Possible Mighty Mouse Deals

[boogiesdad]

Trade ID #4389462

Golden State/MEM

Hakim Warrick
Damon Stoudamire

For

Patrick O'Bryant
Mickael Pietrus


Trade ID #4389489

Phoenix/MEM

Damon Stoudamire

For

Marcus Banks
2008 #1 via ATL

Trade ID #4389501

Memphis/MEM

Marko Jaric

For

Casey Jacobsen
Damon Stoudamire


Trade ID #4389511


Memphis/ORL

Fran Vazquez
Pat Garrity

For

Damon Stoudamire
Future #2


Trade ID #4389516

Memphis/MEM

Dorell Wright
Alonzo Mourning

For

Damon Stoudamire



Trade ID #4389528


Memphis/CHA

Sean May
Othella Harrington
2008 #2

For

Damon Stoudamire

[dark-child]

Man those are a lot of good ones. I will attempt to narrow my choices to a top five.

1. Golden State
2. Minnesota
3. Charlotte
4. Phoenix

Actually that is it, I probably would not do the other two.

[Hoops23]

Golden State/MEM

Hakim Warrick
Damon Stoudamire

For

Patrick O'Bryant
Mickael Pietrus

Nice trade for Memphis.
But you need to get his consent. If you does get his consent, thats a big gamble because he is a unrestricted free agent. If he signed elsewhere this summer then you gave away Warrick for nothing, unless you value POB a lot.

[boogiesdad]

MEM would re-up him probaly 5 years 25 million

[Hoops23]

Dorell Wright
Alonzo Mourning

For

Damon Stoudamire

Memphis getting an expiring and a young player for the undersized Damon!!! What a joke!!!

Even the Grizz takes out Dorell, they will not receive an expiring contract for Damon. No team will trade their expiring contract for him.

If the Grizz wants expirings for Damon, they better sweeten the deal.

MEM would re-up him probaly 5 years 25 million

So does Miami, a team of his choice before signing the qualifying offer. I believe the interest will be revived in the off-season.

[SD2042]

Trade ID #4389462

Golden State/MEM

Hakim Warrick
Damon Stoudamire

For

Patrick O'Bryant
Mickael Pietrus


Trade ID #4389489

Phoenix/MEM

Damon Stoudamire

For

Marcus Banks
2008 #1 via ATL

Trade ID #4389501

Memphis/MEM

Marko Jaric

For

Casey Jacobsen
Damon Stoudamire


Trade ID #4389511


Memphis/ORL

Fran Vazquez
Pat Garrity

For

Damon Stoudamire
Future #2


Trade ID #4389516

Memphis/MEM

Dorell Wright
Alonzo Mourning

For

Damon Stoudamire



Trade ID #4389528


Memphis/CHA

Sean May
Othella Harrington
2008 #2

For

Damon Stoudamire

I can get with the GSW trade. Pietrus can net the Grizz the perimeter D and decent perimeter shooting the Grizz need. However with his height of 6'6 that's suitable for the SG spot. Which means that the Grizz still need a SF to spell Rudy Gay off the bench. POB is unproven talent and the Grizz would have to see what he's capable of when he hits the floor.

Marko Jaric may be dating the Lima girl, but his skills as a PG is inconsistant to me at best. Plus he has a long term deal of three yrs. I think the Grizz can do better than Jaric.

Mia/Mem deal is more for salary cap space plus netting D.Wright. I can't say that Mia willfully will give up Wright w/o the Grizz gving up something more.

On Charlotte, Sean May is a walking injury waiting to happen despite his skills. He has yet played over half a season w/o sunstaining an injury that puts him down for the count.

[hptmatthew]

-= original quote snipped =-

So does Miami, a team of his choice before signing the qualifying offer. I believe the interest will be revived in the off-season.

is there a CBA reason why MIA didn't just give him the money he wanted?

Will the minds of MIA execs have changed enough this offseason to make that happen?

MEM really needs some expirings....JCN will need to be resigned, and he'll command much more than he's getting now, which is peanuts..

[pardon_my_interruption]

MEM would re-up him probaly 5 years 25 million

He's not worth that much.

[Mylie10]

Hey guys Warrior fan.

I've posted Boogie's trade here in the past. I like that deal for you guys and us.

For those of you who are not to familiar with Pietrus' game, here you go;

He's an incredible athlete. He's more of a small forward than a shooting guard. His handles suit him more for SF. He has been playing both SF and PF for the Warriors, but he is stronger at the SF spot.

His corner threes are a very nice feature of his game. What he does is very similar to Bruce Bowen. Problem is Bowen doesn't want to score, but he knows he needs to take that corner three.

When Pietrus first came into the league he was a lockdown defender. He still can be that guy, but he's fallen in love with the offensive accolades. If he can get back to the defensive stopper, then he could become an elite player.

He's an expiring if you want, or if the chemistry is strong and he plays well he might very well want to stay with you guys.

Patrick O'Bryant has the potential to be a very good center in this league. Nellie has no patience for younger players and isn't willing to trust anyone who doesn't completely fit his mold. But this kid has shown in Summer league, D-league last year, and a couple of really strong games against the clippers that he can be a game changer in the lane. He will be a steal for the team that gives him the legitimate tryout.

Or if you guys come to the conclusion that he's not ready either, then he comes off the books as well, giving you more financial flexibility next year.

Another option with Pietrus could be Kosta Perovic. He's a 7'2" center that has range on his jump shot. His Euro roots might be intriguing to the Gasol, Milicic, Navarro camp.

I hope we can get something done, because we really need help at back-up PG and Warrick would give us a little more length than what Pietrus was providing at the 4.

[lain]

i love Pietrus game for the grizz orrrr maybe I hate Jacobsen

[boogiesdad]

BOTH

[BarbaGrizz]

I like the phoenix trade...

[NBA Junkie]

There is no way the Bobcats would do that deal. They wouldn't give up May alone for Damon Stoudamire, let alone throw in a 2nd rounder. Granted Sean May has had a ton of injury issues in his short career, but you never give up a young big for a declining pg of Mighty Mouse's level. Those are the kind of deals that haunts a team if the young guy turns it around. Chances are Charlotte would just sign Earl Boykins if they were looking to sign a veteran pg who could score. Also I don't see the Magic giving up Fran Vazquez or the Heat giving up Dorell Wright to get Damon. Mighty Mouse just doesn't have the kind of value that he did a few years ago. Phoenix might take that deal if they are still desperate to lower the payroll and get rid of Banks, but if they haven't made a deal like that yet I have my doubts they ever will. If Don Nelson had it his way the Golden State deal would probably go down though if that was offered. Mullin may value O'Bryant and Pietrus though much more than Nelson.

[SD2042]

Go to the Magic board and tell me that they really aren't ready to give up on Fran Vasquez. The guy lied to the Magic mgmt about coming over the year he got draft. Since then, he signed a long term contract with some team overseas and is expected to stay there for a good while.

[shrink]

Trade ID #4389501

Memphis/MEM

Marko Jaric

For

Casey Jacobsen
Damon Stoudamire

Man those are a lot of good ones. I will attempt to narrow my choices to a top five.

1. Golden State
2. Minnesota
3. Charlotte
4. Phoenix

Actually that is it, I probably would not do the other two.

Its not a bad idea. Jaric is producing more and is always useful, but MIN doesn't need the production, so they'd probably prefer to shrink that contract down. I think his back court size helps MEM, and he's been useful playing alongside the young Foye and Telfair helping them direct the offense.

Only problem here is that while Jacobsenis necessary to make the deal fly financially, MIN is already at their roster limit and the deal would require Wolves owner Glen Taylor to buy out a fifth player this season. It might make more sense from MIN's side if this was a 2-for-2 deal, with a larger contract from MEM. The guy doesn't even have to be particularly productive .. just a deal that doesn't go past 2 years. Stromile Swift might make sense, if Darko's over that production hiccup. Warrick doesn't really fit, but he's youngish.

Foye was finally cleared yesterday to begin practicing, so a Damon deal might have lost a little luster with the head office.

[bgassassin]

All you have to do is buyout Jacobsen's one-year deal. Although I'm not a big fan of taking Jaric though.

[inrapscity]

dixon+graham for stoudamire. sorry but that's as good as it'll get.

[crazy_diamond]

dixon and graham for stoudamire is music to my ears...

[hptmatthew]

dixon+graham for stoudamire. sorry but that's as good as it'll get.

whoops...I think I just twisted an ankle running to sign that paper...I'd do this in the proverbial heartbeat....

[shrink]

All you have to do is buyout Jacobsen's one-year deal. Although I'm not a big fan of taking Jaric though.

The new CBA did away with the injury list, but it had an unintended consequence regarding trades. Teams that had fuull rosters used to put a player on the IL with a phantom injury, do the trade, then waive the player in the trade they didn't want. When the NBA did away with the IL, it's required teams to have no mroe than 15 players before and after the trade. This requires a team in an unbalanced trade to buy-out one of their own players, before they can do the trade.

In this case, MIN would probably have to buy out Doleac's expiring. This would be the fifth guy owner Glen Taylor had to pay not to play for the Wolves .. and six if he buys out Jacobsen too.

It's not undoable, but I think a better trade can be done in a bigger deal.