All-Star Weekend

[Double Dribble]

-= original quote snipped =-
... Still waiting to hear you explain that "the only game Gay has is dunking the ball" after hptmatthew and cinnamon offered contrary points.

you're going to be waiting a long time since there's nothing to explain. it was a simple, straight forward statement. i purposefully didn't use big words so that the meaning wouldn't be lost on anyone. what's there to explain?

Personal attacks on other posters and myself don't validate your statement; in fact, they only make it weaker IMO, because they show your sole purpose for being here is to be antagonistic - and not to discuss the Grizz.

that's cute. you are hung up on my statement about Gay for some reason. there's no need for me to explain it, there's no need for me to defend it, and there's no need for me to validate it. there's nothing to dissect; the emotions and meaning are worn on the sleeve. you keep waiting on a defense or explanation that is neither needed nor necessary. quit projecting your shortcomings onto my statements.

as usual, and as i pointed out above, you are so quick to try to read and project ulterior meanings into my posts that were never there in the first place in an effort to somehow try to best me or to show how clever you are and you fail every single time. and now you've gone and done it again.

[Grizzfan777]

Why isnt this useless poster aka Double Dribble banned yet.

[jefe]

-= original quote snipped =-

that's cute. you are hung up on my statement about Gay for some reason. there's no need for me to explain it, there's no need for me to defend it, and there's no need for me to validate it. there's nothing to dissect; the emotions and meaning are worn on the sleeve. you keep waiting on a defense or explanation that is neither needed nor necessary. quit projecting your shortcomings onto my statements.

as usual, and as i pointed out above, you are so quick to try to read and project ulterior meanings into my posts that were never there in the first place in an effort to somehow try to best me or to show how clever you are and you fail every single time. and now you've gone and done it again.

... and yet I still wait to be persuaded by more than your bare statement (without any corroborating facts) that Rudy's game is more than dunking. Here's a simple fact for you to consider and attempt to rebut: 92/236 for 39% from behind the arc this season. That would seem to indicate he's doing more than dunking.

Kudos in still not being able to address a substantive issue despite all this blustering; and you'll have to pardon me for "being hung up" on the appropriate topic of this board - the Grizz - and not your personal attacks. When you've got something of substance to say, I'm more than ready to discuss it - but I won't become a party to your juvenile mudslinging.

[Double Dribble]

-= original quote snipped =-
... and yet I still wait to be persuaded by more than your bare statement (without any corroborating facts) that Rudy's game is more than dunking.

as i said above, you're going to be waiting an awfully long time (and i said the only game Gay has is dunking the ball; i didn't say his game is more than dunking). i frankly couldn't care less if you're persuaded or not, nor do i care if you do or don't agree with my opinion. i don't post for your benefit or with you and your apparent need for every little thing to be dissected or presented in dissertation form in mind. the statement is an open book; it's intent and meaning is obvious. well...except to you and matthew.

Kudos in still not being able to address a substantive issue despite all this blustering; and you'll have to pardon me for "being hung up" on the appropriate topic of this board - the Grizz - and not your personal attacks. When you've got something of substance to say, I'm more than ready to discuss it - but I won't become a party to your juvenile mudslinging.

this absolutely cracks me up: "a substantive issue". there is no issue, except the one that exists only in your head. there's nothing to belabor here, and no one here is blustering except you. i'll have to pardon you??? HAVE TO? really? get over yourself.

[jefe]

-= original quote snipped =-

this absolutely cracks me up: "a substantive issue". there is no issue, except the one that exists only in your head. there's nothing to belabor here, and no one here is blustering except you. i'll have to pardon you??? HAVE TO? really? get over yourself.

I'll take this post as a statement from you to the effect of "I know my 'point' about Rudy Gay was uniformed and wrong; I don't have a shred of evidence to back it up, so please stop asking me."

Fair enough? Or do you wish to continue to have a discuss with yourself concerning collateral issues in place of the the substance of the discussion (i.e. Rudy' game)?

[Double Dribble]

I wouldn't expect any less from you. I certainly wouldn't want you to endanger your record of being wrong. your responses are predictable. just go back to my original reply to matthew in this thread:

i'm always amused when people (you and jefe especially) try to anticipate a response from me and presume to know what i would say on any given matter or believe there is some underlying sinister motive behind any statement i make. they are, without fail, wrong. maybe someday someone will actually ask a question instead of making up an answer and then attacking it.

you certainly love to try to twist or distort my words. your absolute insistence in presuming to know what i would say is simple arrogance.

"so please stop asking me". as if to underscore the bit quoted above, the first time you have ever asked me a question in this entire thread was in this post, and that question was "fair enough?" as for your second question (also in this post), if you go back, you'll see that i posted on topic. matthew is the one who chose to turn the topic elsewhere. now, here you wail and gnash over your misperception that i'm not defending an off the cuff comment about Gay, yet matthew makes a string of false assumptions about an anticipated response from me...and he was entirely wrong, of course...and that somehow his incorrect comments don't need defending. interesting.

[jefe]

I wouldn't expect any less from you. I certainly wouldn't want you to endanger your record of being wrong. your responses are predictable. just go back to my original reply to matthew in this thread:

i'm always amused when people (you and jefe especially) try to anticipate a response from me and presume to know what i would say on any given matter or believe there is some underlying sinister motive behind any statement i make. they are, without fail, wrong. maybe someday someone will actually ask a question instead of making up an answer and then attacking it.

you certainly love to try to twist or distort my words. your absolute insistence in presuming to know what i would say is simple arrogance.

"so please stop asking me". as if to underscore the bit quoted above, the first time you have ever asked me a question in this entire thread was in this post, and that question was "fair enough?" as for your second question (also in this post), if you go back, you'll see that i posted on topic. matthew is the one who chose to turn the topic elsewhere. now, here you wail and gnash over your misperception that i'm not defending an off the cuff comment about Gay, yet matthew makes a string of false assumptions about an anticipated response from me...and he was entirely wrong, of course...and that somehow his incorrect comments don't need defending. interesting.

... and still you haven't - or should I say you can't - defend your initial comment about Rudy Gay's game. Here's another fact for you to attempt to rebut: he's made more 3 pointers this year than dunks.

I have no interest in these collateral issues - the discussion of which allows you to duck and avoid the topic that is actually meant to be discussed on here on Realgm (i.e. NBA basketball) - only the substance that is the subject of this board. Feel free to discuss Rudy Gay's game, instead of me or other posters, in your next post.

[Double Dribble]

... and still you haven't - or should I say you can't - defend your initial comment about Rudy Gay's game. Here's another fact for you to attempt to rebut: he's made more 3 pointers this year than dunks.

I have no interest in these collateral issues - the discussion of which allows you to duck and avoid the topic that is actually meant to be discussed on here on Realgm (i.e. NBA basketball) - only the substance that is the subject of this board. Feel free to discuss Rudy Gay's game, instead of me or other posters, in your next post.

i guess in your case habits are hard to break. i've told you more than once that the comment doesn't need or require defending. so please, quit confusing that for "can't". as for "ducking"...there's nothing to duck. there's nothing to avoid. you are somehow threatened by an innocuous opinion presented in a very simple statement.

[jefe]

... and still you haven't - or should I say you can't - defend your initial comment about Rudy Gay's game. Here's another fact for you to attempt to rebut: he's made more 3 pointers this year than dunks.

I have no interest in these collateral issues - the discussion of which allows you to duck and avoid the topic that is actually meant to be discussed on here on Realgm (i.e. NBA basketball) - only the substance that is the subject of this board. Feel free to discuss Rudy Gay's game, instead of me or other posters, in your next post.

i guess in your case habits are hard to break. i've told you more than once that the comment doesn't need or require defending. so please, quit confusing that for "can't". as for "ducking"...there's nothing to duck. there's nothing to avoid. you are somehow threatened by an innocuous opinion presented in a very simple statement.

So, it's an indefensible opinion that has no basis in reality - as evidenced by Rudy's stats. Fair enough.

[Double Dribble]

incorrect again. you've merely repackaged your previous post, and insist on being dull-witted, deliberately misconstruing "can't" for "haven't" and/or "unwilling". generally, when one person tells another, "no, you've misunderstood my meaning," or, "no, you've got it all wrong," the one to whom it is directed usually says, "my mistake,"; however, we're well past that point and that would require of you a base level intelligence somewhere above imbecile. rest assured, i will never set the bar that high and expect that of you.

[jefe]

incorrect again.

After three pages of refusing to offer any support for your opinion (in the face of counter opinions and objective facts offered by other posters and myself) and alternatively blustering about me and other posters, I don't know why you would refuse to acknowledge that your aforementioned opinion is indefensible - unless you offered it for reasons other than discussing Rudy Gay's game.

With that said, I've given you more than ample opportunity to defend your opinion, and you've continually declined. So why exactly do you come to these boards? It's obviously not to discuss the Grizz - that seems to be a transparent rationalization. Given the content of your posts in this thread, I would guess that your actual purpose for coming to these boards is to "discuss" myself and other posters - since that is the subject of the vast majority of your posts herein.

Should your next post fail to address the substantive issue I've been attempting to discuss with you for 3 pages now (i.e. Rudy's game), this post will be my last in the thread as I'll take your failure to address the issue as an acknowledgement that this post's content regarding your purpose for coming to these boards is entirely on-point.

[Double Dribble]

I would guess that your actual purpose for coming to these boards is to "discuss" myself and other posters - since that is the subject of the vast majority of your posts herein.

that's odd, because looking at my initial post in this thread, the only person mentioned in it is Rudy Gay.

none of this other crap would be taking place had matthew not turned the topic of discussion onto me and made his usual erroneous presumptions. maybe if you and he would quit presuming to know what you think i'd say, discussion of the topic could take place.