Draft day Deals and FA
Posted: Mon Jun 1, 2015 7:13 pm
Would love to hear what kinds of draft day deals you think will happen for all teams, and FA signings, but I will break down one Grizzlies Scenario.
This is one I thought if Memphis were to make a draft day deal this wouldnt be completely bad.
So Memphis lets Calathes go, retain Jeff Green and Udrih and let's say Leur is retained, but Jamychal Green and Stokes are both retained on incredibly low deals (bout 800k each, which i think is actually not far off what they were offered). Carter gets a declined role and say Udrih doesnt come back off his foot surgery so well so he gets a declined role as well. Koufos leaves in FA. So let's look at Memphis' roster Pre-Draft
Conley/Smith/Udrih
Lee/Adams/ Carter
Allen/Jeff Green
Z-Bo/Jamychal Green/Stokes
Gasol/ Leur
and the 25th pick
Total Players on Roster: 13+1 Draft pick
Needs by Position: SF/PF/C
Needs by Skills: Floor Spacing, Length, Athletcism, Coachability, high PER
Needs by Concerns: PG because of Injuries, PF/C because of Depth, Currently playing players out of position/out of play style
An outlook at the current FA market:
FA concerns: Low money available, small market, non-traditional team/play style, low volume of available minutes
FA plus: friendly atmosphere, can hide defensive deficiencies, top team in the West, many veterans
Positions with highest likelihood of signing per FA +/- in order: SG/PF/PG
Most commonly seen FA prospect's attributes: Good Outside shooting / poor defense / undersized/ role players
Trade Proposal:
Atlanta Drafts Sam Dekker at 15
Memphis trades: Courtney Lee + Jon Leur to Atlanta for Sam Dekker + 59th Pick in 2015 Draft
Why for Atlanta? They get the Veteran Courtney Lee who can round out their wing rotation and might be useful to have depending on how the Carroll situation goes in FA, but can still be a solid 6th man for the Hawks and help propel them back into the Eastern Conference Finals and get them closer to the level the Cavs are on, and Leur helps to round out the roster with a fringe rotational big man who can come in handy if one of their players gets injured and is what the Hawks were looking to target in the draft.
Why for Memphis? Memphis retains the 25th pick and now the 59th pick in a deep draft, but the real prize is Sam Dekker who is a versatile true SF on the wing, he is a consistent outside threat, but has more intangibles to offer than simply being a role player on the team in the long term. He is a high upside player with his main "hidden" attributes being a crafty defensive presence who can defend everything from slower more physical PG using his length (Irving, Westbrook, guys Conley has trouble guarding) to even having the length and physicality to guard most PF and he is a keen ball handler on offense. He is coming from a situation where he had a great passing C (kaminsky, we have Gasol) and fits our current system really well. He has also been working on his Athleticism lately and should be an easily coachable player with a low ego and can both space the floor and slash, also a good transition finisher and rebounder. Oh and did I mention his PER of almost 25? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3wKGGX2BTY if you want to see video. This also opens up a bit of cap space to keep us out of the Luxury and gives us a couple cheap long term contracts going into big cap years.
Memphis selects Rakeem Christmas with the 25th pick (If Upshaw is not avaliable)
Memphis selects Josh Richardson with the 59th pick
Why for Memphis in draft picks? Christmas/Upshaw are very good off the bench role players at the C/PF spot to soak up the left minutes by Koufos, Christmas can fit in Memphis' system because he and Upshaw are both good above the rim defenders and the questions about how Christmas' defensive game will translate to the NBA from the zone run in Syracuse is not a problem in Memphis, because even though Memphis runs help defense a lot, just sit Christmas or Upshaw in the middle of the lane like they are used to from College and just get them to defend the rim because Memphis has the defensive ability to man the perimeter well enough that either of those guys should be able to get an ample amount of blocks and contested shots on defense, and both of their offensive games need polishing, but they are each physically ready to play for a physical banging team like memphis and might be able to strengthen their offensive game that way by getting away with a bit more physicallity.
Josh Richardson is a 3-D 6'5" SG/PG prospect out of UT, past teammate of Jarnell Stokes. Joeger seemed really intrigued by him in his recent workout for memphis and its not far fetched to pick up a guy who can pick up the role of a reserved for injury ball handler like Calathes, but unlike Calathes I believe Richardson has better ball handling and shooting skills over Calathes, and slightly better defense. Where he is lacking a bit is in BBIQ when it comes to passing and he has little to no inside game, but I think being around a veteran like carter and such who all have great BBIQ, he will be able to develop mentally away from his deficiencies, a good pickup at the end of the draft who can play in the D-League until needed, more of an extremely cheap insurance policy for Conley and Udrih. The good thing is he is very likable and coachable and seems to really respect the Memphis organization.
Roster Pre-FA:
Conley/Smith/Udrih/Richardson
Allen/Adams/Carter
Dekker/Jeff Green
Z-Bo/Jamychal Green/Stokes
Gasol/Christmas(or Upshaw)
Total Players: 14
So we can get 1 FA
Let's say Oden doesnt make the team, these are some of the best prospects we can get out of FA at MLE that make the most sense, in order.
1. Bass (PF)- floor spacing Bigman and a veteran
2. Marco Bellinelli (SG) - great behind the arc shooter that can space the floor and allow memphis to get more 3s
3. Andrea Bargnani (C/PF) - Good veteran floor spacing bigman who is still a bit undervalued and can play important spot minutes on a contending team.
4. Jonas Jerebko (personally rather try out Jamychal Green more, PF/SF) - Floor Spacing Bigman who is inconsistent at times
5. Javale McGee (C) - After a few bad years he should have a low price tag and could be a decent cheap 4th option in the font court
6. Jason Smith (PF/C) - Good all around bigman who can come off the bench and give meaningful minutes in spot minutes
7. Omri Casspi (SF) - Good all around shooter and can be a solid and cheap option on the wing
8. Quincy Acy (PF/SF) - Overall hasnt shown much in the NBA, but he is effective at crashing the boards and can be a helpful role player if they can get him in shape and quick enough to play the SF position full time.
9. Wesley Johnson (SF/SG) - He has been on the downturn lately, but I still think he has good ability to come in and hit key shots down the stretch, he would be a cheap option we could hold in reserve
10. Joe Ingles (SF) - Who Memphis really should have considered signing last year in the offseason, he is a solid contributor and all around high BBIQ
11. Samuel Dalembert (C) - solid defender who can play some spot minutes
12. Cole Aldrich (C/PF) - This is my personal choice for a cheap 3rd option at C who can defend and get rebounds, and not bad option if we cant get anyone else
13. Garret Temple (SG) - He is only really good at three thing, thats transition basketball, set plays out of timeouts, and FT, we need more transition offense, and Joeger is great at setting up plays out of timeouts in my opinion, so he could serve a couple plays a game kind of role for memphis including end of the game close game situations.
14. Jeff Whithey (C) - Good Shot blocker, not good much else.
15. Louis Scola (PF) - He is aging, but he is still a good player off the bench and since he doesnt jump much, shouldnt really lose his shooting touch. (he could be our mini Z-Bo off the bench)
0. If Lou williams wants to come here for MLE... he is option "TAKE HIM NOW CHRIS WALLACE" EVERY TIME solid guard off the bench and could put us over the top.
Give me your thoughts!
This is one I thought if Memphis were to make a draft day deal this wouldnt be completely bad.
So Memphis lets Calathes go, retain Jeff Green and Udrih and let's say Leur is retained, but Jamychal Green and Stokes are both retained on incredibly low deals (bout 800k each, which i think is actually not far off what they were offered). Carter gets a declined role and say Udrih doesnt come back off his foot surgery so well so he gets a declined role as well. Koufos leaves in FA. So let's look at Memphis' roster Pre-Draft
Conley/Smith/Udrih
Lee/Adams/ Carter
Allen/Jeff Green
Z-Bo/Jamychal Green/Stokes
Gasol/ Leur
and the 25th pick
Total Players on Roster: 13+1 Draft pick
Needs by Position: SF/PF/C
Needs by Skills: Floor Spacing, Length, Athletcism, Coachability, high PER
Needs by Concerns: PG because of Injuries, PF/C because of Depth, Currently playing players out of position/out of play style
An outlook at the current FA market:
FA concerns: Low money available, small market, non-traditional team/play style, low volume of available minutes
FA plus: friendly atmosphere, can hide defensive deficiencies, top team in the West, many veterans
Positions with highest likelihood of signing per FA +/- in order: SG/PF/PG
Most commonly seen FA prospect's attributes: Good Outside shooting / poor defense / undersized/ role players
Trade Proposal:
Atlanta Drafts Sam Dekker at 15
Memphis trades: Courtney Lee + Jon Leur to Atlanta for Sam Dekker + 59th Pick in 2015 Draft
Why for Atlanta? They get the Veteran Courtney Lee who can round out their wing rotation and might be useful to have depending on how the Carroll situation goes in FA, but can still be a solid 6th man for the Hawks and help propel them back into the Eastern Conference Finals and get them closer to the level the Cavs are on, and Leur helps to round out the roster with a fringe rotational big man who can come in handy if one of their players gets injured and is what the Hawks were looking to target in the draft.
Why for Memphis? Memphis retains the 25th pick and now the 59th pick in a deep draft, but the real prize is Sam Dekker who is a versatile true SF on the wing, he is a consistent outside threat, but has more intangibles to offer than simply being a role player on the team in the long term. He is a high upside player with his main "hidden" attributes being a crafty defensive presence who can defend everything from slower more physical PG using his length (Irving, Westbrook, guys Conley has trouble guarding) to even having the length and physicality to guard most PF and he is a keen ball handler on offense. He is coming from a situation where he had a great passing C (kaminsky, we have Gasol) and fits our current system really well. He has also been working on his Athleticism lately and should be an easily coachable player with a low ego and can both space the floor and slash, also a good transition finisher and rebounder. Oh and did I mention his PER of almost 25? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3wKGGX2BTY if you want to see video. This also opens up a bit of cap space to keep us out of the Luxury and gives us a couple cheap long term contracts going into big cap years.
Memphis selects Rakeem Christmas with the 25th pick (If Upshaw is not avaliable)
Memphis selects Josh Richardson with the 59th pick
Why for Memphis in draft picks? Christmas/Upshaw are very good off the bench role players at the C/PF spot to soak up the left minutes by Koufos, Christmas can fit in Memphis' system because he and Upshaw are both good above the rim defenders and the questions about how Christmas' defensive game will translate to the NBA from the zone run in Syracuse is not a problem in Memphis, because even though Memphis runs help defense a lot, just sit Christmas or Upshaw in the middle of the lane like they are used to from College and just get them to defend the rim because Memphis has the defensive ability to man the perimeter well enough that either of those guys should be able to get an ample amount of blocks and contested shots on defense, and both of their offensive games need polishing, but they are each physically ready to play for a physical banging team like memphis and might be able to strengthen their offensive game that way by getting away with a bit more physicallity.
Josh Richardson is a 3-D 6'5" SG/PG prospect out of UT, past teammate of Jarnell Stokes. Joeger seemed really intrigued by him in his recent workout for memphis and its not far fetched to pick up a guy who can pick up the role of a reserved for injury ball handler like Calathes, but unlike Calathes I believe Richardson has better ball handling and shooting skills over Calathes, and slightly better defense. Where he is lacking a bit is in BBIQ when it comes to passing and he has little to no inside game, but I think being around a veteran like carter and such who all have great BBIQ, he will be able to develop mentally away from his deficiencies, a good pickup at the end of the draft who can play in the D-League until needed, more of an extremely cheap insurance policy for Conley and Udrih. The good thing is he is very likable and coachable and seems to really respect the Memphis organization.
Roster Pre-FA:
Conley/Smith/Udrih/Richardson
Allen/Adams/Carter
Dekker/Jeff Green
Z-Bo/Jamychal Green/Stokes
Gasol/Christmas(or Upshaw)
Total Players: 14
So we can get 1 FA
Let's say Oden doesnt make the team, these are some of the best prospects we can get out of FA at MLE that make the most sense, in order.
1. Bass (PF)- floor spacing Bigman and a veteran
2. Marco Bellinelli (SG) - great behind the arc shooter that can space the floor and allow memphis to get more 3s
3. Andrea Bargnani (C/PF) - Good veteran floor spacing bigman who is still a bit undervalued and can play important spot minutes on a contending team.
4. Jonas Jerebko (personally rather try out Jamychal Green more, PF/SF) - Floor Spacing Bigman who is inconsistent at times
5. Javale McGee (C) - After a few bad years he should have a low price tag and could be a decent cheap 4th option in the font court
6. Jason Smith (PF/C) - Good all around bigman who can come off the bench and give meaningful minutes in spot minutes
7. Omri Casspi (SF) - Good all around shooter and can be a solid and cheap option on the wing
8. Quincy Acy (PF/SF) - Overall hasnt shown much in the NBA, but he is effective at crashing the boards and can be a helpful role player if they can get him in shape and quick enough to play the SF position full time.
9. Wesley Johnson (SF/SG) - He has been on the downturn lately, but I still think he has good ability to come in and hit key shots down the stretch, he would be a cheap option we could hold in reserve
10. Joe Ingles (SF) - Who Memphis really should have considered signing last year in the offseason, he is a solid contributor and all around high BBIQ
11. Samuel Dalembert (C) - solid defender who can play some spot minutes
12. Cole Aldrich (C/PF) - This is my personal choice for a cheap 3rd option at C who can defend and get rebounds, and not bad option if we cant get anyone else
13. Garret Temple (SG) - He is only really good at three thing, thats transition basketball, set plays out of timeouts, and FT, we need more transition offense, and Joeger is great at setting up plays out of timeouts in my opinion, so he could serve a couple plays a game kind of role for memphis including end of the game close game situations.
14. Jeff Whithey (C) - Good Shot blocker, not good much else.
15. Louis Scola (PF) - He is aging, but he is still a good player off the bench and since he doesnt jump much, shouldnt really lose his shooting touch. (he could be our mini Z-Bo off the bench)
0. If Lou williams wants to come here for MLE... he is option "TAKE HIM NOW CHRIS WALLACE" EVERY TIME solid guard off the bench and could put us over the top.
Give me your thoughts!