FFL 2014-2015 - Season under way

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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#321 » by hamncheese » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:46 pm

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hamncheese wrote:Curtis and theman with the extremes. Curtis going top heavy (5 players in top 52, not picking again until 163) while theman with 11 picks from 60 to 149.



and what I´m ? village idiot?
btw love all your picks @bmonster the critics you get are soooooooo unfair


no... you're in the middle, the means to their extremes. I would never think of you as the village idiot... village drunk, maybe. :D
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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#322 » by Cyrus » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:49 pm

Alright home, just looking at mails, and if no one gets back to me in the next few will pick.
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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#323 » by jazzfan1971 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:54 pm

Rose, Kobe, Anderson, Lopez all taken and not by me. What's the world coming to? (Didn't Noah have some work done as well?)
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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#324 » by fraanciiscoo » Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:10 am

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fraanciiscoo wrote:
hamncheese wrote:Curtis and theman with the extremes. Curtis going top heavy (5 players in top 52, not picking again until 163) while theman with 11 picks from 60 to 149.



and what I´m ? village idiot?
btw love all your picks @bmonster the critics you get are soooooooo unfair


no... you're in the middle, the means to their extremes. I would never think of you as the village idiot... village drunk, maybe. :D


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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#325 » by writersblock » Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:18 am

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stick wrote:I think everyone is missing the point by saying wb made a bad play by moving up to pick rhyno.


He made a bad move picking him regardless of whether the pick was traded for or not.


that's what I said to him exactly.

and on top of that I said this:
If you target player X at 34. And then trade up for 35 and pick Y at 35. If player Y has the better value, who wouldn't have lasted until 40, then you essentially traded up to get player Y. Not X..


Are you still on this? Your logic is still off. Your reasoning only works if I value Kobe higher than Ryno for my team. I don't. It doesn't have anything to do with who I think will last to 40. My big goal was to pair a high % big who can shoot 3s with Dragic. That was Ryno. I only traded up to get Kobe at 35 because I wanted a nice triple threat on points, 3s, & %s. Kobe was never a consideration for me at 34.

In fact, I made the deal for 35 AFTER I picked Ryno. (Check the time stamps). And I only made that deal because I thought 1) Kobe might not last until 47 (my next pick) and 2) I wasn't sacrificing much to do it. Now, would Kobe last until 47? maybe. But I was fine moving up for the drop at the back end.

Do you get it now Sabonis?

And I find Stick's commentary judging my choice in players ironic...considering where his team usually ends up in the standings. :) oh yes I did. 8)


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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#326 » by writersblock » Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:26 am

jazzfan1971 wrote:Wiggles did taht one year, it was a disaster IIRC.


I made that same point a few posts ago.

In other news, I sure miss Wiggles


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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#327 » by writersblock » Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:28 am

Cyrus wrote:Alright home, just looking at mails, and if no one gets back to me in the next few will pick.


I'll trade for your pick. I need to start another debate about trading up for players with Sabonis.


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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#328 » by Cyrus » Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:29 am

Damn I was hoping Brook would slip to me here, damn i knew i should have demanded the 34 from WB.

Anyways hoping for Chandler to having a bigger year in DAL.
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Post#329 » by Woody Allen » Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:30 am

Cyrus wrote:Alright home, just looking at mails, and if no one gets back to me in the next few will pick.


I've sent you something that doesn't include the current pick.
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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#330 » by writersblock » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:15 am

Cyrus wrote:Damn I was hoping Brook would slip to me here, damn i knew i should have demanded the 34 from WB.

Anyways hoping for Chandler to having a bigger year in DAL.


Sorry, there was no way I was trading 34...ask Sabonis, I traded up for that pick :wink:

BTW, I don't get the fascination with Brook Lopez. Sure he's got great %s, I see that, but his boards are almost a liability for centers, his blocks aren't that great, and he's regularly injured.He hasn't played a whole season since 2011. In fact, it's almost taken him 3 seasons to play a whole season.
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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#331 » by fraanciiscoo » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:32 am

writersblock wrote:
sabonis wrote:
stick wrote:I think everyone is missing the point by saying wb made a bad play by moving up to pick rhyno.


He made a bad move picking him regardless of whether the pick was traded for or not.


that's what I said to him exactly.

and on top of that I said this:
If you target player X at 34. And then trade up for 35 and pick Y at 35. If player Y has the better value, who wouldn't have lasted until 40, then you essentially traded up to get player Y. Not X..


Are you still on this? Your logic is still off. Your reasoning only works if I value Kobe higher than Ryno for my team. I don't. It doesn't have anything to do with who I think will last to 40. My big goal was to pair a high % big who can shoot 3s with Dragic. That was Ryno. I only traded up to get Kobe at 35 because I wanted a nice triple threat on points, 3s, & %s. Kobe was never a consideration for me at 34.

In fact, I made the deal for 35 AFTER I picked Ryno. (Check the time stamps). And I only made that deal because I thought 1) Kobe might not last until 47 (my next pick) and 2) I wasn't sacrificing much to do it. Now, would Kobe last until 47? maybe. But I was fine moving up for the drop at the back end.

Do you get it now Sabonis?

And I find Stick's commentary judging my choice in players ironic...considering where his team usually ends up in the standings. :) oh yes I did. 8)


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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#332 » by Woody Allen » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:40 am

I might need someone to send my list to. Unless I trade away the pick in the next hour or so.
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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#333 » by fraanciiscoo » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:04 am

Woody Allen wrote:I might need someone to send my list to. Unless I trade away the pick in the next hour or so.



i dont have picks till the 78 so if you want can send me your list
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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#334 » by Woody Allen » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:09 am

I am still thinking about my list. So many different routes to go.
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Post#335 » by fraanciiscoo » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:52 am

Woody Allen wrote:I am still thinking about my list. So many different routes to go.


thats the Kond Draculante factor
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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#336 » by Breakdown777 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:58 am

Far too many trades this year. I can't keep anything straight.

Fran amuses me, he trades down to trade up to trade back down to get rid of his super low picks. It's almost like he just wanted to draft 20th and won't rest until he gets 80% of theman's picks.

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I wonder if this has ever been mentioned, or if it even matters, but I wouldn't be opposed the draft switching orders every 2 rounds....so instead of Woody getting 1, 40, 41....that 41 would've went to theman and snaked the opposite way, then woody gets pick 101, etc. I've had a draft position of 15-20 the last few years, and it just seems like the top 3 picks for someone picking 1-5 far outweigh the top 3 of someone picking 16th for example, even after considering later round makeups.

Maybe I'm over thinking things.
Maybe the talent pool changes every year and sometime there really are 60+ "top3" caliber players.
Maybe it's sour grapes.
It's definitely sour grapes. :D

I still feel it's something to chew on though.
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Post#337 » by tkunit » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:05 am

Breakdown777 wrote:Far too many trades this year. I can't keep anything straight.

Fran amuses me, he trades down to trade up to trade back down to get rid of his super low picks. It's almost like he just wanted to draft 20th and won't rest until he gets 80% of theman's picks.

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I wonder if this has ever been mentioned, or if it even matters, but I wouldn't be opposed the draft switching orders every 2 rounds....so instead of Woody getting 1, 40, 41....that 41 would've went to theman and snaked the opposite way, then woody gets pick 101, etc. I've had a draft position of 15-20 the last few years, and it just seems like the top 3 picks for someone picking 1-5 far outweigh the top 3 of someone picking 16th for example, even after considering later round makeups.

Maybe I'm over thinking things.
Maybe the talent pool changes every year and sometime there really are 60+ "top3" caliber players.
Maybe it's sour grapes.
It's definitely sour grapes. :D

I still feel it's something to chew on though.


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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#338 » by jazzfan1971 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:53 am

Trade to announce

Jazzfan trades 41+97+137+201+224

JFrost trades 59+109+139+142+189
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Post#339 » by jfrost » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:05 am

jazzfan1971 wrote:Trade to announce

Jazzfan trades 41+97+137+201+224

JFrost trades 59+109+139+142+189


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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#340 » by fraanciiscoo » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:11 am

Breakdown777 wrote:Far too many trades this year. I can't keep anything straight.

Fran amuses me, he trades down to trade up to trade back down to get rid of his super low picks. It's almost like he just wanted to draft 20th and won't rest until he gets 80% of theman's picks.

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I wonder if this has ever been mentioned, or if it even matters, but I wouldn't be opposed the draft switching orders every 2 rounds....so instead of Woody getting 1, 40, 41....that 41 would've went to theman and snaked the opposite way, then woody gets pick 101, etc. I've had a draft position of 15-20 the last few years, and it just seems like the top 3 picks for someone picking 1-5 far outweigh the top 3 of someone picking 16th for example, even after considering later round makeups.

Maybe I'm over thinking things.
Maybe the talent pool changes every year and sometime there really are 60+ "top3" caliber players.
Maybe it's sour grapes.
It's definitely sour grapes. :D

I still feel it's something to chew on though.


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