Season Opener: Grizzlies(0-0) vs. Timberwolves(0-0)

[SD2042]

Vince Carter's shooting has been atrocious most of this preseason and as well tonight. I think he's done this year and you guys might regret signing him. But at least his contract will come off the books.

So far it's one game, but you're right to be concern. I'm wondering which Vince Carter did this team get. The one that played in Dallas last year or the one that threw up shots when he got trade to Orlando for Courtney Lee a few seasons back? A few more games will tell the difference for me.

[Zordor]

If Vince cant get it together soon, I am afraid the grizzlies might try to package deal him out, I dont really want to see him go unless we are getting a legit guy in return.

[Mr_Basketball]

Vince Carter's shooting has been atrocious most of this preseason and as well tonight. I think he's done this year and you guys might regret signing him. But at least his contract will come off the books.

The problem is gino, you're lying. In the preseason VC shot 41.3% FG (better than he shot last season) and 40% from 3-point range, which is excellent. His true shooting percentage in the preseason was 54.5%, which is good. In fact it's even better than his career average of 53.9%.

Just because you say something gino, doesn't make it true. It just makes you a liar.

[Mr_Basketball]

Vince Carter's shooting has been atrocious most of this preseason and as well tonight. I think he's done this year and you guys might regret signing him. But at least his contract will come off the books.

So far it's one game, but you're right to be concern. I'm wondering which Vince Carter did this team get. The one that played in Dallas last year or the one that threw up shots when he got trade to Orlando for Courtney Lee a few seasons back? A few more games will tell the difference for me.

But VC shot well for Orlando. In his one full season there, he had a true shooting percentage of 54.1%, which is even better than his career average of 53.8%. In his second (partial) season with Orlando, he shot even better: 55.7%. Not only that, but he shot a career-high 47.0% FG in that partial season.

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[Mr_Basketball]

If you guys check gino's post history, you'll see that he's a troll. He follows VC around from team to team bashing him in the forum of every new team he joins. VC shot very well in the preseason (40% from three, 54.5% TS%), yet gino lies and says he shot horribly, hoping nobody will notice that he's lying.

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[SD2042]

Vince Carter's shooting has been atrocious most of this preseason and as well tonight. I think he's done this year and you guys might regret signing him. But at least his contract will come off the books.

So far it's one game, but you're right to be concern. I'm wondering which Vince Carter did this team get. The one that played in Dallas last year or the one that threw up shots when he got trade to Orlando for Courtney Lee a few seasons back? A few more games will tell the difference for me.

But VC shot well for Orlando. In his one full season there, he had a true shooting percentage of 54.1%, which is even better than his career average of 53.8%. In his second (partial) season with Orlando, he shot even better: 55.7%. Not only that, but he shot a career-high 47.0% FG in that partial season.

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http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/1713/career/

I was looking at nba link above. It doesn't show during his two year stint with the Magic that he shot 54.1% in any of the seasons he played. I do see the part where he had the career high 47% of his field goals for his half of season with the Magic.

I watched some of Vince's games with the Magic during his time there. Some games VC did play pretty decent, but there were times where he would jack up shots due to not attempting to attacking the basket at will like he used to do when he was younger. That came with age as he was around 32 at the time. VC had to re-invent himself in order to last longer to this point of his career. Which I would give him credit. Now if VC continues to struggle to get his offense going during the next few games, this could spell trouble for the team in the long term. For now, we'll see if he can find his rhythm within his first few games.

[Klomp]

Congrats on the win, Memphis. You always seem to have our number...even though you barely beat what one of your posters called a DLeague team.

[Mr_Basketball]

So far it's one game, but you're right to be concern. I'm wondering which Vince Carter did this team get. The one that played in Dallas last year or the one that threw up shots when he got trade to Orlando for Courtney Lee a few seasons back? A few more games will tell the difference for me.

But VC shot well for Orlando. In his one full season there, he had a true shooting percentage of 54.1%, which is even better than his career average of 53.8%. In his second (partial) season with Orlando, he shot even better: 55.7%. Not only that, but he shot a career-high 47.0% FG in that partial season.

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http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/1713/career/

I was looking at nba link above. It doesn't show during his two year stint with the Magic that he shot 54.1% in any of the seasons he played. I do see the part where he had the career high 47% of his field goals for his half of season with the Magic.

I watched some of Vince's games with the Magic during his time there. Some games VC did play pretty decent, but there were times where he would jack up shots due to not attempting to attacking the basket at will like he used to do when he was younger. That came with age as he was around 32 at the time. VC had to re-invent himself in order to last longer to this point of his career. Which I would give him credit. Now if VC continues to struggle to get his offense going during the next few games, this could spell trouble for the team in the long term. For now, we'll see if he can find his rhythm within his first few games.

You need to read people's posts before responding. I never said that he shot 54.1%. I said that his TRUE SHOOTING PERCENTAGE with Orlando was 54.1% in his first season, and 55.7% in his second partial season. Both of these numbers are above his career TS% of 53.8%. And they're way above his TS% of 52.6% with the Raptors.

If you don't understand true shooting percentage, I suggest you Google it. The fact that you think he didn't shoot well with Orlando doesn't change the fact that in both of his season's there he scored more efficiently than he has for his career as a whole.

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[Mr_Basketball]

If you want to see VC or other player's true shooting percentages, you can find them on basketball-reference.com

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[Vinsanity_GOAT]

If Vince cant get it together soon, I am afraid the grizzlies might try to package deal him out, I dont really want to see him go unless we are getting a legit guy in return.

The only one who needs to get it together is joerger. I called it in the starters thread, vince doesn't play well in this role. I watched the game last night and it was exactly the same as with the mavs, he wasn't incorporated in the offense. They just give him the ball and expect iso scoring (from a 37yo ) and as you saw that'll usually end up in forced pull-up jumpers of a screen that sometimes fall and most of the time won't. If you'd put him in the starting lineup he can play within the system (cuts, kickouts, pick and rolls, etc) and you'll probably have a 15-3-4 player on good efficiency.

I'm 100% sure that the team would be much better of with lee as the sixth man and that's not a slight towards lee, it's actually a compliment. Lee can bring instant scoring and energy, i could even see him get 6th man of the year.

[bobobolas10]

Either Lee or VC will be starters, Mr Prince is our guy for that role.

[jumivi]

Great win, we need this start! Hopelly if Marc continue to be agressive we are lock for playoffs. About Vince, i think i saw him at the start of the game, in the bench, with "something" on his right foot (ankle), and when i saw him run i didnt see him 100%. I dont worry about him, i hope he´ll be ok in some time. I like the way we move the ball, and we have to box out better.

Go Grizz!

[Zordor]

Ya it could still be his bone spurs (you said you saw something on his foot) and he was limited all offseason and preseason because of it, but you are right, within a week or so hopefully he will be top shape

[Vinsanity_GOAT]

Yeah i saw it as well, and i noticed him limping a couple times. But if it's bone spurs he'll need arthroscopic surgery, that stuff doesn't just go away by itself. He'll miss about a month if that's the case. I wonder why he didn't have the surgery in the off-season, or did he and maybe it failed? If he's playing through it using cortisone shots then it's no wonder he looks sluggish.

At least now i know why he isn't starting.