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Post#61 » by VCfor3 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:52 pm

....would Grayson+Dieng for Oladipo have been a better return? I think it would have since Houston is going to be a lot worse than Miami next year so that swap isn't going to matter. Not that that would have helped us probably with how VO was playing this year, but would have been interesting.
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Post#62 » by E S V L » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:22 pm

As our roster looks complete for 2021/2022, I will be neither surprised nor disappointed if FO decides to trade our 14m cap space in exchange for a remote 1st, in the same way they did with GSW/Igoudala, to preserve sustainable flow of rookies to the team at the time when Ja and JJJ are on max contracts.
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Post#63 » by VCfor3 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:37 am

E S V L wrote:As our roster looks complete for 2021/2022, I will be neither surprised nor disappointed if FO decides to trade our 14m cap space in exchange for a remote 1st, in the same way they did with GSW/Igoudala, to preserve sustainable flow of rookies to the team at the time when Ja and JJJ are on max contracts.

We have a full roster assuming we keep Winslow (I expect us to after today press conference) after factoring in our first round pick. If we want to use the MLE or our cap on someone we will ultimately have to waive someone. Guess we could always take an expiring into our space and waive him this offseason before the roster cut-down. Otherwise we will only open up a spot by a trade. Maybe a consolidation trade for that last piece. Maybe just us selling off whichever young guy we don't see as part of our future. Should be interesting to see how it all plays out.
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Post#64 » by SD2042 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:08 pm

VCfor3 wrote:....would Grayson+Dieng for Oladipo have been a better return? I think it would have since Houston is going to be a lot worse than Miami next year so that swap isn't going to matter. Not that that would have helped us probably with how VO was playing this year, but would have been interesting.


Based on what Houston got back in return from the Heat, :lol: :nonono: maybe. Then again, this is Houston's second time being dumb in trades so far. Instead of keeping LeVert with the Nets, he opts for Oladipo. In Thursday's trade, instead of gaining Duncan Robinson in the trade along with Avery Bradley and Kelly Olynyk, the Rockets just accepts Bradley and Olynyk. Houston has been quite questionable in the last two trades.
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Post#65 » by VCfor3 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:17 pm

So. Looking at the teams projected to have a top 5 pick. I can't see us being able to offer a package to entice most of them.

The three with a minimally possible chance would be:
1. MIN - I think they'd prefer to draft and add to their core. They are a terrible team and need to add some high end talent to pair with Towns, Edwards, and I guess Dlo. The pitch I'd try to go with would be us providing savings (they will be over the cap), multiple assets, and players who can help them win now. A lot would depend on who is available at their pick. Would they want to try and play Towns and Mobley together? If not then Mobley would not be as enticing for them for the reasons they passed on Wiseman. Are they still all in on Dlo? If so then I could see them unsure about Suggs and maybe Green kind of like they were with Ball. Then again they could potentially play Edwards at SF and go small. They won't trade Cade if they get #1 for the optics. So if they are willing to listen then we create a package with our 2021 1st, multiple future 1sts, and their choice of players outside Ja and JJJ. I'd like to keep Clarke potentially since he pairs well with JJJ, but I doubt we can be picky.

2. DET - I have no idea what these guys are thinking. They should be embracing the rebuild but whatever. They probably keep their pick, but if they really are trying to kinda toe the line between win-now and rebuilding then maybe we can offer some youth and depth plus future picks? They've done some weird stuff so maybe but I'm not holding my breath. They don't really have cap issues though there is a ton of dead money on the books so cap savings won't be a factor.

3. HOU - They made quite a few, um, "questionable" deals so maybe we can sneak in one more? We can build a package around eating Wall and Gordon, giving them useful players, and adding to their pick collection. Anything for their owner to save a buck right? I don't know if they are willing to blow a top 4 pick for that since they need an attraction to put butts in the seats, but it is worth a try.
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Post#66 » by Whole Truth » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:47 pm

VCfor3 wrote:So. Looking at the teams projected to have a top 5 pick. I can't see us being able to offer a package to entice most of them.

The three with a minimally possible chance would be:
1. MIN - I think they'd prefer to draft and add to their core. They are a terrible team and need to add some high end talent to pair with Towns, Edwards, and I guess Dlo. The pitch I'd try to go with would be us providing savings (they will be over the cap), multiple assets, and players who can help them win now. A lot would depend on who is available at their pick. Would they want to try and play Towns and Mobley together? If not then Mobley would not be as enticing for them for the reasons they passed on Wiseman. Are they still all in on Dlo? If so then I could see them unsure about Suggs and maybe Green kind of like they were with Ball. Then again they could potentially play Edwards at SF and go small. They won't trade Cade if they get #1 for the optics. So if they are willing to listen then we create a package with our 2021 1st, multiple future 1sts, and their choice of players outside Ja and JJJ. I'd like to keep Clarke potentially since he pairs well with JJJ, but I doubt we can be picky.

2. DET - I have no idea what these guys are thinking. They should be embracing the rebuild but whatever. They probably keep their pick, but if they really are trying to kinda toe the line between win-now and rebuilding then maybe we can offer some youth and depth plus future picks? They've done some weird stuff so maybe but I'm not holding my breath. They don't really have cap issues though there is a ton of dead money on the books so cap savings won't be a factor.

3. HOU - They made quite a few, um, "questionable" deals so maybe we can sneak in one more? We can build a package around eating Wall and Gordon, giving them useful players, and adding to their pick collection. Anything for their owner to save a buck right? I don't know if they are willing to blow a top 4 pick for that since they need an attraction to put butts in the seats, but it is worth a try.


Minnesota have a lot of young talent, youngest team in the league. I'd think if they were to trade their pick, it would be in a consolidation trade with maybe other picks/young player/s for someone like Beal if they do not choose to move on from Kat. They're in appeasement mode where I don't think cap space & FRP's help them in that situation, which usually never ends well, See their 21/22 pick traded & last place finish for friend Russell.

Casey going through a rebuild with the Raptors knows the importance of building a winning culture. A stable environment is needed to properly develop & guide youth. It's a mistake tanking teams that remain in the lottery make. See Memphis with Jonas & Crowder around 3J & Ja. I think this could be Memphis best bet if Detroit like one of the young players not named 3J or Ja in combination with multiple picks/assets ..

Houston, is unpredictable, don't know what to think where they're concerned.
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Post#67 » by SD2042 » Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:44 pm

VCfor3 wrote:So. Looking at the teams projected to have a top 5 pick. I can't see us being able to offer a package to entice most of them.

The three with a minimally possible chance would be:
1. MIN - I think they'd prefer to draft and add to their core. They are a terrible team and need to add some high end talent to pair with Towns, Edwards, and I guess Dlo. The pitch I'd try to go with would be us providing savings (they will be over the cap), multiple assets, and players who can help them win now. A lot would depend on who is available at their pick. Would they want to try and play Towns and Mobley together? If not then Mobley would not be as enticing for them for the reasons they passed on Wiseman. Are they still all in on Dlo? If so then I could see them unsure about Suggs and maybe Green kind of like they were with Ball. Then again they could potentially play Edwards at SF and go small. They won't trade Cade if they get #1 for the optics. So if they are willing to listen then we create a package with our 2021 1st, multiple future 1sts, and their choice of players outside Ja and JJJ. I'd like to keep Clarke potentially since he pairs well with JJJ, but I doubt we can be picky.

2. DET - I have no idea what these guys are thinking. They should be embracing the rebuild but whatever. They probably keep their pick, but if they really are trying to kinda toe the line between win-now and rebuilding then maybe we can offer some youth and depth plus future picks? They've done some weird stuff so maybe but I'm not holding my breath. They don't really have cap issues though there is a ton of dead money on the books so cap savings won't be a factor.

3. HOU - They made quite a few, um, "questionable" deals so maybe we can sneak in one more? We can build a package around eating Wall and Gordon, giving them useful players, and adding to their pick collection. Anything for their owner to save a buck right? I don't know if they are willing to blow a top 4 pick for that since they need an attraction to put butts in the seats, but it is worth a try.



My thoughts with Minnesota is this:

A mess of an organization from top to bottom. With the way things have gone with them for a minute, I do believe that sometime within the next season, maybe two that KAT will want to change up. The Wolves best to get ready for that episode to happen. As for what their plan is. It's hard to say. If they want to keep KAT from pulling an AD23 from the franchise. They need to get on the same page to making the franchise better. They need to add an alpha player to the squad. A player who brings the numbers and the right killer instinct to lead the team to the promise land. Second, round up what value they have and see what new assets they can get back in return. Will they get that from the Grizzlies, it depends on the timing and circumstances. I will say this, with your theories, I say whoever decides to be their upcoming trade partner will be in the drivers seat.

Detroit seems to be on their own path to perhaps develop some value and maybe trade said player(s) away on their own time. Perhaps the reason why they didn't feel the need to trade Jerami Grant previous to the trade deadline. My thoughts is that the Pistons will continue to rebuild very unique from the traditional ways of doing such a thing. At least from a worst standpoint, they are somewhat better than the Wolves current predicament.

HOU- To be direct here. The Houston front office is showing signs of incompetence. The trade for John Wall. The trades for VO from front to end. It's been a roller coaster ride for Team Rockets. I feel sorry for John Wall here. He went from one team that was likely to struggle hard in the Wizards to be traded to the Rockets on a tremendous downswing. Plus him coming back from nearly a two year absence from a few months prior didn''t help his situation. With the deals the Rockets have done in the last few months, I'm questioning the competence of the Rockets front office. Can they manage to get some form of team structure going again to get their team swinging in the right direction? Albeit the timing it will take to get it done.

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