's going to be playing far less minutes, so that Boston can try and keep him healthy...which is hard to do, he's always injured and with Massive, season ending injuries at that. Good luck with him

ahhaha like i said Love you already
oo-rah

theman · Post #233 » by **theman** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:15 pm

Headliner wrote:
theman wrote:
AlciG wrote:I have to agree with Fran on the IL spot. Although I have guys on my team that would benefit me having an IL that should have been voted on before the start of the draft

I see no problem with an IL spot especially since yahoo added it back.

The problem I see is that something like that should have been decided before the actual draft started. It may have changed how someone would have drafted if they knew. Guys that are injury risks now aren't as much as a liability, so it changes values of players.

Good luck replacing a guy you took with a top 50 pick with a guy that is left on the wire after 280 picks.

fraanciiscoo · Post #234 » by **fraanciiscoo** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:42 pm

hey the man who said " I didn't use the cocaine to get high
I just liked the way it smelled
" hahahah

theman · Post #235 » by **theman** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:51 pm

fraanciiscoo wrote:hey the man who said " I didn't use the cocaine to get high
I just liked the way it smelled
" hahahah

That is from a Ray Wylie Hubbard song called Conversation with the Devil.

Listen to it here:

Watch on YouTube

Woody Allen · Post #236 » by **Woody Allen** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:07 pm

I'm fully open to trade ideas as well, picks and/or players.

theman · Post #237 » by **theman** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:06 am

theman wrote:Huge trade to announce.

TheMan Sends : 177 + 224

For

Francisco Sends: 182 + 219

My picks
24 - Jimmy Butler
57
58
63
64
97
104
144
182
183
184
217
218
219

I think there is an error on the first page with the pick list. I has me owning 213 but I don't think I do. I think it belongs to Tkunit. But I am willing to keep it.

fraanciiscoo · Post #238 » by **fraanciiscoo** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:00 am

My picks are 59 92 99 115 139 149 177 179 224 259 262

PG Dragic
SG
G
G
SF
PF Porzing
F HorFord
F
C
C
B
B
B
B

tkunit · Post #239 » by **tkunit** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:16 am

Hopefully the moves in orlando lead to more from Fournier

Moooose · Post #240 » by **Moooose** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:01 am

tkunit wrote:Hopefully the moves in orlando lead to more from Fournier

Hi. I've sent you an email yesterday. tknova84@gmail.com, right?