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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#241 » by SD2042 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:00 pm

VCfor3 wrote:Big win for us to not woefully overpay!
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Not too bad of a deal. Welcome back DAM.
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#242 » by VCfor3 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:01 pm

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VCfor3 wrote:Big win for us to not woefully overpay!
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Not too bad of a deal. Welcome back DAM.

I was worried he'd get at least the MLE from some team.
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#243 » by SD2042 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:11 pm

VCfor3 wrote:
SD2042 wrote:
VCfor3 wrote:Big win for us to not woefully overpay!
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Not too bad of a deal. Welcome back DAM.

I was worried he'd get at least the MLE from some team.



I don't know why, but I wasn't all that worry. He had a small market of teams like Atl and another team I think wanted in. With the way free agency is going, Grizzlies did right by retaining their defensive specialist.
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#244 » by psman2 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:13 pm

VCfor3 wrote:
SD2042 wrote:
VCfor3 wrote:Big win for us to not woefully overpay!
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Not too bad of a deal. Welcome back DAM.

I was worried he'd get at least the MLE from some team.


Too rich for my blood, would have let him walk. Hope I am wrong.
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#245 » by E S V L » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:10 pm

This guy hasn’t finally established himself yet, so he got this contract because he is 22, he is still promising. He has to prove he is worth his contract. I am still angry about his bubble performance. I had been his huge fan.
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#246 » by SD2042 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:14 pm

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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#247 » by E S V L » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:14 pm

I am happy with the Kanchar signing
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#248 » by VCfor3 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:21 pm

psman2 wrote:
VCfor3 wrote:
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Not too bad of a deal. Welcome back DAM.

I was worried he'd get at least the MLE from some team.


Too rich for my blood, would have let him walk. Hope I am wrong.

On twitter they were saying that maybe it is a declining contract. So he will be relatively cheap when we are signing other players/extending our guys.

For what it is worth, this is the max I felt okay going.
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#249 » by VCfor3 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:11 pm

So I guess our roster will end up looking something like:

Ja/Tyus/Konchar
Brooks/Melton/Bane/Allen
Winslow/Anderson
JJJ/Clarke/Porter
JV/Dieng/Tillman

Tillie and McDermott on two-ways


But to start the season with Winslow and JJJ out:
Ja/Tyus/Konchar
Melton/Bane/Allen
Brooks/Anderson
Clarke/Porter/Tillie
JV/Dieng/Tillman
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#250 » by psman2 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:39 pm

VCfor3 wrote:
psman2 wrote:
VCfor3 wrote:I was worried he'd get at least the MLE from some team.


Too rich for my blood, would have let him walk. Hope I am wrong.

On twitter they were saying that maybe it is a declining contract. So he will be relatively cheap when we are signing other players/extending our guys.

For what it is worth, this is the max I felt okay going.


I hope it is declining.

I just feel like we have 20m tied up between Melton and Brooks with neither being starter quality SG yet. Don't get me wrong I like Melton and rather have him than not, but I also like to have max cap space next year which is a little harder after this signing.
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#251 » by psman2 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:35 am

I would like to see us bring in Torrey Craig on a 2/10m contract to backup Winslow on the wings. SNT info our Conley TPE with a 2nd?
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#252 » by VCfor3 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:09 am

psman2 wrote:I would like to see us bring in Torrey Craig on a 2/10m contract to backup Winslow on the wings. SNT info our Conley TPE with a 2nd?

It has to be for 3 years if it is a S&T, but I'd love to do a 3 year deal with the last two years not guaranteed if we could. That way we can waive him if we think we need the cap or else keep him for a couple years if he is playing well. I don't know if he'd do that though.
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#253 » by psman2 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:11 am

VCfor3 wrote:
psman2 wrote:I would like to see us bring in Torrey Craig on a 2/10m contract to backup Winslow on the wings. SNT info our Conley TPE with a 2nd?

It has to be for 3 years if it is a S&T, but I'd love to do a 3 year deal with the last two years not guaranteed if we could. That way we can waive him if we think we need the cap or else keep him for a couple years if he is playing well. I don't know if he'd do that though.


True on the years, we might not get him without the 2 year guaranteed too. He is an older FA so he might want to lock in a little more money than have both years as options.
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#254 » by E S V L » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:01 pm

VCfor3 wrote:So I guess our roster will end up looking something like:

Ja/Tyus/Konchar
Brooks/Melton/Bane/Allen
Winslow/Anderson
JJJ/Clarke/Porter
JV/Dieng/Tillman

Tillie and McDermott on two-ways


But to start the season with Winslow and JJJ out:
Ja/Tyus/Konchar
Melton/Bane/Allen
Brooks/Anderson
Clarke/Porter/Tillie
JV/Dieng/Tillman


Konchar is rather sg
Isn’t Porter gone?
Where is SuperMario?
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#255 » by VCfor3 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:26 pm

E S V L wrote:
VCfor3 wrote:So I guess our roster will end up looking something like:

Ja/Tyus/Konchar
Brooks/Melton/Bane/Allen
Winslow/Anderson
JJJ/Clarke/Porter
JV/Dieng/Tillman

Tillie and McDermott on two-ways


But to start the season with Winslow and JJJ out:
Ja/Tyus/Konchar
Melton/Bane/Allen
Brooks/Anderson
Clarke/Porter/Tillie
JV/Dieng/Tillman


Konchar is rather sg
Isn’t Porter gone?
Where is SuperMario?

I was guessing that we'd waive SuperMario and keep Porter given that we still have a qualifying offer extended to Porter. And yeah Konchar is more SG but I wonder if they'd try to give him run at PG if needed this season. May be how he gets a few minutes given our depth at SG.
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#256 » by E S V L » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:35 pm

Porter 3 years 6m. I haven’t seen this coming.
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#257 » by Whole Truth » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:07 pm

Winslow not starting the year, is IMO, a blessing for Memphis.

I think Banes skillset would benefit most despite his inexperience by playing with the only 2 Memphis players who draw the most defensive attention, Jonas & Ja. Vice a versa, they have a need for better spacing which is banes strength as a player. Last year Memphis struggled not only to hit the 3 but to consistently hit the open to wide open 3's, which allowed teams to collapse the paint on Jonas & especially Ja because Jonas also occupies the lane. It's a big reason why Ja struggled the most against teams with good defensive length, like Philly.

With 3J also out to start the year.

Jonas
Clarke
Brooks
Bane
Ja

Dieng/Tillman
Anderson
Melton/Winslow
Allen
Tyus

What's the worse that can happen? (A high 2021 pick ...)

Memphis have nothing to lose at this point of the rebuild. Banes struggles, Winslow can be reinserted into the starting rotation. The real issue to address would be if Banes proves to be a good fit in the starting rotation, what happens to Brooks/Winslow when he returns to play?. If Banes is playing, fitting well next to Ja does Memphis still bump him from the rotation?.

With Dieng & Winslow totaling 32m in expiring value, Memphis could explore taking on salary for future incentives or young talent.
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#258 » by E S V L » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:36 am

This roster is unbalanced. I expect trades are coming sooner or later. We don’t have a healthy true SF, but have sg position literally crowded.
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#259 » by VCfor3 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:10 pm

E S V L wrote:This roster is unbalanced. I expect trades are coming sooner or later. We don’t have a healthy true SF, but have sg position literally crowded.

I think Brooks plays starting SF and Anderson backs him up to start the season. Could also see us going with three guard lineups.
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Re: Offseason Discussion 

Post#260 » by E S V L » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:54 pm

VCfor3 wrote:
E S V L wrote:This roster is unbalanced. I expect trades are coming sooner or later. We don’t have a healthy true SF, but have sg position literally crowded.

I think Brooks plays starting SF and Anderson backs him up to start the season. Could also see us going with three guard lineups.


It is hard to count Brooks as an SF. It would be a 3 guards scheme as you rightly noted.

We should trade Grayson to the Kings for Woodard.

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