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Hey Grizz fans, a friend an I were talking about how much bulls**t the Antawn Jamison to CLE trade was considering Ilgauskas signed back with the Cavs...essentially the Cavs traded the Wizards the rights to a NOBODY and a first rounder this year (which will be about the 30th pick of the draft).

My friend is trying to argue that the Lakers/Grizzlies trade was as bad, but when you start to add up all the pieces that the Grizzlies have put together from that trade, it actually turned out to be a great move.

I was wondering if anyone has a list of the players the Grizzlies have eventually obtained from that move...of course Marc Gasol was included in the deal, but who have the Grizzlies acquired from the other draft picks and the eventual trades of Kwame Brown and Javaris Crittenton? There was a visual during a Laker game earlier in the season and I want to say Ronnie Brewer and Darrell Arthur were on the list...Anyone know?

Marc Gasol was included in the original deal

Zach Randolph was attained with the cap space Memphis got with Kwame's expiring.

Darrell Arthur was acquired with the 2008 Lakers' pick, which was included in the original deal, as well as a 2009 2nd round pick.

Ronnie Brewer was acquired for our 2011 1st round draft pick (lottery protected), which Memphis got back from Washington in exchange for Javaris Crittenton, who was part of the original trade.

In short, Memphis got Marc Gasol, Zach Randolph, Ronnie Brewer, Darrell Arthur, and they have one more piece coming in with the Lakers' 2010 1st round pick.

It's certainly not the lopsided trade we all once thought it was.

Additionally, without the cap space from the Pau deal, the Grizz likely wouldn't have had all they needed to acquire OJ Mayo either.

Pau´s trade was a steal...for us.

I'm still suprised that Marc Gasol has been as good as he is. Pau didn't want to be a Grizzlie anymore and the Grizzlies had to make a trade that looked horrible at the time, but as it moves on it gets better and better.

My favorite part was that the Lakers signed and traded, then, volunteer assistant Aaron Mckie to a contract to make the deal work.

Who would've thought that a horrible trade at the time would turn out to be very beneficial in the Grizz favor. Things like this really show how much we can see into the future. I'm just glad that the trade itself is starting to play off a bit. We have to continue to get better especially if this team wishes to get back into playoff contention come next season.

Why didn't Memphis have their own 2nd rounder in 2007? They had the first pick of the 2nd round, but Seattle used it to take Carl Landry.

cbrown32 wrote:Hey Grizz fans, a friend an I were talking about how much bulls**t the Antawn Jamison to CLE trade was considering Ilgauskas signed back with the Cavs...essentially the Cavs traded the Wizards the rights to a NOBODY and a first rounder this year (which will be about the 30th pick of the draft).

My friend is trying to argue that the Lakers/Grizzlies trade was as bad, but when you start to add up all the pieces that the Grizzlies have put together from that trade, it actually turned out to be a great move.

Not here to troll, just a few points. You say that both trades are BS at face value, but admit that the Gasol trade worked out. Why call the AJ trade BS without giving the same timeframe? Jamison is nowhere near the player Pau Gasol was! The Cavs' foreigner that was traded could blossom like Marc Gasol. Teams weren't burning the phone lines trying to aquire him. And who knows who will be drafted with our pick? Or the cap room WAS saves.

The Grizzlies made out well, but they also got lucky in a way. All of the dominoes had to fall. Gasol had to develop an American game. They had to draft Arthur, trade for Mayo, sign Randolph, etc. all on their own. It wasn't in the fine print of the trade that they would draft properly and spend their extra cash wisely, if at all. If they had drafted BUSTS- people wouldn't think the trade looked so good. Props to the Grizz for a great year and for coming out smelling like roses.