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Grizzlies(22-16) @ Warriors(31-5)
Posted: Fri Jan 6, 2017 7:33 pm
by SD2042
Re: Grizzlies(22-16) @ Warriors(31-5)
Posted: Fri Jan 6, 2017 11:42 pm
by ducler
Re: Grizzlies(22-16) @ Warriors(31-5)
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 6:52 am
by Franc
Re: Grizzlies(22-16) @ Warriors(31-5)
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 6:54 am
by Franc
Re: Grizzlies(22-16) @ Warriors(31-5)
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 9:23 am
by SD2042
Can't believe the Grizzlies pulled it off. Especially with the way they been struggling on the road.
Re: Grizzlies(22-16) @ Warriors(31-5)
Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2017 2:04 pm
by dark-child
This victory officially ended any hope for a meaningful trade to happen before the deadline. How can you even think about tinkering with the team when you have beaten the best team in basketball twice, and split with the current NBA champs. The latter victory may be just circumstance but a deal seems unlikely now.
Re: Grizzlies(22-16) @ Warriors(31-5)
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:16 am
by SD2042
dark-child wrote:This victory officially ended any hope for a meaningful trade to happen before the deadline. How can you even think about tinkering with the team when you have beaten the best team in basketball twice, and split with the current NBA champs. The latter victory may be just circumstance but a deal seems unlikely now.
To me the Warriors made a mistake getting Kevin Durant. I have great respect for what he has done so far into his career in terms of skills and what he has done to contribute to his former team's community. My issue is that when a team like the Warriors goes after a star caliber player like Durant when you already have a superstar nucleus in Curry, Thompson, and Green, said team will have to sacrifice their bench depth to make room for a star of KD's caliber.
The result has left the Warriors a bit different this season. Yes you picked up a quality player in Durant who can light it up offensively and is a decent defender and rebounder. However, their way of protecting the post and going after second chance points has struggled at times as well as some offensive efficiency from their bench. Come playoff time, those issues will define my theory.
Re: Grizzlies(22-16) @ Warriors(31-5)
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:28 pm
by dark-child
I call it being too cute! You have something that works, but you tinker, & tinker with it, but not to improve but to show how clever you are. They have made decisions that have worked out throughout the organization. Choosing Steph Curry over Monta Ellis (yes that was a debate) letting Mark Jackson go and hiring an unproven never coached before Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr choosing Golden State over the New York Knicks. The moves worked out but they assume they are because of their own efforts and that they are the smartest guys in the room with no humility. They should have viewed these things as cyclical and just in there window of opportunity. The organization was split about trading for Kevin Love and sending Klay Thompson to do it, and just blind luck that they didn't do the deal. Last season they suffer a double humiliation in setting the single season record for victories and not win the title with a three games to one lead and home field advantage. Their response to that setback was to add Kevin Durant at the expense of the foundation in place. We are seeing the results of that decision and it is bearing itself out not just in the Grizzlies victory but anytime the game is relatively close they are coming up short. I saw a stat that they are 0-5 in these type of games. Coming into the season none of the big three realized that they would have to sacrifice parts of their game to make the whole better and having an inexperienced coach to direct them in this affair is finally catching up with them. I hope the dysfunction continues and the one guy they should never lose becomes so uncontrollable that they attempt to trade him, which is Draymond Green. This is the inheritor to the ZBo crown and the one guy the Grizz should mortgage any two young players and a future first to make a deal for him. It is a mighty big (IF) but him chewing out K.D. was priceless.
Re: Grizzlies(22-16) @ Warriors(31-5)
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:07 am
by SD2042
dark-child wrote:I call it being too cute! You have something that works, but you tinker, & tinker with it, but not to improve but to show how clever you are. They have made decisions that have worked out throughout the organization. Choosing Steph Curry over Monta Ellis (yes that was a debate) letting Mark Jackson go and hiring an unproven never coached before Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr choosing Golden State over the New York Knicks. The moves worked out but they assume they are because of their own efforts and that they are the smartest guys in the room with no humility. They should have viewed these things as cyclical and just in there window of opportunity. The organization was split about trading for Kevin Love and sending Klay Thompson to do it, and just blind luck that they didn't do the deal. Last season they suffer a double humiliation in setting the single season record for victories and not win the title with a three games to one lead and home field advantage. Their response to that setback was to add Kevin Durant at the expense of the foundation in place. We are seeing the results of that decision and it is bearing itself out not just in the Grizzlies victory but anytime the game is relatively close they are coming up short. I saw a stat that they are 0-5 in these type of games. Coming into the season none of the big three realized that they would have to sacrifice parts of their game to make the whole better and having an inexperienced coach to direct them in this affair is finally catching up with them. I hope the dysfunction continues and the one guy they should never lose becomes so uncontrollable that they attempt to trade him, which is Draymond Green. This is the inheritor to the ZBo crown and the one guy the Grizz should mortgage any two young players and a future first to make a deal for him. It is a mighty big (IF) but him chewing out K.D. was priceless.
I loved the Steph vs. Ellis debate. The best shooter vs. the best scorer at the time in Ellis. Curry came into the league hot. Once the Warriors drafted him, it was only a matter of time before Ellis was traded to another team. For that, the Warriors made a great decision and it paid dividends. Mark Jackson to me instill the motivation into a Warriors team that laid in the NBA wastelands for nearly two decades. Kerr took Jackson's players and got them to the finals and got themselves a NBA championship.
As for the debacle with the Cavs in the finals, that was about as strange as it could get. All those weapons they had and they let the Cavs come back to win from being down 1-3. Call me speechless I guess.
As for Draymond Green being the apparent heir to the ZBo crown, ...... sounds like some wishful thinking due to the fact both these guys played at Michigan State and that these guys are the heart and glue of their respective teams.
Re: Grizzlies(22-16) @ Warriors(31-5)
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:53 pm
by dark-child
As for Draymond Green being the apparent heir to the ZBo crown, ...... sounds like some wishful thinking due to the fact both these guys played at Michigan State and that these guys are the heart and glue of their respective teams.
So you saying there is a chance?
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