FFL 2016 - 2017 - Discussion Thread

[Headliner]

Same, never do auction leagues. Sorry man

[tkunit]

does anyone of you have experience with auction drafts and especially with punting? I'd like to chat and get your opinion on things a little, if you do pls mail me at cankori at gmail dot com

So, no one? Really?

Careful at the start, depending how the players come up on auction the first couple bug names sell high.

It is always fun to try to bid up a price, and watch the draft order because if someone good comes up late you want to be in position to get him.

[fraanciiscoo]

may i ask who the fk is Tomáš Satoranský?

[fraanciiscoo]

Sly Team: Is curry enough ? nah

Mistakes
#Curry with the 1st pick - not this year - Trade down with the 3rd pick and pray for harden or westbrook to fall to #3

#CJMcCollum with his 3rd - his he going to improve this year not happend i dont see it ? more ast no more pts nah ... and so on

#3 guys only with C eligibility picked in the Top 160 ??? Outch !!! its better to pick a guy you rank 2 spots behind that got to bench day after day one #160 pick in a 20 team x 14 players draft

#4 belive it or not 4th Collison - Normally there are injurys you cant see it coming - tell this to sabonis ( middleton anyone ) - then there are injurys you are expecting to happend ( guys that normally miss time i wont say names we all know who they are and i dont want to jinx it ) - then there are guys that already are injured ( aka reke yeah he is injured i m just reporting ) - so why in hell do we go after a guy that is not injured yet going to miss time ? 10 games ? 24 th who knows

PG Stephen Curry
SG CJ McCollum
G CJ Miles
G 240
SF Kyle Korver
PF Taj Gibson
F Joakim Noah
F Jared Dudley
C Jonas Valanciunas
C Marcin Gortat
BN Tyson Chandler
BN Darren Collison
BN 241
BN 280

Veredic - unless Curry goes mad and puts 40pts 10 rebs 20 ast 10 trey per game he is going to miss the playoffs

[fraanciiscoo]

Bww team: I been away for 1 year - last year AD was #1 pre season - Hey not anymore

Mistakes
1 to 5 :
He got the #2nd pick of the draft and he went for the guy who never played more than 69 games in one season ??? he can only get better right
then wait he goes and pick Marc Gasol who came a season ending injury and a guy that just got paid and except scoring what more does he do ?
when you think the wrost already passed he picked jru ( u know there rest- even still top 5 risk pick draft after draft ) and a rookie simmons ( yeah that just got inj yesterday )

#6 a old school stuff pick 3 guys with the C eligibility - care to explain ? I cant

#7 not happy went to pick Embiid that was selected 3 years ago and haves 2 season ending injurys

PG Ish Smith
SG Demar Derozan
G
G
SF
PF Anthony Davis
F Luol Deng
F
C Marc Gasol
C Jahlil Okafor
BN Ben Simmons
BN Jrue Holiday
BN Joel Emblid
BN

Veredic : I m a bad guy and i wont go to heaven check,
I m trooling again you are correct
but bww wont make the playoff this year maybe not even the next and i know this is not a dinasty

[fraanciiscoo]

Sabonis team: The middleton effect

Mistakes
Nothing he could more imo - Middleton was inj but he is not a inj risk guy
nice picks allround
Like it or not he knows what he is doing
Like a nba player Sabonis get better year after year
I would trade a G for one PF/C or SF/PF for sure to ballance especially one that could fit a smallball team

PG Jeremy Lin
SG Lou Williams
G Deron Williams
G Marcus Smart
SF James Harden
PF Ryan Anderson
F Chandler Parsons
F Frank Kaminsky
C Kelly Olynyk
C 238
BN Khris Middleton
BN Jamal Crawford
BN 278
BN 243

Veredict:the other two teams i already gave my 2 cents - already have injurys and guys that going to face suspensions the difference is Sabonis is a good drafter and even with one of his top picks down i have no problem saying his team is Playoffs team for sure even wo middleton

[fraanciiscoo]

Headliner Team: new kid on the block #1

Mistakes

I already said once and i will say it over and over again
when you have Russell Westbrook to tango you know what to do tank FG and To Right? why in Hell did you pick Gobert??
Loved the Hayward pick contract year and fits with RW
Hate the booker pick ( now but might be great if they find away to trade you know who ... )
Hezonja & Lyles perfect just perfect spot
Dont bite the randle guy on the opp way i think nurkic is a sleeper pick where you picked him

Pg Russell Westbrook
SG Hayward
G Devin Booker
G George Hill
SF Mario Hezonja
PF Mirza Teletovic
F Julius Randle
F Trey Lyles
C Gobert
C Jusuf Nurkic
BN 225
BN 244
BN 204
BN 277

Veredict: Right now after 4 team overlook you are top 2 team for sure but hey belive me it s not difficult eitherway except Gobert and the new kid on block II I dare to say you were one of the two new best things this league had. Good GM´s are always welcome

[fraanciiscoo]

Hamncheese Team: He always been a solid why change that this year?

Mistakes:
I would stay away from Vucevic and Durant this year but overall they fit together somewhat

Do they fit together ? I dont know !! At 1st look he will need :
- bledsoe wo injurys
- gordon see above
- Mirotic to hit his 1st two shoots otherwise he will go the the end of the bench
- Kief to keep it together
- Vucevic to work well with ibaka
- Kanter to play some D


PG Eric Bledsoe
SG Eric Gordon
G E'Twaun Moore
G 205
SF Nikola Mirotic
PF Kevin Durant
F Moe Harkless
F Markief Morris
C Nikola Vucevic
C Enes Kanter
BN Solomon Hill
BN 236
BN 245
BN 276

Veredict : IDK i hate to say this but i dont see it working
i might be wrong i normally i m but i dont see it this year man
alot If
something going to fail

[Headliner]

I can't believe that in 2016-17 I picked Roy Hibbert in a draft lol.

I'm hoping timeshare at C and he can supply me with a really cheap 1.5 bpg. hoping he can fulfill the Al Jefferson plodder C role they live in Charlotte

[sabonis]

Sabonis team: The middleton effect

Mistakes
Nothing he could more imo - Middleton was inj but he is not a inj risk guy
nice picks allround
Like it or not he knows what he is doing
Like a nba player Sabonis get better year after year
I would trade a G for one PF/C or SF/PF for sure to ballance especially one that could fit a smallball team

PG Jeremy Lin
SG Lou Williams
G Deron Williams
G Marcus Smart
SF James Harden
PF Ryan Anderson
F Chandler Parsons
F Frank Kaminsky
C Kelly Olynyk
C 238
BN Khris Middleton
BN Jamal Crawford
BN 278
BN 243

Veredict:the other two teams i already gave my 2 cents - already have injurys and guys that going to face suspensions the difference is Sabonis is a good drafter and even with one of his top picks down i have no problem saying his team is Playoffs team for sure even wo middleton

I don't see anyway that I can recover from my 2nd rounder getting injured. He was picked at 38 but his value is probably top 30. And once I saw Middleton was available I wanted to go small and for a small ball team, he's almost top 10.

Now also there's some scary news that Seth Curry might eat into Deron's minutes (which I didn't expect at all).

Oh and if I had the time & energy, I would have traded away my 56th pick and got Parsons at late 60s instead. but I didn't. It would have helped a lot for my team.

Other than that I'm happy with my picks but I don't think I can make the playoffs.

[tkunit]

may i ask who the fk is Tomáš Satoranský?

The 202 pick

[floppymoose]

I don't see anyway that I can recover from my 2nd rounder getting injured.

The year I lost Horford for the season as a late 1st rounder I finished 19th, so I feel ya.

[hamncheese]

Can't disagree with Fran's assessment of my team. Hill does have SG eligibilty so he can slot in the open guard spot.

I hemmed and hawed about the Vucevic pick because of his playing time situation. I nearly took Middleton over Bledsoe so that worked out for now.

[floppymoose]

Sabonis, I've had decent luck with auction drafts. I don't feel like I'm good at them so much as most other people are very bad at them.

Nominate people you don't want but who will be wanted by others. You want to reduce the budget of your opponents. If you are punting a cat, you may want to nominate people who don't fit your build, to help commit the winner of that auction to a different build from yours and thus help you avoid competition for players.

Figure out who the $1 players are, which ones are the right ones for you, and try to have spare cash at the end so that if another nominates the $1 player you want, you can bid $2 and get them because no one else can bid.

The hardest part for me is getting a feel for where the other players are willing to go. Last year in an auction draft I misread that, and ended up winning a high-priced player I didn't actually want, because I thought I could drive up the price on him. That meant I wasn't in control in the later parts of the draft because I was in poor cash position.

[AlciG]

BWW missed his pick by about a week.

And now he picked ahead of time by about a week.

[fraanciiscoo]

now it came the of the year when everyone tanks to wait for that pre season game to grab the 200´ish steal after making trade ups to have the more possible 200´ish pick they could

#strategy
#ImNotAlone ( tank wise )
#NowNoOneBitch

[AlciG]

Too many missing their clock

[sabonis]

Sabonis, I've had decent luck with auction drafts. I don't feel like I'm good at them so much as most other people are very bad at them.

Nominate people you don't want but who will be wanted by others. You want to reduce the budget of your opponents. If you are punting a cat, you may want to nominate people who don't fit your build, to help commit the winner of that auction to a different build from yours and thus help you avoid competition for players.

Figure out who the $1 players are, which ones are the right ones for you, and try to have spare cash at the end so that if another nominates the $1 player you want, you can bid $2 and get them because no one else can bid.

The hardest part for me is getting a feel for where the other players are willing to go. Last year in an auction draft I misread that, and ended up winning a high-priced player I didn't actually want, because I thought I could drive up the price on him. That meant I wasn't in control in the later parts of the draft because I was in poor cash position.

Yeah I always nominate the players that I don't want, starting with lebron James, so that a manager will be left with only 130 usd for rest of draft =)

I think I need a reference point for the fair price of players in a 16 team league. Yahoo expected and Yahoo averages are ****.
I have been screwed because all the top 60 players were going too expensive and then I was left with trash players with a full budget, so it didn't turn out well haha.

Does bbm's dollar values for players accurate? I haven't used it before but now I'm thinking of using it. It makes you select how many 1 dollar players per team there's gonna be, it usually is 2 or 3 one dollar player per team right?

[AlciG]

So... 1 more hour and Stick will also be late, right?

[floppymoose]

Sabonis, I don't think any auction value list is accurate for your particular draft. The situation you describe with yahoo happens all the time, but I'm not sure how much of that is "yahoo's auction vslues are bad" and how much is "if you show a recommended price, someone will always go over it".

I go into every auction expecting players to be overbid until resource constraints kick in.