FFKL 2007-08 [Winner: east!]

[Stanford]

I hate the rookie rule.

So one vote against.

[writersblock]

I''ll chime in...I think the rookie rule stinks too. Though, I would not be against keeping a rookie over the offseason. Holding onto a rookie all season long is a waste.

If I had to vote keep a rookie or no...I'd vote no.

[KalElen]

Investing into a rookie is really not very beneficial unless he is a sure fire stud like Durant.So it doesnt make a lot of sense to use a roster spor(even with 5 bench spots) for a rookie since the only benefit of the rookie is you will be allowed to keep him for one more year without using one of your protection.If we are going to make to hold a rookie all the time at the roster,how about to increase the benefits of holding him?Like instead of one year;you get to protect a rookie for two years without using your protection slots.So lets say you drafted someone like Yi Jianlian and at the end of this season you decided to protect him.That decision automatically enables you to protect him next off season(summer of 2009) as well.So the rookie you chose to protect at the end of his rookie season,can be protected at the end of 2nd season as well.(here is the catch,if you proctect Yi now and trade him during his second season,then his new team wont hold his rights to protect him) May sound complicated but the main idea is if we are going to force to hold onto a rookie for the entire year,lets put at least a little bit more benefits into a rookie.

what do you think about this?

[Stanford]

Yeah, I'd be alright with keeping one sophmore and one rookie, as long as the sophmore was your rookie keeper.

[east]

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[sacstar16]

Yeah, I'd be alright with keeping one sophmore and one rookie, as long as the sophmore was your rookie keeper.

Wait- so with nostradamus' rule, if you decide to keep the sophomore, the sophomore becomes your "rookie" keeper. Or do you get to keep 6 players in total instead of 5? I'm confused.

[Stanford]

Well my take on that rule would be - you can keep 4 players, plus one rookie and one sophmore, as long as he was your rookie keeper. However, I don't like the idea of a roster spot just for a rookie/soph.

[KalElen]

Well my take on that rule would be - you can keep 4 players, plus one rookie and one sophmore, as long as he was your rookie keeper. However, I don't like the idea of a roster spot just for a rookie/soph.

this is correct. it means that NOBODY HAS TO OWN A ROOKIE AT ANY TIME, but if he decides to do so he will be rewarded with an extra keeper slot for that rookie in next 2 years. he can choose not to keep the rookie after the 1st or 2nd year thus openning roster spot for a player to be drafted or he can keep him for his sophmore and 3rd season independently of 4 regular keeper slots. you can only do this if you kept the rookie on your active roster (or il) at all times. if you trade him away gm who trades for him can only keep him as one of 4 regular keepers

this means that you can have between 4 and 6 keepers depending on your rookie/sophmore management(4 regulars + a rookie after year 2 + a rookie after hear one)

[KalElen]

we need to agree on keeper rule asap so we can complete league roster and move on to other issues so

this is the official league vote. everyone is required to participate. those who don't do it within 7 days from now will be replaced.

here are the options:

1. everyone is allowed to keep a rookie after each season with no restrictions (current rule)

2. everyone is required to keep a rookie after each season but is free to either draft him or acquire him prior to keeper announcements

3. everyone is required to draft at least one rookie every season, keep at least one rookie on his active roster or il at all times during the season and to keep one rookie after each season

4. regular 4 keepers league without any rookie requirements or incentives

5. nobody has to own a rookie at any time, but if he decides to do so he will be rewarded with an extra keeper slot for that rookie in next 2 years. he can choose not to keep the rookie after the 1st or 2nd year thus opening roster spot for a player to be drafted or he can keep him for his sophomore and 3rd season independently of 4 regular keeper slots. you can only do this if you kept the rookie on your active roster (or il) at all times. if you trade him away gm who trades for him can only keep him as one of 4 regular keepers
this means that you can have between 4 and 6 keepers depending on your rookie/sophomore management(4 regulars + a rookie after year 2 + a rookie after hear one)

vote by posting word VOTE: and number in front of your choice in this thread. please keep any comments you might have in separate posts to make it easier to count the votes. if you have any questions feel free to ask, but make sure you do it within required time frame

[KalElen]

VOTE: 5

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[Woody Allen]

Comment on a separate post: I think the current rule (the one that lets you keep a rookie but does not force you into anything) if just fine. I don't get why we're trying to create more complications.

Same goes with the IL spots. I'm against reducing it to only one spot, seems pointless.

[KalElen]

il reduction is intended to improve fa depth. if you have 2 unconditional il spots you can hold any player you want them as long as you want thus reducing fa pool.
as for the rookie rule it's a metter of personal preference. i'm not against current rule, but i do think 5th option would make it more interesting

[TheTorontoGM]

Vote - 5

[writersblock]

vote - 5

Though I can promise, IT will get very tricky to manage it. I still like the strategy it involves though.

[Stanford]

VOTE: 5

[sacstar16]

5. nobody has to own a rookie at any time, but if he decides to do so he will be rewarded with an extra keeper slot for that rookie in next 2 years. he can choose not to keep the rookie after the 1st or 2nd year thus opening roster spot for a player to be drafted or he can keep him for his sophomore and 3rd season independently of 4 regular keeper slots. you can only do this if you kept the rookie on your active roster (or il) at all times. if you trade him away gm who trades for him can only keep him as one of 4 regular keepers
this means that you can have between 4 and 6 keepers depending on your rookie/sophomore management(4 regulars + a rookie after year 2 + a rookie after hear one)

Another question- can you only keep the sophomore if you actually drafted him as a rookie and kept him for a whole 2 seasons long or if he was just your rookie keeper? I would think you have to actually draft him since trading can't give you that option of a sophomore keeper.

Just making sure before I vote.

[Stanford]

My take is that you can keep the soph as long as he was your keeper. I don't think it needs to be your draft pick. I'll let KalElan field that one though

[sacstar16]

Thanks
I was mainly confused about the trading part but I think I got it.
If you trade for the rookie and he becomes your rookie keeper, it applies. I think the rule to keep the sophomore only doesn't apply when you actually trade for him in the second season?

[bww78]

Vote: 4