Grizzlies Trade Thread

[Jamaaliver]

Is there a deal to be made?

Maybe for Mitch Rob and a pick?

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[esvl]

We need a traditional center. Lively almost killed us. Let’s pack Kennard, LaRavia, Clarke and send them for Claxton.

[VCfor3]

How are we feeling about the Butler rumors?

Making money work is tough. Gotta be Smart, Clarke, Kennard, and someone else

[BBallFreak]

How are we feeling about the Butler rumors?

Making money work is tough. Gotta be Smart, Clarke, Kennard, and someone else

Konchar seems to work.

A big four of Jimmy, Ja, JJJ, and Bane is kinda sick, especially since you'd keep Eddy and Aldama. We could send you Kevin Love and Josh Richardson/Alec Burks to help fill in your roster.

I'm just wondering about additional compensation. Draft capital would obviously need to be included but I don't think Jimmy would cost a lot - just a first or two, and not good ones.

[VCfor3]

How are we feeling about the Butler rumors?

Making money work is tough. Gotta be Smart, Clarke, Kennard, and someone else

Konchar seems to work.

A big four of Jimmy, Ja, JJJ, and Bane is kinda sick, especially since you'd keep Eddy and Aldama. We could send you Kevin Love and Josh Richardson/Alec Burks to help fill in your roster.

I'm just wondering about additional compensation. Draft capital would obviously need to be included but I don't think Jimmy would cost a lot - just a first or two, and not good ones.

Konchar works and would allow for additional small salary to come back to Memphis. We also could include a younger guy as incentive. I'm not sure what Smart's value is due to his injury but I could see him doing well in your system. Kennard is useful or could be flipped for 2nds. Clarke has been playing very well and could be flipped for small assets too if you wish. As for compensation, yeah maybe Memphis gives a protected 1st or something and negotiations go from there. The problem is that I don't know if we can actually retain Butler so he may be more of a rental. We also have to feel okay about the off court chemistry. I hate to admit it, but our team already has quite a bit of drama at any given time. Adding Butler to the mix may be rough if he inevitably gets unhappy.

Clarke and Kennard have been great for us, and Clarke and JJJ always have a crazy good plus/minus, but upgrading them to Butler definitely elevates this team at least on paper. Smart has been mostly out and Konchar is luxury bench depth so it isn't a big deal losing them.

[BBallFreak]

How are we feeling about the Butler rumors?

Making money work is tough. Gotta be Smart, Clarke, Kennard, and someone else

Konchar seems to work.

A big four of Jimmy, Ja, JJJ, and Bane is kinda sick, especially since you'd keep Eddy and Aldama. We could send you Kevin Love and Josh Richardson/Alec Burks to help fill in your roster.

I'm just wondering about additional compensation. Draft capital would obviously need to be included but I don't think Jimmy would cost a lot - just a first or two, and not good ones.

Konchar works and would allow for additional small salary to come back to Memphis. We also could include a younger guy as incentive. I'm not sure what Smart's value is due to his injury but I could see him doing well in your system. Kennard is useful or could be flipped for 2nds. Clarke has been playing very well and could be flipped for small assets too if you wish. As for compensation, yeah maybe Memphis gives a protected 1st or something and negotiations go from there. The problem is that I don't know if we can actually retain Butler so he may be more of a rental. We also have to feel okay about the off court chemistry. I hate to admit it, but our team already has quite a bit of drama at any given time. Adding Butler to the mix may be rough if he inevitably gets unhappy.

Clarke and Kennard have been great for us, and Clarke and JJJ always have a crazy good plus/minus, but upgrading them to Butler definitely elevates this team at least on paper. Smart has been mostly out and Konchar is luxury bench depth so it isn't a big deal losing them.

Thank you for that response. I agree and empathize. I can tell you that Jimmy playing happy will help your team gel. That's what he does. Unfortunately, being happy for Jimmy is all about $$$ and he wants his extension. If you give him one that he can be comfortable with and you can to, you'll get the best of him when it matters the most. In the playoffs, he will elevate you.

I think what most Heat fans are expecting is a lot of the players and picks in question to be flipped to New Orleans for Brandon Ingram, giving us a third scorer in our lineup.

[jefe]

How are we feeling about the Butler rumors?

Making money work is tough. Gotta be Smart, Clarke, Kennard, and someone else

In a salary cap vacuum, I like the idea of adding Butler to this roster; however, the team doesn't operate in a salary cap vacuum, and the idea of either 1) getting Butler as a half-year rental or 2) sentencing ourselves to long term cap/apron hell (assuming that we will retain JJJ at market value when his current contract is up) to add Butler long term both seem like bad options.

I suppose that the first scenario is more palatable than the second if we can reach an agreement on an appropriate price that doesn't entirely gut our depth and/or mortgage our entire draft future. Unless Butler is willing to sign a "team friendly" extension with us, then the second scenario is potentially a team killer that costs Kleiman his job in a couple of years if it backfires (as it inevitably would IMO).

[WentzerWuver]

How are we feeling about the Butler rumors?

Making money work is tough. Gotta be Smart, Clarke, Kennard, and someone else

Jimmy refused to be traded to the Grizzlies.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-rumors-grizzlies-among-teams-told-not-to-trade-for-jimmy-butler

They would be serious playoff contenders with Jimmy.

[jefe]

How are we feeling about the Butler rumors?

Making money work is tough. Gotta be Smart, Clarke, Kennard, and someone else

Jimmy refused to be traded to the Grizzlies.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-rumors-grizzlies-among-teams-told-not-to-trade-for-jimmy-butler

They would be serious playoff contenders with Jimmy.

The Grizz are already serious playoff contenders without his old ass.

[WentzerWuver]

How are we feeling about the Butler rumors?

Making money work is tough. Gotta be Smart, Clarke, Kennard, and someone else

Jimmy refused to be traded to the Grizzlies.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-rumors-grizzlies-among-teams-told-not-to-trade-for-jimmy-butler

They would be serious playoff contenders with Jimmy.

The Grizz are already serious playoff contenders without his old ass.

If you can't compete with the C's in a 7 games series, then you are not a serious contender. Jimmy would change that like pronto!

https://youtu.be/yiwYQwytC_M?si=01mrlFLVxcBCWyj4

Trust me...

[SD2042]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/key-memphis-grizzlies-trade-deadline-question/ar-BB1rhK6W?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=0f90ed8c03604f91be15f5a03989ac95&ei=8

This report asks the question that in spite of the Grizzlies current run in the playoff race so far, do they benefit from making a move to help better their chances for a title run for the upcoming playoff season. Who's to say. They have the best chemistry going on in this current run. Maybe banged up at times. They at least are in the top five on both ends of the floor. Could a move the Grizzlies can make prove to be the right move to hit the stride to a title run? If so, who could the Grizzlies consider as that right move to make?

[VCfor3]

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[esvl]

Guys

Can we offer DFS full MLE in the offseason?

[Tripod]

Would Memphis ever consider going for the upgrade at C the next 2 years to try and win a Championship?

Poeltl+Mitchell for Edey+Smart

Contract wise, Smarts money just gets moved to Yak for next year. Mitchell is a RFA so can re-sign him if they want.

On the court, Memphis gets the experienced vet at C who can play 30 mins a night while still giving them everything Edey can. Yak is better now, in a few years that could change. But it's about going for the Championship now.

In Mitchell Memphis gets that POA PG good defender which Smart is as well. But he is healthier, cheaper and younger.

It's similar to when ghe Raps traded Valanciunas for Gasol to go for a Championship. It was risky, but worth it in the end.

Raps get a younger C since they are rebuilding and look to trade Smart in another deal at some point

[esvl]

Would Memphis ever consider going for the upgrade at C the next 2 years to try and win a Championship?

Poeltl+Mitchell for Edey+Smart

Contract wise, Smarts money just gets moved to Yak for next year. Mitchell is a RFA so can re-sign him if they want.

On the court, Memphis gets the experienced vet at C who can play 30 mins a night while still giving them everything Edey can. Yak is better now, in a few years that could change. But it's about going for the Championship now.

In Mitchell Memphis gets that POA PG good defender which Smart is as well. But he is healthier, cheaper and younger.

It's similar to when ghe Raps traded Valanciunas for Gasol to go for a Championship. It was risky, but worth it in the end.

Raps get a younger C since they are rebuilding and look to trade Smart in another deal at some point

Edey is a legitimate starting centre at his 4th month as a rookie. The chances that he will be better than Poeltl next year are way more than 50%. For 6 mln per year. He is already tougher and stronger which is critical for PO games.

I don’t want even to start on your evaluation of Smart.

Any hey… psss… Mitchell has 0 value.

[jefe]

Would Memphis ever consider going for the upgrade at C the next 2 years to try and win a Championship?

Poeltl+Mitchell for Edey+Smart

Contract wise, Smarts money just gets moved to Yak for next year. Mitchell is a RFA so can re-sign him if they want.

On the court, Memphis gets the experienced vet at C who can play 30 mins a night while still giving them everything Edey can. Yak is better now, in a few years that could change. But it's about going for the Championship now.

In Mitchell Memphis gets that POA PG good defender which Smart is as well. But he is healthier, cheaper and younger.

It's similar to when ghe Raps traded Valanciunas for Gasol to go for a Championship. It was risky, but worth it in the end.

Raps get a younger C since they are rebuilding and look to trade Smart in another deal at some point

Likely ignorance on my part, but Poeltl doesn't really move the needle for me. He's just sorta been there in the league for 9 years now and never really seemed to do much of note

[SD2042]

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/nba/grizzlies-could-add-star-forward-west-rival-before-trade-deadline-2020939

What do some of you think of the idea of adding SF Brandon Ingram to the roster?

To me, it would be a rental and a wrong move to make. A rental as he's on the last year of his deal. He's truly a fourth option on this team with his skills set on offense.. A wrong move due to that that he's looking for a bigger pay day than the Grizzlies can afford to give him.

[jefe]

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/nba/grizzlies-could-add-star-forward-west-rival-before-trade-deadline-2020939

What do some of you think of the idea of adding SF Brandon Ingram to the roster?

To me, it would be a rental and a wrong move to make. A rental as he's on the last year of his deal. He's truly a fourth option on this team with his skills set on offense.. A wrong move due to that that he's looking for a bigger pay day than the Grizzlies can afford to give him.

Include Santi and our 2025 first rounder for a rental? Pass.

[SD2042]

I've been following the rumors involving Cam Johnson to the Grizzlies business. I can see what Cam would bring to the Grizzlies as far as perimeter shooting and defense is concerned. He's on a reasonable contract. My thoughts are that the Grizzlies are already set at SF on both ends. If they do acquire Cam, they made that decision based on what he's bringing to the table better than what's current with the Grizzlies small forward core.

[jefe]

Herrington brought up an interesting proposal that he was clear to indicate was simply his wish and not any rumor. If the Warriors re-enter the hunt for Jimmy Butler and the Heat liked what the Grizz had to offer, then why not be the third-team to facilitate that trade if we can nab Andrew Wiggins?

I tend to think that we need a big body bruiser/rebounder type more so than another wing, but if we want a wing, then Wiggins would seem to fit what we're looking for -- bigger, three point threat, slashing threat, and good defensive player. Ultimately, it would come down to the asking price IMO.