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Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:17 pm
by jman3134
With a 12-17 record, the Grizzlies appear ready to trade Hasheem Thabeet in order to immediately improve their club.

Griz general manager Chris Wallace declined to discuss potential deals and said the team's trade activity has been overstated.


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Even I know that this is not going to turn their season around. What a joke.

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:44 pm
by dark-child
A dose of realism has hit the Grizz organization and it only took a mere five hundred plus days, which is the number of days the brilliant idea of drafting a project was put forth to now.

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:47 pm
by dark-child
The next news flash is Thabeet could not bring anything back to help the team so we had to make a larger deal that included either Zach or OJ Mayo.

Get ready because the white noise is just beginning.

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:04 pm
by GrizzledGrizzFan
"Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet"

In other news...

"League prepared to laugh and hang up on Grizzlies"

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:23 pm
by Rapsobsessed7
i feel like the Raptors would take a chance on Thabeet. You guys had scouts at our games apparently so something has to be up. Its odd that the director of pro scouting would be at 2 of our home games...

anyways what would you want for Toronto?

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:42 pm
by ThreeYearPlan
I hope not. His value right now is washed up veteran, heavily protected 1st round or 2nd round picks. That would also mean that they'd probably want to keep Gasol at all costs, sounds horrible

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:23 pm
by StrawberryShake
How would you guys feel if the heat traded eddie house, jamal magloire and juwan howard for thabeet?
I'm a heat fan and im intrested in what kind of fit thabeet would be on our team. we need a big post presence thats not ancient like dampier and Big Z and thabeets only 23 plus hes 7'3 and can block shots. Problem is hes pretty skinny and hasnt played alot

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:30 pm
by I Am Awesome-O
^ A useless asset with some potential for a bunch of washed up useless assets? Yeah, no thanks.

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:41 pm
by GrizzledGrizzFan
MayoisMemphis wrote:That would also mean that they'd probably want to keep Gasol at all costs


Keeping Gasol at all costs is likely the case no matter whether or not remains with the team.

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:38 pm
by jman3134
I Am Awesome-O wrote:^ A useless asset with some potential for a bunch of washed up useless assets? Yeah, no thanks.


I'm with you on this, my man. At the very least, maybe we can deal for another potential guy.


That would also mean that they'd probably want to keep Gasol at all costs


I certainly hope not. Every player should be expendable imo with the exception of maybe Rudy. But, with the way he has played lately, he is making a strong case for getting on the trade list in my eyes.

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 4:16 pm
by jefe
This is the right move, for the wrong reason, at the wrong time. How much is Thabeet - the guy who plays 8-10 minutes every third game - responsible for the Grizz's struggles this year?

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:31 pm
by Downtown
I agree.

It definitely isn't Thabeets fault they are where they are. Gasol hasn't played up to last years standard, Mayo has seemingly been a slump all season so far, Conley looks like he is playig better but in reality he isn't making his teamates or team better as the floor general, Gay has been marginally better but can't put the team on his shoulders, and only Randolph has kept his career standards. The bench has yet again let them down. So it's not like they can say let's get equal value for Thabeet and our issues will be solved, or at least improved.

So the question is if they do deal Thabeet, what will they get in return that will help them become better? Is there a backup center, or combo center/power forward that will give them stability, defence, and some bench scoring? I don't see teams dealing that kind of player for Thabeet.

Is memphis just ready go give up completely and take back a draft pick in return for some salary savings? Where does that get them? Nowhere but where they currently are.

It's a dilema for sure and it will be interesting to see what having the #2 overall pick in the 2009 draft ultimately yields them. My opinion, like the majority I'm sure, is that they wasted the best opportunity they had in years and it will hurt them for quite a while.

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 2:05 am
by ThreeYearPlan
I don't think the #2 pick was that much of a wasted opportunity, it's disappointing that you don't get something good but it doesn't seem like a franchise killer. I mean, you list the names of the players who they could've gotten and I don't think anybody would've made the difference for the Grizzlies to get to the playoffs. The only guy that would've truly changed the Grizzlies fortunes was picked #1. The biggest things that have hurt them the most in the last couple of years is drafting Mayo and no doubt having the intentions to develop him into a combo guard but then hiring a staunch supporter of Conley in Hollins. Another thing that hurt was trading for Zach Randolph. I'm pretty sure the FO wanted to try the Gasol/Thabeet frontcourt but trading for Z-Bo pretty much destroyed Thabeet's development because it made the team competitive and took away a lot of minutes from him.

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 6:35 am
by Rapsobsessed7
Reggie Evans + Miami 2011 1st for Hasheem Thabeet + Memphis 2nd

You could also add a Wright for Allen swap which would save you 9.1 million next year. This deal saves you 5.1 while moving up in the draft. Maybe add Alabi in the original deal?

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:23 pm
by jefe
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:Reggie Evans + Miami 2011 1st for Hasheem Thabeet + Memphis 2nd

You could also add a Wright for Allen swap which would save you 9.1 million next year. This deal saves you 5.1 while moving up in the draft. Maybe add Alabi in the original deal?


Trading Thabeet for cap relief alone is a non-starter IMO. He holds more value sitting on our bench and attempting to develop his potential in practice than simply being moved for minimal cap relief.

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:15 am
by Rapsobsessed7
jefe wrote:
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:Reggie Evans + Miami 2011 1st for Hasheem Thabeet + Memphis 2nd

You could also add a Wright for Allen swap which would save you 9.1 million next year. This deal saves you 5.1 while moving up in the draft. Maybe add Alabi in the original deal?


Trading Thabeet for cap relief alone is a non-starter IMO. He holds more value sitting on our bench and attempting to develop his potential in practice than simply being moved for minimal cap relief.


Minimal? How so. Grizz save a good amount of money in that deal especially with the Wright/Allen swap i proposed, the total savings would be 8,277,720 which goes a long way to keeping Mayo/Gasol/Randolph.

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:52 pm
by dookieguy
Yeah, Evans/Wright/1st for Thabeet/Allen isn't that bad. Grizz pick up a vet backup big, save a ton to resign Juice/Gasol/Randolph, and pick up an inexpensive rookie next season.

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:15 pm
by jefe
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:
jefe wrote:
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:Reggie Evans + Miami 2011 1st for Hasheem Thabeet + Memphis 2nd

You could also add a Wright for Allen swap which would save you 9.1 million next year. This deal saves you 5.1 while moving up in the draft. Maybe add Alabi in the original deal?


Trading Thabeet for cap relief alone is a non-starter IMO. He holds more value sitting on our bench and attempting to develop his potential in practice than simply being moved for minimal cap relief.


Minimal? How so. Grizz save a good amount of money in that deal especially with the Wright/Allen swap i proposed, the total savings would be 8,277,720 which goes a long way to keeping Mayo/Gasol/Randolph.


Obviously, Thabeet's value is very low right now - but it's not at a salary dump level IMO. If the Grizz are going to deal Thabeet (or make any other roster move at this point), they're looking for an asset in return, not a salary dump. That's all I'm saying, and it's an opinion - agree or disagree, but deal with it either way.

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:25 pm
by Houston Suns
What would be a good deal from the hornets for thabeet to yall??
Straight up swap Ariza for Thabeet?? Banks or green + future 1st for thabeet??

Re: Grizzlies prepared to deal Thabeet?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:35 pm
by mattlanta
I would like the Hawks to take a chance on Thabeet. He's a legitimate project, and he can easily learn behind Horford, Smith, and Pachulia. But I'm not sure if we have the pieces to trade for him. Would a first round pick be enough you guys think? I know it says the Grizzlies are looking for immediate help, but I'm not sure if the Hawks would have that.