Grizzlies Trade Thread

[SD2042]

Herrington brought up an interesting proposal that he was clear to indicate was simply his wish and not any rumor. If the Warriors re-enter the hunt for Jimmy Butler and the Heat liked what the Grizz had to offer, then why not be the third-team to facilitate that trade if we can nab Andrew Wiggins?

I tend to think that we need a big body bruiser/rebounder type more so than another wing, but if we want a wing, then Wiggins would seem to fit what we're looking for -- bigger, three point threat, slashing threat, and good defensive player. Ultimately, it would come down to the asking price IMO.

A co-worker of mines mentioned a big body for the Grizzlies to acquire. I wonder who is available for the Grizzlies to get after.

Also, I can't help but to wonder if the Grizzlies will pull a move for financial purposes. The reason why I'm thinking this way is because 3J's will be entering the last year of his contract after this season is done. We obviously don't know what the extension numbers will be. Given what the Grizzlies may do, they will put themselves in position not to risk landing in the second apron if they can help it. If such a move happens, it would not surprise.

[SD2042]

What are some of y'all thoughts about the insane trade of Luka Doncic going to the Lakers as of last night? That has to be one of the most mind blowing trades in recent NBA history. A generational player of his calibur going to the Lakers for AD, Max Christie, and one first round pick. The move speaks to the future post LeBron era when he retires from the game. There are lots of questions behind this move. Did the new CBA played a role into the move? Did the Luka ecentric system gravitated to a breakdown for the Mavericks? I'm aware the Mavs were questioning Luka's commitment to extending with the Mavericks and keep his conditioning up. Who knows. This trade puts the shock on the NBA landscape.

[esvl]

What are some of y'all thoughts about the insane trade of Luka Doncic going to the Lakers as of last night? That has to be one of the most mind blowing trades in recent NBA history. A generational player of his calibur going to the Lakers for AD, Max Christie, and one first round pick. The move speaks to the future post LeBron era when he retires from the game. There are lots of questions behind this move. Did the new CBA played a role into the move? Did the Luka ecentric system gravitated to a breakdown for the Mavericks? I'm aware the Mavs were questioning Luka's commitment to extending with the Mavericks and keep his conditioning up. Who knows. This trade puts the shock on the NBA landscape.

The most feasible explanation is a “non-basketball” trade mainly due to two facts: that it was done under the table and that 10 years timeline was exchanged for 2 years timeline.

[esvl]

Lonzo Ball for Marcus Smart straight?

[VCfor3]

What are some of y'all thoughts about the insane trade of Luka Doncic going to the Lakers as of last night? That has to be one of the most mind blowing trades in recent NBA history. A generational player of his calibur going to the Lakers for AD, Max Christie, and one first round pick. The move speaks to the future post LeBron era when he retires from the game. There are lots of questions behind this move. Did the new CBA played a role into the move? Did the Luka ecentric system gravitated to a breakdown for the Mavericks? I'm aware the Mavs were questioning Luka's commitment to extending with the Mavericks and keep his conditioning up. Who knows. This trade puts the shock on the NBA landscape.

I feel like you could squint your eyes and justify moving Luka if you wanted to (though it'll be very hard after leading the team deep into the playoffs like he has), but if you are going to move them then there is ZERO excuse for getting such a poor return. Knecht and the other 1st had to be included at a minimum so that you could at least say "we really wanted AD and got everything we could". Even with that though, you have to canvas the league and see what else is out there. You should get the largest return in the history of the NBA for moving such a high value asset, and they didn't even ask or try.

[VCfor3]

Lonzo Ball for Marcus Smart straight?

I was kinda wondering if it would be something like that.

[VCfor3]

So a few rumors I've seen of late:

-Miami asked for our young guys in a potential Butler deal and we said no
-We are still involved in Cam Johnson
-We have shown interest in Lonzo Ball
-We have been pretty active in seeing what deals we can get that involve Smart

[esvl]

So a few rumors I've seen of late:

-Miami asked for our young guys in a potential Butler deal and we said no
-We are still involved in Cam Johnson
-We have shown interest in Lonzo Ball
-We have been pretty active in seeing what deals we can get that involve Smart

What are your thoughts on Cam J.?

From both cap and BB perspectives.

[VCfor3]

So a few rumors I've seen of late:

-Miami asked for our young guys in a potential Butler deal and we said no
-We are still involved in Cam Johnson
-We have shown interest in Lonzo Ball
-We have been pretty active in seeing what deals we can get that involve Smart

What are your thoughts on Cam J.?

From both cap and BB perspectives.

I'm for it if it is something based around Smart. Maybe try to toss in Konchar or LaRavia if they see it as minor (late 2nd) value to get off a little extra salary and open up a roster spot if we think we may be active on the buyout market (center depth?). Then add our unprotected 1st this year and maybe a decently protected 2027 1st and it is fine. I'll never complain about more big wings that can shoot. That said, him and Santi are pretty similar though Cam is a little better so I'm not terribly upset if we don't get him. I also think Cam will be able to maintain a lot of his value so could still be a useful player to put into future trades if needed.

[esvl]

So a few rumors I've seen of late:

-Miami asked for our young guys in a potential Butler deal and we said no
-We are still involved in Cam Johnson
-We have shown interest in Lonzo Ball
-We have been pretty active in seeing what deals we can get that involve Smart

What are your thoughts on Cam J.?

From both cap and BB perspectives.

I'm for it if it is something based around Smart. Maybe try to toss in Konchar or LaRavia if they see it as minor (late 2nd) value to get off a little extra salary and open up a roster spot if we think we may be active on the buyout market (center depth?). Then add our unprotected 1st this year and maybe a decently protected 2027 1st and it is fine. I'll never complain about more big wings that can shoot. That said, him and Santi are pretty similar though Cam is a little better so I'm not terribly upset if we don't get him. I also think Cam will be able to maintain a lot of his value so could still be a useful player to put into future trades if needed.

I dunno. He is not a good defender unlike LRV, not a significantly better shooter than our current guys, he would keep LRV/GG/Aldama on the bench, he would eat our cap space, so we might lose Aldama. I have been struggling to convince myself to feel happy about this idea.

[psman2]

What are your thoughts on Cam J.?

From both cap and BB perspectives.

I'm for it if it is something based around Smart. Maybe try to toss in Konchar or LaRavia if they see it as minor (late 2nd) value to get off a little extra salary and open up a roster spot if we think we may be active on the buyout market (center depth?). Then add our unprotected 1st this year and maybe a decently protected 2027 1st and it is fine. I'll never complain about more big wings that can shoot. That said, him and Santi are pretty similar though Cam is a little better so I'm not terribly upset if we don't get him. I also think Cam will be able to maintain a lot of his value so could still be a useful player to put into future trades if needed.

I dunno. He is not a good defender unlike LRV, not a significantly better shooter than our current guys, he would keep LRV/GG/Aldama on the bench, he would eat our cap space, so we might lose Aldama. I have been struggling to convince myself to feel happy about this idea.

No point if keeping Aldama if we trade for CamJ. Majority of his minutes will be gone. If we could trade Aldama/2025 1st and Smart for Johnson that is something I could get behind but I'm still not excited about. If I ran the ship I would just pass, I think Aldama will just as good as him within a year and likely come in some 10m a year cheaper. We do run the risk of a team making a high RFA offer on Aldama but that is something I can live with. CamJ is too weak on D and rebounding to pay the asking price imo.

[esvl]

I'm for it if it is something based around Smart. Maybe try to toss in Konchar or LaRavia if they see it as minor (late 2nd) value to get off a little extra salary and open up a roster spot if we think we may be active on the buyout market (center depth?). Then add our unprotected 1st this year and maybe a decently protected 2027 1st and it is fine. I'll never complain about more big wings that can shoot. That said, him and Santi are pretty similar though Cam is a little better so I'm not terribly upset if we don't get him. I also think Cam will be able to maintain a lot of his value so could still be a useful player to put into future trades if needed.

I dunno. He is not a good defender unlike LRV, not a significantly better shooter than our current guys, he would keep LRV/GG/Aldama on the bench, he would eat our cap space, so we might lose Aldama. I have been struggling to convince myself to feel happy about this idea.

No point if keeping Aldama if we trade for CamJ. Majority of his minutes will be gone. If we could trade Aldama/2025 1st and Smart for Johnson that is something I could get behind but I'm still not excited about. If I ran the ship I would just pass, I think Aldama will just as good as him within a year and likely come in some 10m a year cheaper. We do run the risk of a team making a high RFA offer on Aldama but that is something I can live with. CamJ is too weak on D and rebounding to pay the asking price imo.

I share these sentiments. In my view, Aldama still has significant upside (including the defensive side), while Cam J. has none. He is just a slightly better version of Kuzma/JV type of players. His place is in the Wizards.

[jefe]

This front office doesn't make mid-season trades for personnel, they only make them for financial moves. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but the only mid-season trade that we've made for an actual player was Justice Winslow.

[SD2042]

This front office doesn't make mid-season trades for personnel, they only make them for financial moves. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but the only mid-season trade that we've made for an actual player was Justice Winslow.

Justice Winslow was one of the players I did not want back when the trade happened between both teams. His development plus him missing games hinder his growth as a player. Thus him not working out for the Grizzlies.

The last two deadlines did focus on financial moves. We have to keep in mind of the aprons that are very active. These teams have proven to do whatever they have to in order to avoid the aprons, especially the second apron. The Grizzlies throughout the seasons have been about financial flexibility. Which is a good thing to do as far as being fiscally responsible is concern. This will likely continue not just for the Grizzlies, but for other teams around the league. Thankfully, this team does not kiss the second apron like Phoenix and Denver have to do.

[esvl]

I see Bagley serviceable. To give Ja a lob catcher/finisher who, unlike Clarke, can play above the rim and, unlike current Edey, has above average hands.

[jefe]

This front office doesn't make mid-season trades for personnel, they only make them for financial moves. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but the only mid-season trade that we've made for an actual player was Justice Winslow.

Justice Winslow was one of the players I did not want back when the trade happened between both teams. His development plus him missing games hinder his growth as a player. Thus him not working out for the Grizzlies.

The last two deadlines did focus on financial moves. We have to keep in mind of the aprons that are very active. These teams have proven to do whatever they have to in order to avoid the aprons, especially the second apron. The Grizzlies throughout the seasons have been about financial flexibility. Which is a good thing to do as far as being fiscally responsible is concern. This will likely continue not just for the Grizzlies, but for other teams around the league. Thankfully, this team does not kiss the second apron like Phoenix and Denver have to do.

I get where you're coming from, but we've demonstrated that we're not going into the luxury tax let alone near the first or second apron - at least at this time. It's clear that receiving the luxury tax payout versus being a luxury tax paying team is a very big concern for us.

[dobrojim]

Wiz fan visiting. What can you say about Colby?

I don't remember seeing him play.
I assume end of bench guy.

[esvl]

Wiz fan visiting. What can you say about Colby?

I don't remember seeing him play.
I assume end of bench guy.

You might want to check what was his previous team.

[VCfor3]

It sounds like we may have offered our 25 1st and Smart for Lonzo Ball and Chicago declined.

[esvl]

It sounds like we may have offered our 25 1st and Smart for Lonzo Ball and Chicago declined.

I can explain this only that we also asked for their 2nd (which I assume is not to far from our 1st) and that apparently cap space has become a high commodity. I would do that trade in a heartbeat.