Boozer for Milicic and #2

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

Brooks > Conley > Rubio

Totally disagree. How many of Rubio's games have you watched, outside of the Olympics - I'm guessing not many if any at all. Rubio is a pure point guard. Also, how many of Conley's games did you watch after Hollins took over as coach and Lowry was moved. Again, I'm guessing not many. Each brings something different to the table, so not only do I disagree with your overall rankings, I'd also argue that they're not ever really the same type of players.

Scola > Landry > Warrick and Arthur combined

Wholly agree here.

This years draft isn't even all that great. If you arnt the #1 pick, then there really isn't anyone to look forward to. Rubio is very raw and wont really be able to compete in this league for quite some time as he adjust his physical and mental attributes.

Here's where you are really wrong. Outside of the first two pick's there's not much star potential. However, this draft is deep in guys that will have long careers as rotation players. Not necessarily starters, but guys that will be earning a check beyond their rookie contract.

[Snip]

Are you kidding me? This is one of the worst drafts ever...Can you imagine if Griffin decided not to come out?

I like Rubio and what I have seen on 'youtube' or at the olympics. However he will require some work, wont be a quick fix for a team (like Conley, will take some time). At the moment I feel brooks/lowry are better players than Conley. Yes, Conley has potential (but so does Oden and all the other underachievers we have seen thus far).

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

Are you kidding me? This is one of the worst drafts ever...Can you imagine if Griffin decided not to come out?

I like Rubio and what I have seen on 'youtube' or at the olympics. However he will require some work, wont be a quick fix for a team (like Conley, will take some time). At the moment I feel brooks/lowry are better players than Conley. Yes, Conley has potential (but so does Oden and all the other underachievers we have seen thus far).

Again, what I said was in regards to obvious star power, yeah it's a bad year. However, the draft has an abundance of guys that will contribute and that - IMO - makes it a better draft that what it appears to be at a simple glance.

[jefe]

Brooks > Conley > Rubio

Scola > Landry > Warrick and Arthur combined

This years draft isn't even all that great. If you arnt the #1 pick, then there really isn't anyone to look forward to. Rubio is very raw and wont really be able to compete in this league for quite some time as he adjust his physical and mental attributes.

That's great that it's your opinion; however, many GMs disagree with you - and they're the ones making offers for the number two pick. So even if your feigning disinterest in Rubio were an opinion also held by Houston's GM, he'd still have to bid against every other GM more interested in Rubio to have a shot at acquiring him. Putting down Rubio's talent/value does you no good - other than showing how out of touch you are.

Also, comparing Rubio's current play with experienced NBA player's current play is a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) way to gauge Rubios's (or any draft prospect for that matter) value. Go ask the Charlotte Hornets if they made out like bandits on draft night 96 because at the time Divac > Kobe.

[Snip]

Brooks > Conley > Rubio

Scola > Landry > Warrick and Arthur combined

This years draft isn't even all that great. If you arnt the #1 pick, then there really isn't anyone to look forward to. Rubio is very raw and wont really be able to compete in this league for quite some time as he adjust his physical and mental attributes.

That's great that it's your opinion; however, many GMs disagree with you - and they're the ones making offers for the number two pick. So even if your feigning disinterest in Rubio were an opinion also held by Houston's GM, he'd still have to bid against every other GM more interested in Rubio to have a shot at acquiring him. Putting down Rubio's talent/value does you no good - other than showing how out of touch you are.

Also, comparing Rubio's current play with experienced NBA player's current play is a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) way to gauge Rubios's (or any draft prospect for that matter) value. Go ask the Charlotte Hornets if they made out like bandits on draft night 96 because at the time Divac > Kobe.

Many people are making offers for the #2 pick also because you are the Grizzlies (who gave away Pau Gasol). I think many GM's think they can get away with something for cheap. There is a lot to it then just the players. Jerry West felt he owed the Lakers a favor, so he gave Pau away. I dont know who your GM is now, but he may owe a favor to someone and do the same.

Rubio pick is going to be a hit or miss and will also depend on how long (the team who ultimately drafts him) they are willing to wait for him to develop. Kobe took a few years as did KG, Tmac, Amare etc.... Everything is obviously based on potential, and who can measure what potential is worth these days. I mean you may draft a Greg Oden, then find out he's out the whole year with a knee issues and look like Sam Bowie Jr. And yes it is my opinion, I have no raw facts/data to back up anything and neither do you. I just feel asking for anything big like swinging for Josh Smith, Amare, Jamison, Allen won't happen. You have budding stars in Gay/Mayo/Conley, so you need good role players, and I mentioned Brooks, Landry, or even Scola could fit the bill. I think at some point you guys need to stop rebuilding and just start playing, and fitting in those role players will pay dividends. If houston were to attain the pick, I have a good hunch our GM Morey would flip it to some other team for something else. We arnt in the rebuilding phase yet.

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

Now you're just trolling Snip. Please move on - you're adding nothing here. Thanks!

[Joel Embust]

I understand why you wouln't do this deal, (Boozer would probably take the walk) but this starting five looks awesome:

Conley
Mayo
Gay
Boozer
Gasol

It's a shame he's such a **** when it comes to contract issues.

[BarbaGrizz]

Now you're just trolling Snip. Please move on - you're adding nothing here. Thanks!

+1

[jefe]

Many people are making offers for the #2 pick also because you are the Grizzlies (who gave away Pau Gasol). I think many GM's think they can get away with something for cheap. There is a lot to it then just the players. Jerry West felt he owed the Lakers a favor, so he gave Pau away. I dont know who your GM is now, but he may owe a favor to someone and do the same.

Rubio pick is going to be a hit or miss and will also depend on how long (the team who ultimately drafts him) they are willing to wait for him to develop. Kobe took a few years as did KG, Tmac, Amare etc.... Everything is obviously based on potential, and who can measure what potential is worth these days. I mean you may draft a Greg Oden, then find out he's out the whole year with a knee issues and look like Sam Bowie Jr. And yes it is my opinion, I have no raw facts/data to back up anything and neither do you. I just feel asking for anything big like swinging for Josh Smith, Amare, Jamison, Allen won't happen. You have budding stars in Gay/Mayo/Conley, so you need good role players, and I mentioned Brooks, Landry, or even Scola could fit the bill. I think at some point you guys need to stop rebuilding and just start playing, and fitting in those role players will pay dividends. If houston were to attain the pick, I have a good hunch our GM Morey would flip it to some other team for something else. We arnt in the rebuilding phase yet.

I'll agree with everyone else that you're just trolling now - because Jerry West was long gone when the Pau deal was done - and you're an ignorant troll at that. Assuming arguendo that everyone is making a bid because they think they can get Rubio for cheap - so long as everyone legitimately wants Rubio, it (that is the fact that the GMs think they can get Rubio for cheap) doesn't devalue the pick because they will be bidding against each other not the Grizz. Also, as a troll I'd expect nothing more of you than to suggest the Grizz trade the pick for well below its value - you wouldn't be a troll if you didn't.

[boogiesdad]

The trade is theory started out good.

But the Grizz are idiots if they move the #2 for an expiring............... even if its Lebron.

[Snip]

Many people are making offers for the #2 pick also because you are the Grizzlies (who gave away Pau Gasol). I think many GM's think they can get away with something for cheap. There is a lot to it then just the players. Jerry West felt he owed the Lakers a favor, so he gave Pau away. I dont know who your GM is now, but he may owe a favor to someone and do the same.

Rubio pick is going to be a hit or miss and will also depend on how long (the team who ultimately drafts him) they are willing to wait for him to develop. Kobe took a few years as did KG, Tmac, Amare etc.... Everything is obviously based on potential, and who can measure what potential is worth these days. I mean you may draft a Greg Oden, then find out he's out the whole year with a knee issues and look like Sam Bowie Jr. And yes it is my opinion, I have no raw facts/data to back up anything and neither do you. I just feel asking for anything big like swinging for Josh Smith, Amare, Jamison, Allen won't happen. You have budding stars in Gay/Mayo/Conley, so you need good role players, and I mentioned Brooks, Landry, or even Scola could fit the bill. I think at some point you guys need to stop rebuilding and just start playing, and fitting in those role players will pay dividends. If houston were to attain the pick, I have a good hunch our GM Morey would flip it to some other team for something else. We arnt in the rebuilding phase yet.

I'll agree with everyone else that you're just trolling now - because Jerry West was long gone when the Pau deal was done - and you're an ignorant troll at that. Assuming arguendo that everyone is making a bid because they think they can get Rubio for cheap - so long as everyone legitimately wants Rubio, it (that is the fact that the GMs think they can get Rubio for cheap) doesn't devalue the pick because they will be bidding against each other not the Grizz. Also, as a troll I'd expect nothing more of you than to suggest the Grizz trade the pick for well below its value - you wouldn't be a troll if you didn't.

Jerry West was NOT long gone, you don't even know your own team. Rubio has a huge buy-out issue which will also scare teams away. What if Rubio decides to stay in Spain after all? Josh Smith rumors which has surfaced also has a trade kicker of over $6 million (I think 8, but not sure). I just dont get the direction memphis is going. All I am saying is memphis has a chance to be conservative with this pick by not drafting Rubio and draft a nice role player...and wait till 2010 and splurge like crazy by picking up a few big timers.

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

Jerry West was NOT long gone, you don't even know your own team.

West was no longer with the Grizz in the capacity of GM. The decision was Heisley's. Wallace did as instructed. The Lakers were the only team that were willing and had available to give what Heisley was demanding - Cap Space (Kwame's expiring), talent (Gasol 2.0 and JC - who was flipped for an outstanding 1st in a deal with the Wiz) and 2 picks.

[BarbaGrizz]

Let me see if I get this right: This Snip guy wants to know more of our team then ourselves?