VCfor3 wrote:gobullschi wrote:Small trade: Tomas Satoransky for Justice Winslow
It depends on if we decline the team option or not. You can maybe just outright sign him for less than 13m if we do decline the TO. If we don't decline the TO and end up moving Tyus, I'd be super down for this.
Whole Truth wrote:I see Memphis fans struggling with a Winslow financial deal with GS for the 14th pick.
Drop Winslow's contract Memphis will have 20 something mil in cap space instead of trading Winslow, Wiggins would be taken into that cap space creating another large TE for GS for a mid lotto pick.
Memphis trade - (Jones, roughly 20m TE) for (Wiggins, #14)
GS may prefer a different filler than Jones but you get the gist of it.
gobullschi wrote:VCfor3 wrote:gobullschi wrote:Small trade: Tomas Satoransky for Justice Winslow
It depends on if we decline the team option or not. You can maybe just outright sign him for less than 13m if we do decline the TO. If we don't decline the TO and end up moving Tyus, I'd be super down for this.
*The deal would be before August 1st, so Chicago could decline the team option.
This would be a cost savings trade for Chicago, who needs to clear up enough cap space to make a run at a free agent (Lonzo?).
VCfor3 wrote:gobullschi wrote:VCfor3 wrote:It depends on if we decline the team option or not. You can maybe just outright sign him for less than 13m if we do decline the TO. If we don't decline the TO and end up moving Tyus, I'd be super down for this.
*The deal would be before August 1st, so Chicago could decline the team option.
This would be a cost savings trade for Chicago, who needs to clear up enough cap space to make a run at a free agent (Lonzo?).
Is that legal to trade him now and then you guys decline the TO? I have no idea what the rules are in that situation
gobullschi wrote:VCfor3 wrote:gobullschi wrote:
*The deal would be before August 1st, so Chicago could decline the team option.
This would be a cost savings trade for Chicago, who needs to clear up enough cap space to make a run at a free agent (Lonzo?).
Is that legal to trade him now and then you guys decline the TO? I have no idea what the rules are in that situation
That’s a great question. I assumed it was legal, but maybe it isn’t… Would Memphis trade for Sato for pure cap space?
Whole Truth wrote:I don't know if you remember 2yrs ago when you expressed interest in SGA, I told you by not trading Paul OKC were going to find themselves in this position with him where they have a multitude of picks but all reliant on luck & this year, when they really needed it, they failed to get into the top 5, at a point where SGA & OKC might be too good to continue losing & not yet good enough to be a contender with SGA.
Sorry Vic, unless OKC covet 3J I think you're out of luck on SGA. Memphis would be better off just trying to get into the top 5 for someone like Green themselves, They would have to overpay to get into the top 5 alone, then overpay OKC to pry SGA.
IMO not doable without OKC having interest in 3J's potential. Targeting 3J does the 2 things for OKC I stated above.
1, Resets timeline on a high ceiling prospect.
2, The still raw 22yo prospect 3J, allows them to continue to lose without having to sit a contributing player like Horford as they did this past year only to strike out in the lottery.
Therein the point of trading SGA, reset the draft timeline. One thing is certain, OKC fans won't be on board trading SGA to reset their draft timeline.
VCfor3 wrote:I don't think JJJ resets the timeline for them though if they believe SGA isn't fitting their timeline. I'd think they'd want young players with years left on rookie deals. That isn't JJJ.
scottyg wrote:How bout some type of trade with the bulls -
Bulls get -
- Justice Winslow
- Jaren Jackson III
Grizzlies get -
- Tomas Satoransky
- Lauri Markannen
- 2021 pick # 36
ProcessDoctor wrote:Sixers fan in peace here. Do you think the Grizz FO would be interested in a Harris for Anderson + Winslow deal?
ProcessDoctor wrote:Sixers fan in peace here. Do you think the Grizz FO would be interested in a Harris for Anderson + Winslow deal?
VCfor3 wrote:ProcessDoctor wrote:Sixers fan in peace here. Do you think the Grizz FO would be interested in a Harris for Anderson + Winslow deal?
That's a great question and one I have little insight into ha. Our FO keeps things close to their chest so there really hasn't been much of any indication on what direction they may try to take the team this offseason. I think if they wanted to go after a vet to firmly push us into the playoff conversation that this could be a deal they consider. Love Anderson and think he's a great player, but Tobias has a bit more creation which we need. Wish he was more SF than PF with JJJ there but not much I can do about that. Anderson would fit very well with you guys especially if you end up moving Simmons at some point. I don't know what kind of value the FO would assign Harris or Anderson, but I'm sure the two FOs can balance the deal if needed.
My question for you is can Harris be a full time SF and still be as effective as he has been? He probably gets some run at PF when we put JJJ at center, but most of his time at least in the short term will be at SF next to JJJ and JV.
ProcessDoctor wrote:VCfor3 wrote:ProcessDoctor wrote:Sixers fan in peace here. Do you think the Grizz FO would be interested in a Harris for Anderson + Winslow deal?
That's a great question and one I have little insight into ha. Our FO keeps things close to their chest so there really hasn't been much of any indication on what direction they may try to take the team this offseason. I think if they wanted to go after a vet to firmly push us into the playoff conversation that this could be a deal they consider. Love Anderson and think he's a great player, but Tobias has a bit more creation which we need. Wish he was more SF than PF with JJJ there but not much I can do about that. Anderson would fit very well with you guys especially if you end up moving Simmons at some point. I don't know what kind of value the FO would assign Harris or Anderson, but I'm sure the two FOs can balance the deal if needed.
My question for you is can Harris be a full time SF and still be as effective as he has been? He probably gets some run at PF when we put JJJ at center, but most of his time at least in the short term will be at SF next to JJJ and JV.
It's tough to say. The only time we saw him start at SF in Philly was besides Embiid + Horford, which was a terrible fit (especially with Simmons running the point).
That being said, he's remained very lean compared to 3 years ago. Offensively, I see no issues with him playing the 3. Defensively, he lacks the lateral quickness to stay in front of many 3's. I'd stagger him down to the 4 when possible. This is how I'd divvy up minutes played by position in the regular season:
Morant(32)/Jones(16)
Brooks(8)/Melton(20)/Allen(16)/Bane(4)
Harris(16)/Brooks(20)/Bane(12)
Jackson(8)/Clarke(24)/Harris(16)
Jonas(28)/Jackson(20)
