King23 wrote:i think you either miss read or i miss typed. i ment or typed no ones dominated tennis like he has, hes the most dominate at that ever, and he will be in the argument for most dominate "athlete" ever... cant remember exactly what i wrote but thats what i meant.
ill just say this first, im not actually much of a tennis fan or a roger fedderer fan actually, what he has done just amazes me. i like all sport in general.
I'm not much of a tennis fan either, but I agree that he has done some crazy things in the sport.
i might counter some of what you said though, the fact you listed 3 seperate basketball players shows there was 3 ppl that dominated their sport in the same sport. but to be honoust if you just said jordan i would agree thats a fair argument.
Yeah, I probably could have listed just Jordan, but I felt that the achievements of guys like Russell and Chamberlain should be mentioned. Tennis is a solo game, whereas basketball is a team game, so for someone to dominate the sport in the way that any of those three have is even more impressive in my opinion.
wayne gretsky, yeah hes in argument too. not that i know anything about hockey.
I'm not a huge hockey fan myself, but I know that he has set some crazy records in that sport.
id say no to ali, boxing is my second favorite sport next to basketball and this guy one of my all time favs. hes greatest boxer ever yes. but he had his troubles, he was 50 something and 5... them last 3 loses id write off, he was old and deteriating, just didnt know when to retire. but he still lost 2, he won 2 out of three against frazier, to my memory all three of them could have gone either way, maybe one of them he was a clear winner. he also had 2 wins over norton that were pretty lucky and probably should have lost them. i think he pulled the stitching from his glove to give himself more time to recover from a knockdown in one fight, or he was gonna be done for. i mean hes a good argument, i personally would say federer over ali by time its all said and done.
I'm not a big boxing fan, so I will have to take your word for it.
yeah bradman. though how many matches did he play? i mean hussy averaged high 70's in quite a few tests, im in no way compairing hussey to bradman, but my point is someone like tendulkar and ponting have had great averages over a much longer time span and in a era when bowling is far superior. i dont think don bradman is as clear cut as people think, though hes average will NEVER be touched, id throw in shane warne in conversation as wel. hes teh best bowler ive ever seen(forget murali, shane warnes record is far more impressive to me) and hes the biggest gamewinner/gamechanger ive ever seen. i think if it wasnt for his off field disscressions he would have been our greatest captain ever, quite easily. but thats just here say. but very smart cricketer.
The number of matches Bradman played is about the only thing that can be used to minimize the impact that he had on the game. Back when he played, cricket wasn't a full-time job the way it is for players of this era. Guys like Ponting, Tendulkar, Lara etc all have very impressive records, but they have all played over a longer period of time. That probably doesn't make much sense, but my point is that with the amount of games they have played, they can afford to have a bad innings here and there because they can cover it by one particularly big innings. For Bradman, he had to score runs EVERY time he played. As for Warne, I agree with you. There has been no one in cricket history who has had the impact with the ball that Warne has. He took leg spin and turned it into equal parts art and science. No one has mastered a cricket ball like he has.
i dont think tony lockett is even the best afl player ever, that it self is very debatable, who is it leigh? carey?
whats your take on the loss of fev? im not trying to be an arse you just dont see many afl fans on here?
I agree that Lockett isn't the best AFL player ever. I mentioned him because his goal record is about the most impressive-sounding statistic that I could think of. As for the best player ever, I'm really not sure. Some people say Carey, and while he was a star, I always thought he was over-rated. Leigh Matthews is probably considered by most people to be the best overall, but I think it's hard to say who is better than who for players in different positions.
As for losing Fevola, I was crushed when I heard the news. He was my favorite player, and I think it could be argued that he was our most important player, even ahead of Judd. All of my friends have had a great time teasing me and asking where our goals are going to come from this season, but after thinking about it for a bit, I think we will be OK. We will have a far more even spread of scoring options than we have had in recent years, although no one in our forward line will match the individual impact that Fev did. We got Lachie Henderson (pick #8 a couple of years ago) who is a real star-potential key position forward. We have Eddie Betts who is dangerous, Judd will go forward at times, as will our four ruckmen. We also have Chris Yarran, the #6 pick last season. He has great potential as well. I'm sure there are players that I am forgetting, but my point is that our forward line should be able to produce a decent amount of goals, not to mention we have a midfield which can kick goals as well.
ive wrote way to much, and i hope it makes some sense coz im far from sober
I understood most of what you were saying, except for some of the most dominant athlete stuff about Federer.