Whole Truth wrote:jman3134 wrote:In my opinion, obviously I don't think Brooks was trying to hurt the guy. Nor, do I even think he was sending a message. Agree with Herrington that it was just a frustration foul that was dirty (whereas Draymond is dirty for the sake of being dirty). That is why I am annoyed with Brooks. Also, think Kenny captured it pretty well.
Jam, respect your opinion but I'd love to hear what these people would be saying, if Clarke had landed wrong.
I have a problem with everyone trying to compare the Green and Brooks fouls in light of "which was worse" and use that to justify the punishment. They are two different situations in my opinion and what happens in one shouldn't effect the other. Punishment should simply be looking at the situation and calling it accordingly.
I completely agree with jman and Herrington. I think Brooks went for the block while accepting that it would likely be a foul and was recklessly aggressive with his contest attempt that really didn't have much of a chance to work. Dillon is an emotional guy and he had just missed a few shots after having a terrible shooting night the game before. He did something dumb. I think his left hand that some others are complaining about elsewhere didn't do anything. He didn't grab the jersey or push with it as they are trying to argue. Gary went flying because he got whacked in the head. Dillon tried for the ball, misjudged, and the inside of his arm clubbed Gary's head. That alone would warrant a Flagrant 1, but the fact that he was behind Gary and Gary was in a defenseless position (plus it was a terrible play on the ball) I think it definitely warrants the Flagrant 2. Gary fell awkwardly and did the super wrong yet very natural attempt at catching himself with an outstretched arm and unfortunately got a fracture. I hate it and don't wish injury on any player. I personally have no qualms with taking injury into account with flagrant punishments, but historically that hasn't been something the NBA does very often. Allen got one game for what I think is a worse foul and I think it was because of how bad the foul was regardless of the injury outcome. I don't know if Brooks truly deserves the additional suspension since I don't think intent was there, but if Brooks does end up getting a one game suspension I can definitely understand why they went that way and I won't have a problem with it. Also Kerr was trying hard to push for a suspension with all of his comments.
As for the Green foul, he also hit Clarke in the head which was a Flagrant 1 like I saw with Brooks, but his extra thing was grabbing Clarke's jersey and throwing him down which elevates it to a Flagrant 2. Clarke was much smarter with his landing in part due to his fall being less awkward, and Dray did help cushion the fall at the end, but the reason the fall became dangerous was because of Green throwing him via the jersey. Green catching Clarke and minimizing injury potential makes this better, and I don't think extra suspension time is warranted beyond the Flagrant 2, but this felt like less of a basketball play even though he was just trying to prevent the continuation shot after he fouled Clarke. If Clarke had gotten injured you'd have the Warriors fans defending Green to answer your question though WT. Just kind of what fans do. Would say he was just trying to prevent the shot and that an injury was unfortunate (kind of like I am doing with Brooks ha). I also think if Clarke had gotten injured we'd be talking about a potential one game suspension for Green though I don't know if it would actually happen.
If you are dead set on comparing the two, I think Green's play was dirtier but Brooks was more dangerous. You have to protect guys when they are flying through the air. Some of the softer superstar calls Morant is getting as of late this season is because of that which is good because he has previously gotten banged up due to people hitting him in the air. Morant has officially reached budding superstar status so the league (and officials) are trying to protect him from injury with the more favorable whistle. Now I love having a guy who can get superstar calls, but really I'm just glad Ja is getting a little protection because before he'd get annihilated in the paint and not get a call which is dangerous. Ultimately both Green and Brooks deserved Flagrant 2s and if I was the league I'd be quick to call both for additional fouls/flagrants moving forward and would tell them as much.
