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Draft 2022 

Post#1 » by esvl » Wed Jun 8, 2022 12:26 pm

Who do you like and don’t like?

My boys: Eason, Brown, J.Williams, Liddel, Chandler.

I am not a fan of: Kessler, Dieng, Jovic, all the shooting guards in our range, TyTy, Laravia.

PS what the difference between Eason and Brown?
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#2 » by VCfor3 » Wed Jun 8, 2022 2:09 pm

I haven't dug too deep into the draft, but you aren't a fan of Jaden Hardy as a potential 6th man type for us?
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#3 » by esvl » Wed Jun 8, 2022 2:23 pm

VCfor3 wrote:I haven't dug too deep into the draft, but you aren't a fan of Jaden Hardy as a potential 6th man type for us?


Low release, odd body positioning, a typical scorer with no significant impact in other areas. That’s my impression. If we want this type - I’d rather target Quiclklsy, Simons, Sexton.
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#4 » by VCfor3 » Wed Jun 8, 2022 3:39 pm

esvl wrote:
VCfor3 wrote:I haven't dug too deep into the draft, but you aren't a fan of Jaden Hardy as a potential 6th man type for us?


Low release, odd body positioning, a typical scorer with no significant impact in other areas. That’s my impression. If we want this type - I’d rather target Quiclklsy, Simons, Sexton.

Those guys are more expensive and may be tough to acquire. Quickley may shake loose if the Knicks get Brunson or another starting PG, but they may still want him as their backup. Without adding a better PG, I doubt he is available. Simons seems like a lock to stay with Portland as their PG of the future. Sexton could be available but for 18-20m a year. You also may have to pay Cleveland something for them to not match.
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#5 » by esvl » Wed Jun 8, 2022 4:36 pm

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VCfor3 wrote:I haven't dug too deep into the draft, but you aren't a fan of Jaden Hardy as a potential 6th man type for us?


Low release, odd body positioning, a typical scorer with no significant impact in other areas. That’s my impression. If we want this type - I’d rather target Quiclklsy, Simons, Sexton.

Those guys are more expensive and may be tough to acquire. Quickley may shake loose if the Knicks get Brunson or another starting PG, but they may still want him as their backup. Without adding a better PG, I doubt he is available. Simons seems like a lock to stay with Portland as their PG of the future. Sexton could be available but for 18-20m a year. You also may have to pay Cleveland something for them to not match.


Yeah, but I like Chandler way more than Hardy, though maybe Hardy is a copy of Ziare I don’t know. What do you see in him?
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#6 » by VCfor3 » Wed Jun 8, 2022 4:51 pm

esvl wrote:
VCfor3 wrote:
esvl wrote:
Low release, odd body positioning, a typical scorer with no significant impact in other areas. That’s my impression. If we want this type - I’d rather target Quiclklsy, Simons, Sexton.

Those guys are more expensive and may be tough to acquire. Quickley may shake loose if the Knicks get Brunson or another starting PG, but they may still want him as their backup. Without adding a better PG, I doubt he is available. Simons seems like a lock to stay with Portland as their PG of the future. Sexton could be available but for 18-20m a year. You also may have to pay Cleveland something for them to not match.


Yeah, but I like Chandler way more than Hardy, though maybe Hardy is a copy of Ziare I don’t know. What do you see in him?

He's a hot name amongst Grizz twitter. He has a chance to be an elite scorer. I personally don't see Chandler as being elite at anything though both guys would be bench guys (backup PG vs 6th man/microwave scorer off the bench SG). Hardy feels like he has a higher ceiling but much lower floor. Chandler fits more of a need if we lose Tyus.
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#7 » by esvl » Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:16 pm

Wendell Moore Jr. got my attention recently. He is basically another 5 star prospect who failed for some reasons at the college level. In terms of a player profile, he resembles Melton almost in everything. So I wouldn`t be too surprised if FO decides to select him at 29 and pair him with Melton as a comboguard bench duo instead of finding a pure pg replacement for Tyus.
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#8 » by esvl » Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:19 pm

There is another Melton-type guy - Ryan Rollins.

My plan as of today is as follows (like anybody is interested :)):

1. Trade DB and #22 to Atlanta for #16.
2. Trade Adams to OKC for TRE and #34
3. Trade Tillie, #47, and future 2nd to someone for a top 2nd round pick.
4. Let Tyus and Kyle go.
5. On the draft select then:
#16 - Eason
#29 - Moore
#34 - Rollins
#3… - Lockford

and proceed to the season with:

Ja - Melton
Bane - Rollins
ZW - Moore - Konchar
Clarke - Eason - Locford
JJJ - Aldama - Tillman

Wait for February for a good opportunity to bring a star using 20+ cap space, rookies, and picks.
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#9 » by psman2 » Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:21 am

esvl wrote:There is another Melton-type guy - Ryan Rollins.

My plan as of today is as follows (like anybody is interested :)):

1. Trade DB and #22 to Atlanta for #16.
2. Trade Adams to OKC for TRE and #34
3. Trade Tillie, #47, and future 2nd to someone for a top 2nd round pick.
4. Let Tyus and Kyle go.
5. On the draft select then:
#16 - Eason
#29 - Moore
#34 - Rollins
#3… - Lockford

and proceed to the season with:

Ja - Melton
Bane - Rollins
ZW - Moore - Konchar
Clarke - Eason - Locford
JJJ - Aldama - Tillman

Wait for February for a good opportunity to bring a star using 20+ cap space, rookies, and picks.


1. What is Atlanta using to match DB's salary? I would hope to score a little more value from DB but this might be his market value.
2. I think OKC would charge us something to eat all of Adams contract. Maybe just a 29 for 34 swap but something.
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#10 » by Mike lorenzo » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:55 am

Mavs fan and NBA geek here...they have a super exciting and fun team to watch...what would you think of something like that? do they? is it realistic...?

BLAZERS In:Melton/Brooks/#22/#29/Tillman Out:#7/#36/Future 1 (lot protect)

Bring Brooks/Melton to TPE CJ.. Blazers get the 2-Way wing they're looking for, decent depth in Melton/Tillman...and still have #22/#29/Bledsoe/Johnson/Little to update forward Grant...?

Nurk/Tillman
?(Grant?)/Winslow
Brooks/Little
Simons/Hart
Lillard/Melton

GRIZZLIES
In:#7/#36 Out:Melton/Tillman/Brooks/#22/#29/Future 1..

save up a ton and get another lottery pick...and a high 2, in a powerful 2 round draft... With the savings an offer above MLE 1+1 TO to Warren as a bet.. Anderson and Tyus come back...if there is something good in an ST...do it otherwise they keep them...

JJJ/Adams
Warren?/Clarke
#7/Ziaire/Kyle?
Bane/Konchar
Ja/Tyus?

thoughts??
who do you choose the 7? Griffin/Sharpe(if it falls?)/Murray/Duren??
1+1=11
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#11 » by VCfor3 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:52 pm

Mike lorenzo wrote:Mavs fan and NBA geek here...they have a super exciting and fun team to watch...what would you think of something like that? do they? is it realistic...?

BLAZERS In:Melton/Brooks/#22/#29/Tillman Out:#7/#36/Future 1 (lot protect)

Bring Brooks/Melton to TPE CJ.. Blazers get the 2-Way wing they're looking for, decent depth in Melton/Tillman...and still have #22/#29/Bledsoe/Johnson/Little to update forward Grant...?

Nurk/Tillman
?(Grant?)/Winslow
Brooks/Little
Simons/Hart
Lillard/Melton

GRIZZLIES
In:#7/#36 Out:Melton/Tillman/Brooks/#22/#29/Future 1..

save up a ton and get another lottery pick...and a high 2, in a powerful 2 round draft... With the savings an offer above MLE 1+1 TO to Warren as a bet.. Anderson and Tyus come back...if there is something good in an ST...do it otherwise they keep them...

JJJ/Adams
Warren?/Clarke
#7/Ziaire/Kyle?
Bane/Konchar
Ja/Tyus?

thoughts??
who do you choose the 7? Griffin/Sharpe(if it falls?)/Murray/Duren??

I think this is the only way we can move up somewhat high in the draft. If our FO feels strongly on someone then I'm fine with the deal, but I myself don't know who our target is. Your list seems pretty good but no idea what our FO may lean ha.
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#12 » by VCfor3 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:54 pm

psman2 wrote:
esvl wrote:There is another Melton-type guy - Ryan Rollins.

My plan as of today is as follows (like anybody is interested :)):

1. Trade DB and #22 to Atlanta for #16.
2. Trade Adams to OKC for TRE and #34
3. Trade Tillie, #47, and future 2nd to someone for a top 2nd round pick.
4. Let Tyus and Kyle go.
5. On the draft select then:
#16 - Eason
#29 - Moore
#34 - Rollins
#3… - Lockford

and proceed to the season with:

Ja - Melton
Bane - Rollins
ZW - Moore - Konchar
Clarke - Eason - Locford
JJJ - Aldama - Tillman

Wait for February for a good opportunity to bring a star using 20+ cap space, rookies, and picks.


1. What is Atlanta using to match DB's salary? I would hope to score a little more value from DB but this might be his market value.
2. I think OKC would charge us something to eat all of Adams contract. Maybe just a 29 for 34 swap but something.

I'd hold onto DB if that is his value. Melton I'd move in a deal somewhat like that, but if DB is going out it is either because someone is overpaying for him or we are using it in a bigger deal (Like Mike's deal if we have someone at 7 we love or if a young stud shakes loose).
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#13 » by esvl » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:16 pm

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/max-christie/

Max Christie looks like a guy we likely to select if he falls into the 2nd round, maybe even with #29.
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#14 » by VCfor3 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:36 pm

I feel like there are quite a few solid players that will be around for our picks. Guys that will simply be quality role players down the road, but near the end of the draft that is a great outcome. I also still think we move around at least a little in the draft.
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#15 » by jman3134 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:06 am

I'm hoping we aren't the ones that gave Caleb Houstan the promise, but I think we were....

Anyway, I'm hoping for Dalen Terry and Gui Santos. Both would be great selections for our winning next year. In the 2nd, Dominick Barlow looks great and has a tremendous amount of untapped potential.
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#16 » by VCfor3 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:39 pm

jman3134 wrote:I'm hoping we aren't the ones that gave Caleb Houstan the promise, but I think we were....

Anyway, I'm hoping for Dalen Terry and Gui Santos. Both would be great selections for our winning next year. In the 2nd, Dominick Barlow looks great and has a tremendous amount of untapped potential.

6'8 wing that can shoot. Yeah that might be us. I'm with you on wanting Terry instead but I'll trust the FO in whatever they end up doing.
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#17 » by MemphisX » Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:29 am

jman3134 wrote:I'm hoping we aren't the ones that gave Caleb Houstan the promise, but I think we were....

Anyway, I'm hoping for Dalen Terry and Gui Santos. Both would be great selections for our winning next year. In the 2nd, Dominick Barlow looks great and has a tremendous amount of untapped potential.



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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#18 » by jman3134 » Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:28 pm

I hope not. Someone did though. You don't keep your name in the draft and turn down the combine unless you have a promise somewhere.
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#19 » by VCfor3 » Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:34 pm

I believe John Hollinger has been hearing Terry and Moore as the two guys we may target if we aren't able to move up. If so then Houstan won't be our guy.
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Re: Draft 2022 

Post#20 » by jman3134 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:59 am

My strategies for the draft:

1) Do whatever it takes to possibly secure an early 1st and grab Jaden Ivey/Johnny Davis/Mathurin. I firmly believe that Ivey is gamechanging athletically and he actually complements Ja on the defensive end. He has elite upside there as an on ball disruptor as he showed in the U19 games and at Purdue last season. If nothing else, that backcourt duo packs houses and gyms for 10 years.

2) Trade the 2 1sts for a late lotto and a 2nd in order to grab Sochan. Sochan is the most understated player in this draft and a true defensive powerhouse. His impact on D will likely be elite at the next level, and his offensive game within the flow of things will be solid. I don't trust his 3 pt shot, but he can hit it and that's not his selling point. Besides Ivey, Sochan for me is the perfect fit for the Grizzlies offense. If we traded down to the early 2nd, I would hope for us to take Gui Santos if he is still available.

3) Keep the picks and grab Dalen Terry and Gui Santos. Hardy and Beauchamp would also be great options. Two wings with elite two way potential would be great. I would also be interested in resigning Kyle because I believe he brings a different dynamic, but the fact that Terry and Santos are both 6'8, can handle and play pick and roll, and have great potential defensively means that they are just what we need.

4) Nab Christian Koloko in the 2nd round. Teams are criminally sleeping on this man. He is 7'0 and can switch and guard on the perimeter. His offensive game is completely underdeveloped, but his potential impact as a defensive role player will keep him on the floor in the NBA. This is the kind of pick that wins championships.

5) Take Dominick Barlow in the 2nd. Barlow is another slept on prospect from Overtime Elite. At the Combine, he demonstrated that he has the raw athleticism to not only compete at the highest level, but see some success. With a 7'3 wingspan, Barlow has the speed and measurements to be a solid rotation player down the road in the NBA. His shooting form can use some work, but he was proficient from the midrange with Overtime Elite. Defensively, I really like his activity and potential. I love this guy's game. True gem.

6) Others: Ryan Turell, Trevor Hudgins, Jared Rhoden, Tyrese Martin, Kenny Lofton - Turell can shoot the ball lights out and has the fundamentals and savvy to play at the NBA level. You can always use a good shooter and Turell delivers that in spades. Good size at 6'7. Hudgins is an undersized point guard, but one of the best winners and absolutely a player you should have on your roster. If he isn't playing within a few years in the NBA, Hudgins will dominate overseas. His basketball IQ is off the charts and he is another 45% 3pt shooter like Turell. Hudgins will probably need the G League to develop his pick and roll savvy, but I would love to take a chance on him. Rhoden has great length and underrated playmaking ability. He can shoot it and is a great 3 and D option. He will be a rotation player for a long time in the league. Tyrese Martin is similar, and super gritty rebounding and getting to the basket. Lofton is a throwback, but is incredibly underrated because of his weight. He passes the eye test offensively on every level and is relentless inside. He still has a ton of room to grow on both ends and is very young still. He continues to cut weight and adjust defensively.

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