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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#961 » by writersblock » Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:34 pm

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Not sure how much wb expects from a 20 minute player but at that spot, Bayless should get 11 pts, 1.3 threes, 3 assists, and 1 steal, which is solid in a 20-team league for the 11th man on the roster.


You'd think he could get that, but the problem is that in 22 min/game last year with Mem (his current team), he didn't get anywhere near that.
8 ppg, .9 3s, 41%fg, 3 ast, .7 stl

Bayless is a good player so you hope he can get his #s up, but I based my comments on what he did in 20 mins last year.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#962 » by sabonis » Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:15 am

Curtis Lemansky wrote:I'll be around for another hour or so. So feel free to send me a list.


I'm around as well but I guess other pickers aren't.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#963 » by Breakdown777 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:27 am

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Curtis Lemansky wrote:I'll be around for another hour or so. So feel free to send me a list.


I'm around as well but I guess other pickers aren't.


Sorry. Work has been crazytown. I've basically went straight to bed after dinner lately, unless I had a pick to make. I had a short list that had sufficed since 223.

CJ Miles and Motiejunas were the last guys on my short list, so even though I saw it was my pick around 3:00, I couldn't do anything about it until I got home and went over my ranks.

So if you want to blame someone, blame the guy who took CJ Miles. It's all his fault. :wink:
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#964 » by hamncheese » Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:51 am

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ham wrote:
Not sure how much wb expects from a 20 minute player but at that spot, Bayless should get 11 pts, 1.3 threes, 3 assists, and 1 steal, which is solid in a 20-team league for the 11th man on the roster.


You'd think he could get that, but the problem is that in 22 min/game last year with Mem (his current team), he didn't get anywhere near that.
8 ppg, .9 3s, 41%fg, 3 ast, .7 stl

Bayless is a good player so you hope he can get his #s up, but I based my comments on what he did in 20 mins last year.


Bayless had a bad first half of the season, it picked up during the second half. And yes, I'm going by those as he became more used to his role and adjusted to a new team. The departure of Gay may have been a factor too.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#965 » by writersblock » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:02 am

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ham wrote:
Not sure how much wb expects from a 20 minute player but at that spot, Bayless should get 11 pts, 1.3 threes, 3 assists, and 1 steal, which is solid in a 20-team league for the 11th man on the roster.


You'd think he could get that, but the problem is that in 22 min/game last year with Mem (his current team), he didn't get anywhere near that.
8 ppg, .9 3s, 41%fg, 3 ast, .7 stl

Bayless is a good player so you hope he can get his #s up, but I based my comments on what he did in 20 mins last year.


Bayless had a bad first half of the season, it picked up during the second half. And yes, I'm going by those as he became more used to his role and adjusted to a new team. The departure of Gay may have been a factor too.


Probably a good rationale. It seemed odd he did so much worse in the same amount of time.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#966 » by floppymoose » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:21 am

pick 265 is forfeit if jazz hasn't traded it to someone who can use it before it goes on the clock, right?
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#967 » by fraanciiscoo » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:30 am

floppymoose wrote:pick 265 is forfeit if jazz hasn't traded it to someone who can use it before it goes on the clock, right?


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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#968 » by sabonis » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:52 pm

ah didn't know that he wasn't gonna use his pick (should have been a warning in the draft thread title though). I even sent an email to him last night. I will pick within 30-40 minutes or so.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#969 » by sabonis » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:48 pm

well another contract year player and he has to prove to Pop that he's worth playing. Dirk is old and somewhat injury prone, Wright is meh, Dalembert is Dalembert and they lost Elton Brand & Kaman, so there should be around 18-20 minutes for Blair.

Anyway my roster is like this, let the comments begin

PG - Rose
SG - Redick
G - Jimmy Butler
G - Conley
SF - Tucker
PF - Ryan Anderson
F - Ilyasova
F - Moultrie
C - Kanter
C - Olynyk
Bench - Ben Gordon
Bench - CJ Watson
Bench - CJ Miles
Bench - Dejuan Blair
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#970 » by bww78 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:16 pm

And there goes the last player on my list. Curse you.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#971 » by sabonis » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:41 pm

bww78 wrote:And there goes the last player on my list. Curse you.


why don't you return the favor with an analysis of the team :lol:

I actually didn't consider Blair until yesterday because I had totally forgotten about him. but while browsing the rosters to find other possible targets he just caught my eye.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#972 » by writersblock » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:45 pm

sabonis wrote:well another contract year player and he has to prove to Pop that he's worth playing. Dirk is old and somewhat injury prone, Wright is meh, Dalembert is Dalembert and they lost Elton Brand & Kaman, so there should be around 18-20 minutes for Blair.

Anyway my roster is like this, let the comments begin

PG - Rose
SG - Redick
G - Butler
G - Conley
SF - Tucker
PF - Ryan Anderson
F - Ilyasova
F - Moultrie
C - Kanter
C - Olynyk
Bench - Ben Gordon
Bench - CJ Watson
Bench - CJ Miles
Bench - Dejuan Blair


I see a lot of potential with this team. Without looking at the numbers in detail, my first thought is that this team is very strong in guard stats. You'll be getting the scoring, 3s, and even steals from your guards and your wings. Your depth is also very guard-stat-heavy.

I think your biggest question is your big man stats: How good will Kanter and Olynyk be? KAnter is supposed to have the keys to Utah's front court, but with no Al Jeff looking over his shoulder, how will he do? Olynyk is an even bigger question mark. I doubt Olynyk does as well as people expect, at least before the all-star break. You don't have many back-ups who can fill in either, which means you'll be relying a lot on guys like Blair to fill your C spot. That's not good.

I do really like your "sleeper" picks. Butler, Moultrie, and Tucker have bright futures this year, I think, and your success this year relies as much on them as it does on your top guys like Rose.

I'm not a big fan of your last picks. Gordon has a tough road to climb to get minutes in Charlotte, and I bet he's begging for a trade by January. I think Miles is awful, but in 20 mins a game, besides hurting your %s, he'll give you 10ppg and a 3, so you can't complain. I just wonder if he loses minutes, as waiters emerges as a key part of that rotation. Waiters only played 28 min/game. If he improves his game this year, he's going to need closer to 35, cutting into Miles' minutes. I think Blair is an ok pick, he has steadily lost minutes over the last 3 years, ending at 14/game in 12-13. That's the exact opposite you would expect from a young guy like him. Even in those minutes, he does next to nothing. FG% and modest (very modest) points. Not what you need from a big man.

You might say: Knocking a team for its last picks is a bit unfair, like missing the forest for the trees, but the problem is that in this league, the bottom of your roster is just as important as the top. You can't float with also-rans on your bench, and I worry that might be your biggest weakness (apart from your weakness in big man stats).

Even so, I'd say your team is definitely top 8, and should easily make the playoffs.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#973 » by hamncheese » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:05 pm

sabonis wrote:well another contract year player and he has to prove to Pop that he's worth playing. Dirk is old and somewhat injury prone, Wright is meh, Dalembert is Dalembert and they lost Elton Brand & Kaman, so there should be around 18-20 minutes for Blair.

Anyway my roster is like this, let the comments begin

PG - Rose
SG - Redick
G - Butler
G - Conley
SF - Tucker
PF - Ryan Anderson
F - Ilyasova
F - Moultrie
C - Kanter
C - Olynyk
Bench - Ben Gordon
Bench - CJ Watson
Bench - CJ Miles
Bench - Dejuan Blair


I agree with what Brian said. I like it as a playoff team but it's very tight among bottom playoff teams and bubble teams, as I don't see it as a top 4. But what looks like a top 4 to me on paper never seems to work once the season is played. Definite strength in the "small ball" categories. Should be one of the top teams in 3's and ft%. Should put up points, assists, and steals. The bigs such as Ilyasova, Anderson, and Olynyk are the types that add to a small ball team. Blocks is a pretty much a punt for your team.

I too don't like the Gordon pick, simply because I even Gordon wants to play well in contract year, I don't think Charlotte really cares or intends to bring him back. He simply may not get enough playing time as they to focus on their young players.

I like the Redick, Tucker, and Butler picks at where you got them.

Blair is on a new team and with Dalembert as the starting center, there is the potential for playing time. As the manager who drafted Dalembert, I am aware of the dangers of Dally, which could be a good thing for Brandan Wright and Blair owners. CJ Miles has potential... on another team. So best hope is a trade. He's always had potential but has been hurt a lot, and it doesn't look like there is much room for him in Cleveland.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#974 » by Skai » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:32 pm

Anyone have interest in Drummond? If so, email me at MichaelRS@gmail.com. I'm looking for a PF/C in return.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#975 » by 3Si » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:39 pm

Skai wrote:Anyone have interest in Drummond? If so, email me at MichaelRS@gmail.com. I'm looking for a PF/C in return.


If the price is not too steep, yes I'm interested. Email me ur offer, etiff at hotmail
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#976 » by writersblock » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:03 pm

Hey look, I'm up. Picking soon
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#977 » by Woody Allen » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:07 pm

Phil Pressey is totally the guy who will start while Rondo is out.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#978 » by writersblock » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:14 pm

Not sure what it says about Psycho T that in a league traditionally heavy with Raptor fans, that he's still around at pick 273. here's hoping he was simply overlooked.

I think he should easily get 20-24 minutes/game backing up both PF and C, and he could even push Amir Johnson for the starting job. I see him filling in the Ed Davis role from last year.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#979 » by fraanciiscoo » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:21 pm

Woody Allen wrote:Phil Pressey is totally the guy who will start while Rondo is out.


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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#980 » by Woody Allen » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:25 pm

As with Luc Richard, et al. it's not about minutes with Tyler Hansbrough. He did play 22 mpg for two seasons in Indiana and produced exactly 0 assists, 0 steals and 0 blocks during that era. Ed Davis, on the other hand blocks shots and rebounds twice as much.

No pick is bad at 270s, but Hansbrough really has no potential of becoming a good fantasy player.

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