Hamed Haddadi assigned to d-league

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The Grizzlies recalled Haddadi on December 24, and he made his NBA debut six days later, becoming the first Iranian native to play in the league, according to Bismarcktribune.

7-foot-2 Haddadi played in just four games with Memphis, averaging 1.3 points and rebounds. He likely would have been reassigned to the Wizards earlier, but an injury to Darko Milicic caused the Grizzlies to keep him around longer than expected.

Haddadi arrived in Bismarck Monday night and practiced with the Wizards on Tuesday. His teammates welcomed him back.

“I think it’s great,” Wizards coach Duane Ticknor said, adding, “It gives us more depth up front.”

I think its ridiculous how our team is lacking scoring and rebounding in bench. But retarted, gay guys keep getting chances to play but Hamed who can rebound both offensively and defensively and score is not being given the chance to show what he is made up. Our team really has sh*tty bench players but were not giving the few guys who can make a difference any chance at all. Like Obama said we need change that change has to come now or were gonna keep failing.

[Knicksick]

That's what I found astonishing. Haddadi killed some established NBA players in international competition. He dropped something like 20points/16rebounds/6blocks on Scola and Oberto for example.

[jman3134]

So did Daniel Santiago and Larry Ayuso.

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So did Daniel Santiago and Larry Ayuso.

those guys aren't special Hamed is special and hes a lot better player.

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Im going to give you guys his d-league stats and you can compare it with our bench players and starters. If you ask me he is alot better than a guy like Darco Millic and should be put even ahead of this guy on our rooster. I believe personally that Darco has no future with our team because hes way to overrated in my opinion and should be somewhere down in D-league. Everyone was expecting Darco to become something after the nba draft but he failed everyone and showed he can never be an all star and franchise player. Darco is an average player and person that will never be anything and has nothing left to give to any nba team. There are also a lot of average players in the nba that will never become something and bring nothing to their team.

Okay so last game Dakota played the mad ants and in 21 minutes Hamid had 7 points 12 rebounds, 3 BS, 1 steal and he shot 3-9 on the floor and his team won. He was one of the big impacts in the game in which he helped increase the margin of the score and the coach afterward praised him of his performance. Considering he dident have any minutes here I expected him to do alot poorly there but he proved me and everyone else wrong.

[jman3134]

Darko has been a starter in the NBA. Hamed cannot even dominate in the D League. It's really not a comparison.

[chrbal]

How can Hamed possibly prove himself worthy of playing time on a team with both Chris Mihm and Adonal Foyle?

[I Am Awesome-O]

Im going to give you guys his d-league stats and you can compare it with our bench players and starters. If you ask me he is alot better than a guy like Darco Millic and should be put even ahead of this guy on our rooster. I believe personally that Darco has no future with our team because hes way to overrated in my opinion and should be somewhere down in D-league. Everyone was expecting Darco to become something after the nba draft but he failed everyone and showed he can never be an all star and franchise player. Darco is an average player and person that will never be anything and has nothing left to give to any nba team. There are also a lot of average players in the nba that will never become something and bring nothing to their team.

Okay so last game Dakota played the mad ants and in 21 minutes Hamid had 7 points 12 rebounds, 3 BS, 1 steal and he shot 3-9 on the floor and his team won. He was one of the big impacts in the game in which he helped increase the margin of the score and the coach afterward praised him of his performance. Considering he dident have any minutes here I expected him to do alot poorly there but he proved me and everyone else wrong.

How can you say Haddadi is a better player than Darko when he hasn't played two minutes in an NBA game? Darko has played his role very well this year and will always be the better player than Haddadi. I'm not saying Darko is an all-star or anything, but he is a good role player, which is more than you can say about Haddadi. If Hamed was so special, I guarantee you that he wouldn't be riding the bench all season, even if he can't speak a word of English. (see: Yao Ming)

Also, if Darko was sent to the D-League, he would absolutely dominate. No one would have any idea how to stop him. The talent gap between Haddadi and Darko is very big. I don't get why everyone on here has a boner for Haddadi. He could eventually be a decent defensive presence off the bench, but the guy will never be a starter.

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Darko has been a starter in the NBA. Hamed cannot even dominate in the D League. It's really not a comparison.

what the edit have you been reading my post before you answer. Seriously you dont know how to analyze this team so no offense to you but please let the experts like myself explain. When more than half of our team is d-league caliber you dont make a statement as stupid as you posted above. Yes Darco has been a starter but being a starter doesn't mean that your necessarily a good player. Did Hamed even get the chance to show himself in Memphis? - Please answer that question for me and all will be clear. Hamed doesn't get enough minutes to dominate in the d-league have you ever wondered if that is the reason why hes not dominating. Hamed is a good player, he just needs a good mentor(coach) to give him playing time and have trust in him. Our current Memphis coach is (Please Use More Appropriate Word) and probably racist as well that's why he diden't give Hamed a chance to do something. Other teams are trying to improve their problems while our team keeps getting worst by year and the reason is that the coaches are not giving young players enough minutes. Just in the last Rudy Gay(supposedly allstar player) had one of the worst performances of the night - Did you or did you not see how many minutes he got in the Sacramento game. The problem with our team is we dont have a franchise player and we dont have a player we can count on to lead this team. Yes you can say Oj Mayo is our franchise player but tbh I really see him as second role type of player not really a franchise player just like Rudy Gay third role type of player to support the franchise player. If somehow we could shop around for a franchise player this summer we might be able to get in the play offs two seasons from now. Most good teams in the nba have one franchise or more than one franchise player who they can depend on for example look at the Celtics their two franchise players are Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett while Ray Allen is the Second role type of player to support the franchise player's and Rajon Rondo is the third role type of player, while the others are the: fourth, fifth, sixth and so on type of players who all have different roles on the team. A franchise players is a leader that carry's a team on its shoulders through hard times and never gives up trying to make a good impact.


It's cool to agree to disagree. No need to get hot under the collar if others don't agree with your views. Also, no need with the fanities.

[jman3134]

What stats did you provide? 7 points in 21 minutes? Tremendous tremendous showing of potential. Let me just expose you for the troll that you are being. First of all, I would refrain from profanity when someone does not agree with you absurd conjectures.

I don't know how to analyze this team, but you somehow do? Put Hamed in the game and all our problems are over? We are playing in an up tempo offense, or at least trying to. We don't need this guy slowing down the game for us. That is a huge reason why he is not playing. So, throw out the racism and all the bs that you are presenting because apparently you bring nothing of value to the table in your analysis. We are not giving young players enough minutes? Let's take a look at who receives the most playing time on our roster, shall we? Rudy Gay has two years under his belt and plays 37 minutes a game. OJ, a rookie, plays 38mpg.
Warrick with three years in the league-obviously a chiseled veteran- receives a whopping 26mpg. Mike Conley, 2nd year player, receiving 28 mpg and Marc Gasol, a rookie, receiving 30mpg. Even though your ridiculous analysis doesn't even merit an educated response, I am giving it to you so you can stop your ranting once and for all. It's one thing to like a player, but another entirely to call the entire team trash and say that one of the worst players on the roster should be receiving the majority of the minutes. Your arguments don't hold their weight in any context. So, do your best to get yourself out of this jam, and I look forward to hearing something else besides your analysis of Hamed. (because that's all you seem to talk about) If we aren't playing young players, I don't know who we are playing....If the problem is that we don't have a franchise player, then playing Hamed has absolutely nothing to do with this. (because by logical suppositions, you can tell that I don't view him as a franchise player) I generally agree with your ending remarks, but I do not see how this has anything to do with Hamed. It's just some random tangent not even addressing the argument I'm putting forward.

But, let us just assume that Darko's performance shows that he is awful and should not be playing. Is it a logical deduction to then assume that we should be playing the last guy on the bench? He performed well in competition that has nothing to do with NBA basketball. Should we just chalk it up to the coach being a racist without any basis for this comment? Or, is it just a more logical assumption that the best players in practice see the floor? And you are telling me that I should not be analyzing the Grizz.......

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^^ Look first of all you can do what ever you want on this forum since your the mod and not only because of that but you can have your own point of view just like I have my own point of view on this mather. No I dont think Hamed is a franchise player if your asking me that but however I think he got huge potential to become a good player and he is a sleeper. And the last part about the franchise player in the other paragraph wasnt even about Hamed it was about our overall team not having a franchise player or players. Any ways you ask me if the coach is racist well then I can answer that question with a big yes. Tell me how it is that when Iavaroni was coach Hamed at least got 2 minutes but now Lionell is not giving any minutes to Hamed, I'm not saying give minutes to Hamed every day but once in a while when Marc Gasol is tired or having a bad day give him 10 to 30 minutes in the 4th quarter and see how he does, and then you can judge. Our team can benefit with Hamed in our current circumstance considering we have no shot this year to make the playoffs and become a contender, anyways my point is we need to be giving minutes to people who do not get any minutes or a lot of minutes like bench players because in someways this could benefit us a lot and could be good for our future instead of giving a lot of minutes to guys like Rudy Gay, OJ Mayo, Mike Connley, Marc Gasol and even Darco. Why not give guys like Warrick more minutes or Greg Buckner, Darius miles and Chris Mihm(when he comes here that is).


Look you can like it or not but this entire team is trash and you have to accept this in the end. maybe not this year, maybe not next year but you have to accept this later on. Sure this team is going to improve and make the playoffs later on but they will never be contenders for the nba championship title because our teams problem goes back to the roots which is we don't have a franchise player who can lead our team and that is our biggest problem.

[jman3134]

I'm not a moderator on this board, so no, I can't say whatever I want. I'm held to the same rules as you.
The sad part about our conversation is that I generally agree with what you're saying, but I am pointing out that you take it to the extreme by putting forth arguments that have no basis. (other than the fact that Hamed isn't playing) Anyway, I agree that he should receive some NBA playing time, but not *more* playing time than Darko etc. That's the key as to where we differ.

I accept that our team is not a playoff team. (and to a degree, trash as you say) Believe me, you don't know the half of what I feel about our squad. Making the playoffs years back and not winning a game. It's frustrating to be a diehard fan. So it's kind of a foregone conclusion for me. And yes, you are right that we are not a championship team with our current team composition. I argued this last year just as much as anyone- we need a franchise player. And, also, if he have been reading my comments, you'd know how staunch I was against OJ Mayo prior to draft time. I would say that he has proven me wrong to a degree, but I still agree with you to a point.

If you were to ask me the root of our problems, I would generally say the offensive system in which we play. Time and again, fast paced teams have not won it in the end. (with the exception of the Bulls, who were excellent in the half court as well) Look at the Suns etc. But, we are simply catering to our personnel at this point. We have athletic young guys who can get up and down the floor, so we are going to play this system. My greatest problem is the high volume outside shooting. It's a general problem I see in all of NBA basketball though.