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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#301 » by theman » Mon Nov 1, 2010 1:23 pm

writersblock wrote:FYI: I'm clarifying the rule on IL:

Because the Money League and FFL League, which many of us are also in, have an IL policy of being able to drop a player ON THE DAY that that player misses his final game for IL, rather than AFTER the game is over, I'm going to follow the same rules on this league. Otherwise, it's going to get confusing:


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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#302 » by writersblock » Mon Nov 1, 2010 1:32 pm

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writersblock wrote:FYI: I'm clarifying the rule on IL:

Because the Money League and FFL League, which many of us are also in, have an IL policy of being able to drop a player ON THE DAY that that player misses his final game for IL, rather than AFTER the game is over, I'm going to follow the same rules on this league. Otherwise, it's going to get confusing:


Stupid Rule.


We've actually already been doing this for the last several seasons.
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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#303 » by theman » Mon Nov 1, 2010 1:50 pm

writersblock wrote:
theman wrote:
writersblock wrote:FYI: I'm clarifying the rule on IL:

Because the Money League and FFL League, which many of us are also in, have an IL policy of being able to drop a player ON THE DAY that that player misses his final game for IL, rather than AFTER the game is over, I'm going to follow the same rules on this league. Otherwise, it's going to get confusing:


Stupid Rule.


We've actually already been doing this for the last several seasons.


In FFL?

FFDL > FFL.


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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#304 » by floppymoose » Mon Nov 1, 2010 3:42 pm

Yeah, I find the rule confusing. Arenas has missed two games, and may miss the third. But right now he is expected to play the third one. If the rule was simply to wait until after the game, you can't make a mistake unless you break the rule. Right now a manager who missed the latest on Arenas could put him on the IR before the game, add a player, and then Arenas could play. Which means the manager never should have been able to pick up the new player, which could affect another manager who had been about to pick him up.
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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#305 » by writersblock » Mon Nov 1, 2010 5:51 pm

theman wrote:In FFL?

FFDL > FFL.


:naaa:


Nope, in FFDL.

I don't find the rule confusing at all. You can drop the player on the day he misses his 5th game. I don't expect there will be a problem because 5 games is quite a few games to miss. Most people who miss 4 will probably miss 5 and beyond. If there are abuses, as Floppy pointed one out, then I, as the commish, will make the corresponding add/drop on the same day to fix the problem.

This hasn't been an issue in FFL, with even LESS time to wait for an IL, so I don't see it being an issue here with 5 full games to wait before dropping a player to IL.
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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#306 » by theman » Mon Nov 1, 2010 6:17 pm

writersblock wrote:
theman wrote:In FFL?

FFDL > FFL.


:naaa:


Nope, in FFDL.

I don't find the rule confusing at all. You can drop the player on the day he misses his 5th game. I don't expect there will be a problem because 5 games is quite a few games to miss. Most people who miss 4 will probably miss 5 and beyond. If there are abuses, as Floppy pointed one out, then I, as the commish, will make the corresponding add/drop on the same day to fix the problem.

This hasn't been an issue in FFL, with even LESS time to wait for an IL, so I don't see it being an issue here with 5 full games to wait before dropping a player to IL.


FFDL never had this rule. YS, tryed to sneak it through last year but is didn't work.

I guarantee at least one manager will abuse the rule.

What is the problem with waiting until the game is over? That makes a lot more sense.

From last years rules:

NEW RULE - The Ricky Rubio Rule will be invoked, starting from this season...that player will have to miss 5 games before being transferred to your IL. At the end of the season, you must make a decision (eh, theman) to either keep him in your 15-man roster heading into next season, or drop him to the FA pool.
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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#307 » by writersblock » Mon Nov 1, 2010 8:01 pm

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writersblock wrote:
theman wrote:In FFL?

FFDL > FFL.


:naaa:


Nope, in FFDL.

I don't find the rule confusing at all. You can drop the player on the day he misses his 5th game. I don't expect there will be a problem because 5 games is quite a few games to miss. Most people who miss 4 will probably miss 5 and beyond. If there are abuses, as Floppy pointed one out, then I, as the commish, will make the corresponding add/drop on the same day to fix the problem.

This hasn't been an issue in FFL, with even LESS time to wait for an IL, so I don't see it being an issue here with 5 full games to wait before dropping a player to IL.


FFDL never had this rule. YS, tryed to sneak it through last year but is didn't work.

I guarantee at least one manager will abuse the rule.

What is the problem with waiting until the game is over? That makes a lot more sense.

From last years rules:

NEW RULE - The Ricky Rubio Rule will be invoked, starting from this season...that player will have to miss 5 games before being transferred to your IL. At the end of the season, you must make a decision (eh, theman) to either keep him in your 15-man roster heading into next season, or drop him to the FA pool.


On several ocassions last year, it was practiced as such, the day of the 5th game missed a player could be dropped.

That being said, I've just seen BWW's rule modification in FFL, and considering that I used the FFL as a reason for the rule modification (I wanted to avoid confusion) it makes little sense to make this rule modification now.

So I to maintain consistency across the board, a player may be dropped after he has missed his 5th game.
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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#308 » by theman » Mon Nov 1, 2010 8:29 pm

Seems a little bit like American judges using foreign laws to justify their decisions but since you got this one right I will remain silent.
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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#309 » by hamncheese » Tue Nov 2, 2010 12:41 am

For clarification, is it after the 5th game is missed, and not the DAY after the 5th game is missed? BWW's rule for the FFL has it as the day after, not the same day after the game is missed.
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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#310 » by theman » Tue Nov 2, 2010 1:11 am

After he has missed his fifth game. The game is over, you can drop. Not a second sooner.

That is my interpretation.
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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#311 » by writersblock » Tue Nov 2, 2010 5:28 am

hamncheese wrote:For clarification, is it after the 5th game is missed, and not the DAY after the 5th game is missed? BWW's rule for the FFL has it as the day after, not the same day after the game is missed.


The second the game is over. I believe that was the intention of BWW's rule as well. But I'll let him clarify that.
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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#312 » by writersblock » Tue Nov 2, 2010 6:03 pm

In other news:

Wilson Chandler the top overall fantasy player to date this season. I have to admit, I didn't see that coming.
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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#313 » by east » Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:57 pm

This clarification has created more confusion than anything LOL. S'all good though.
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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#314 » by writersblock » Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:08 pm

east wrote:This clarification has created more confusion than anything LOL. S'all good though.


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how is "once the 5th game is over you can drop your player to IL" confusing? Isn't that what we've been doing all along (in some cases dropping on the day of the 5th game?)
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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#315 » by east » Wed Nov 3, 2010 9:38 pm

I thought it was changed to dropping on the day the fifth game is played? I saw several people dropped to the IL this morning? Flynn for example.
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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#316 » by writersblock » Thu Nov 4, 2010 1:40 am

east wrote:I thought it was changed to dropping on the day the fifth game is played? I saw several people dropped to the IL this morning? Flynn for example.


The official rule is once the 5th game is over. I had made it the day of the 5th game, but TheMan complained, er, pointed out potential discrepancies. So I clarified that it was the minute the game was over.

If we want, we can compensate for this. If someone is dropped on the day of the 5th game, but he plays in the 5th game, as commish, I'll go in and reverse the add drop. Honestly, I think dropping on the 5th day is ok.
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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#317 » by insfo » Thu Nov 4, 2010 1:56 am

ok, Skai dropped Flynn before the game today (which was the 5th game he missed) .. so does he become a FA now?
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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#318 » by Skai » Thu Nov 4, 2010 3:30 am

Okay, I read the clarification on the league homepage and it said, "So YOU do not have to wait until the game is over." That was the basis for dropping Flynn on the day of, rather than after.

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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#319 » by writersblock » Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:45 pm

Truth be told. I don't like the trade I have on the board with Sly, but I'm in a bit of a mess with my positions, and I haven't even been able to play Barbosa for days because I have way too many guards. Plus, I was worried about yet another lost season from Barbosa...Here's hoping Hansbrough figures things out over the course of the season. Also, time to change the name of my team.
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Re: FFDL: Clarification IL Rule 

Post#320 » by theman » Fri Nov 5, 2010 6:02 pm

I don't know why Sly who is in obvious rebuild mode would want a broken down Barbosa. Are there picks involved?
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