Mem / Bos / Clips Draft day trade!

Celtics>Breathing · Post #1 » by **Celtics>Breathing** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:13 pm

What do you think Grizz fans?

Boston:

Chris Kamen
Mike Conley
Zach Randolph
#2 pick 2009

LA Clippers:

Ray Allen
Marco Jaric

Memphis:

Rajon Rondo
Kendrick Perkins
Tony Allen

Boston brings on salary but a lot of depth and talent.
Clippers drop salary. Clears way for new franchise player. Brings in some class.
Memphis brings in two young proven players. No lottery bust. Clears salary.

GrizzledGrizzFan · Post #2 » by **GrizzledGrizzFan** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:22 pm

I guess the Grizz could sign Glen Davis too and bring in another ring

- It's a bit far fetched IMO, but it looks a lot better than the Grizz drafting Thabeet.

Celtics>Breathing · Post #3 » by **Celtics>Breathing** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:46 pm

GrizzledGrizzFan wrote:I guess the Grizz could sign Glen Davis too and bring in another ring - It's a bit far fetched IMO, but it looks a lot better than the Grizz drafting Thabeet.

You'd need to swindle a deal involving KG and PP for that there championship my friend. :wink:

I like this deal, my colleges do not. Will have to see what happens next week. I think it's safe to say something will happen though.

GrizzledGrizzFan · Post #4 » by **GrizzledGrizzFan** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:48 pm

Celtics>Breathing wrote:You'd need to swindle a deal involving KG and PP for that there championship my friend.

Nah - I just meant in regards to bringing in someone else that already has a ring.

Joe Kleazy · Post #5 » by **Joe Kleazy** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:53 pm

Celtics>Breathing wrote:What do you think Grizz fans?

Boston:

Chris Kamen
Mike Conley
Zach Randolph
#2 pick 2009LA Clippers:

Ray Allen
Marco Jaric

Memphis:

Rajon Rondo
Kendrick Perkins
Tony Allen

Boston brings on salary but a lot of depth and talent.
Clippers drop salary. Clears way for new franchise player. Brings in some class.
Memphis brings in two young proven players. No lottery bust. Clears salary.

WHY in the HELL would any of these teams outside of boston do this trade? You trade the LEAST two important players of your championship team for two of last years clippers starters, memphis's starting PG and the second pick. DAMN I know they took a hit on the gasol trade but it was to progress in the future not continue to get robbed every year afterwards.

Joe Kleazy · Post #6 » by **Joe Kleazy** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:01 pm

Celtics>Breathing wrote:
GrizzledGrizzFan wrote:I guess the Grizz could sign Glen Davis too and bring in another ring - It's a bit far fetched IMO, but it looks a lot better than the Grizz drafting Thabeet.

You'd need to swindle a deal involving KG and PP for that there championship my friend.

I like this deal, my colleges do not. Will have to see what happens next week. I think it's safe to say something will happen though.

Your use of a word for an educational institution in the place of what you meant here answers my questions for your opening post. The word for today kids is " COLLEAGUES". :lol:

vanjulio · Post #7 » by **vanjulio** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:07 pm

we would love to swindle you guys for this deal

Downtown · Post #8 » by **Downtown** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:19 pm

Since it was a Celtics(I assume) fan posting this I don't feel bad commenting favorably about it since it favors Memphis. Back when we still had the Sonics I went on record saying Seattle should draft Kenrick Perkins. Instead they took Robert Swift. Big mistake. Aside from his shoulder injury Perkins has been a force for Boston inside and it's that hardnosed defense that has transformed them into a highend team.

Rajon Rondo running the Grizzlies under Lionel Hollins and being the backcourt partner for OJ Mayo looks very good, better than Mike Conley. Rondo is coming into his prime years.

Tony Allen was a player I used to really like. His toughness and defense was very good. That string of knee injuries set him way back and I'm not sure he will ever get back to the level he once was. But he's one of those veterans that can help the young Grizzlies.

If Memphis got these three for the #2, Conley, and Jaric, and added Glen Davis as their power forward through free agency then they get four players that have made it to the highest level and know what it takes to win. And none are over the hill. They also know how to play their roles around the stars like Garnett, Pierce, and Ray Allen so joining up with Mayo and Gay shouldn't be a problem.

My only problem is how Perkins and Gasol co-exist if they also got another power forward. But you can never have too much depth.

It_Was_Typed · Post #9 » by **It_Was_Typed** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:16 pm

Clippers wouldn't want Ray Allen to stunt Eric Gordon's growth.

Celtics>Breathing · Post #10 » by **Celtics>Breathing** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:57 pm

It_Was_Typed wrote:Clippers wouldn't want Ray Allen to stunt Eric Gordon's growth.

Let's be clear......Ray Allen in this trade is mainly for financial reasons. He just happens to be a class act. Eric Gordon is a good young player, but if you think he couldn't gain anything from Ray Allen on your team for a year while Gordon comes off the bench your just not thinking it through.

Downtown wrote:Since it was a Celtics(I assume) fan posting this I don't feel bad commenting favorably about it since it favors Memphis. Back when we still had the Sonics I went on record saying Seattle should draft Kenrick Perkins. Instead they took Robert Swift. Big mistake. Aside from his shoulder injury Perkins has been a force for Boston inside and it's that hardnosed defense that has transformed them into a highend team.

Rajon Rondo running the Grizzlies under Lionel Hollins and being the backcourt partner for OJ Mayo looks very good, better than Mike Conley. Rondo is coming into his prime years.

Tony Allen was a player I used to really like. His toughness and defense was very good. That string of knee injuries set him way back and I'm not sure he will ever get back to the level he once was. But he's one of those veterans that can help the young Grizzlies.

If Memphis got these three for the #2, Conley, and Jaric, and added Glen Davis as their power forward through free agency then they get four players that have made it to the highest level and know what it takes to win. And none are over the hill. They also know how to play their roles around the stars like Garnett, Pierce, and Ray Allen so joining up with Mayo and Gay shouldn't be a problem.

My only problem is how Perkins and Gasol co-exist if they also got another power forward. But you can never have too much depth.

Nice post Downtown. I agree that one of the question marks in this trade is the Perkins/Gasol interaction with each other on the basketball court.

Joe Kleazy wrote:
Celtics>Breathing wrote:
GrizzledGrizzFan wrote:I guess the Grizz could sign Glen Davis too and bring in another ring - It's a bit far fetched IMO, but it looks a lot better than the Grizz drafting Thabeet.

You'd need to swindle a deal involving KG and PP for that there championship my friend.

I like this deal, my colleges do not. Will have to see what happens next week. I think it's safe to say something will happen though.

Your use of a word for an educational institution in the place of what you meant here answers my questions for your opening post. The word for today kids is " COLLEAGUES".

Chill Dude, are you like thre3 :wink:

SSUBluesman · Post #11 » by **SSUBluesman** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:26 pm

I didn't find your trade to be quite fair so I adjusted it to add some balance. New additions in bold:

Celtics>Breathing wrote:What do you think Grizz fans?

Boston:

Chris Kamen
Mike Conley
Zach Randolph
#2 pick 2009
O.J. Mayo
2011 unprotected 1st
2013 unprotected 1st

LA Clippers:

Ray Allen
Marco Jaric

Memphis:

Gabe Pruitt
Patrick O'Bryant
Tony Allen

Boston brings on salary but a lot of depth and talent.
Clippers drop salary. Clears way for new franchise player. Brings in some class.
Memphis brings in two young proven players. No lottery bust. Clears salary.

Maybe, just maybe then does Boston do this deal. Not to be critical but I just didn't feel your initial deal gave enough to Boston for what they were giving up.

Downtown · Post #12 » by **Downtown** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:20 pm

Where's our forum mod when we need him. I see this thread turning ugly now that a troll has emerged.

BarbaGrizz · Post #13 » by **BarbaGrizz** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:12 pm

moron

SSUBluesman · Post #14 » by **SSUBluesman** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:40 pm

Downtown wrote:Where's our forum mod when we need him. I see this thread turning ugly now that a troll has emerged.

Yea, NOW it's going to turn ugly...not when someone posts a **** trade offer for the Grizz on their board, but NOW.

JayCarlock · Post #15 » by **JayCarlock** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:06 pm

Whoever is SSUblue, or whatever the heck ur name is, I normally wouldn't tell a stranger this, but.... KILL YOURSELF!!!!!! If u think were going 2 give u guys OJ Mayo for any of them wack a** role players on ur team u got another thing coming. U really are idiot aren't u? Ur the type a guy who plays 2K9 and trade ppl like Scalabrine for Duncan!!!! U need 2 retire from writing posts.

Celtics>Breathing · Post #16 » by **Celtics>Breathing** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:58 am

I didn't realize posting a trade on another teams board was a big deal. I thought it was a fair trade, and just wanted some feedback. Good or bad, but not sarcastic. I thought for Memphis this was a good trade, but maybe not. Rondo, Mayo, Gay, Gasol, Perkins lineup would have a lot of potential. You also would get rid of Jaric's contract. One of my questions would be if Gasol, and Perkins could play together?

SSUBluesman · Post #17 » by **SSUBluesman** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:47 pm

JayCarlock wrote:Whoever is SSUblue, or whatever the heck ur name is, I normally wouldn't tell a stranger this, but.... KILL YOURSELF!!!!!! If u think were going 2 give u guys OJ Mayo for any of them wack a** role players on ur team u got another thing coming. U really are idiot aren't u? Ur the type a guy who plays 2K9 and trade ppl like Scalabrine for Duncan!!!! U need 2 retire from writing posts.

If you're a day over 13 I'll be absolutely shocked...and saddened for the failure of whatever educational institution is responsible for you.

I didn't realize posting a trade on another teams board was a big deal. I thought it was a fair trade, and just wanted some feedback. Good or bad, but not sarcastic. I thought for Memphis this was a good trade, but maybe not. Rondo, Mayo, Gay, Gasol, Perkins lineup would have a lot of potential. You also would get rid of Jaric's contract. One of my questions would be if Gasol, and Perkins could play together?

It's a bad offer. The #2 pick is used for an upgrade from Conley to Rubio (losing Conley in the process as well) and Perkins. This does nothing to address the gaping hole at PF and also adds a player (Rondo) who will be up for an extension shortly. The Clips have absolutely no use for Ray.

360 · Post #18 » by **360** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:08 pm

JayCarlock wrote:Whoever is SSUblue, or whatever the heck ur name is, I normally wouldn't tell a stranger this, but.... KILL YOURSELF!!!!!! If u think were going 2 give u guys OJ Mayo for any of them wack a** role players on ur team u got another thing coming. U really are idiot aren't u? Ur the type a guy who plays 2K9 and trade ppl like Scalabrine for Duncan!!!! U need 2 retire from writing posts.

He was being sarcastic.