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Kyle Lowry's value in Memphis

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:43 pm
by Rocky5000
What do you think Lowry's value is to the Grizzlies now that Conley is starting? Last year it looked like Lowry could be the point guard of the future in Memphis, prior to his injury. This year he's had some good moments, but his role has been inconsistent due to the additions of Navarro and Conley as well as the blatant overplaying of Stoudemire. Per 48, Lowry averages 16.6 points, 7 assists, and 7 boards, if he was starting I think he'd end up with a few triple doubles by the end of the year.

Without making any moves, it seems Lowry will be stuck behind a equally good point guard in Conley for the foreseeable future. (Much like Steve Nash's first trip to Phoenix.) IMO Lowry would add more value to a team with a weak starting point guard, than he will ever add to Memphis.

Do you think that he will be moved to a place where he could start, or is he destined for a reserve role in Memphis? If Lowry isn't going to be moved, could Conley be dealt or packaged with Gasol for a big-name franchise player?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:15 am
by GrizzledGrizzFan
Wonderful thing is - the Grizz are in the driver's seat. Why not have two solid PG's? I'm not sold on Kyle as a starter yet anyway. We'll have ot see what the 2nd half of what, in essence, is his rookie season.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:22 am
by DeadAirDave
Lowry will be given, in practice and real game time, every opportunity to win or loose playing time. To assume the starting gig is Conley's is premature. It's all about who runs the team better on the floor.

I see no reason to trade him. Stoudamire is and has become an afterthought. Whether it's a 24-24 split or 40-8 those two players are the long term PG's for the Grizzlies.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:45 pm
by jefe
I don't understand why the OP would think the Grizz would consider trading him. Every team needs two point guards; currently, the Grizz have three - and I think Damon will be here no longer than absolutely necessary ... which would leave the Grizz with two point guards - the exact amount any team needs.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:54 pm
by Rocky5000
My thinking was that Lowry has more value to another team without a quality point guard, than he does off from the bench behind Conley. Therefore it's the perfect opportunity to make a trade. I disagree that the starting gig hasn't been given to Conley, after Conley returned, he immediately rocketed up the depth chart to starter. Lowry outplayed Stoudemire with Conley out, but never got the chance to start.

Look at Toronto with Calderon and Ford. Two of their three best players are point guards. I doubt that both will be on the Raptors by the end of next year.

Here are teams that I think Lowry could have a chance of starting upon.

In the East

Atlantic
New York - with marbury looking like he's on his way out, it'd be between lowry and robinson.
Boston - It's pretty much a wash between Rondo and Lowry, but Lowry is a much better scorer

Central
Cleveland - They still don't have a real point guard.
Indiana - while tinsley's been great this year, he's not a long-term solution for a rebuilding team

Southeast
Orlando - Nelson has fallen out of favor, he's not a true point guard and his backups aren't world-beaters.
Miami- Williams just isn't that good.
Atlanta - Do I need to explain?

Northwest
Seattle - Questionable but not a team with a strong point guard
Portland - ditto. Many point guards but none a clear starter.
Denver - Anthony Carter can pass but can't do anything else
Minnesota - Depending on the draft, they still might have a point guard need.

Pacific
Lakers - Fisher is good, but he's a backup guard at his age.
Clippers - Knight, Cassell, Dickau - either injured, defensively inept, or on the brink of retirements.

Southwest
Nobody really here. Possibly the Rockets. Like the blazers they have a lot of point guards but nobody who's a top flight guy.


That's 13-14 possible trading partners to whom Lowry has more value than he does to this team.

Unless you believe Lowry will end up starting, I see no reason to keep him if it's only going to be for 8-12 minutes a game. Look at the point guard backups on the contenders. If the Grizz want to emulate the best teams, a couple of 3 point shooting defensive stoppers would be a lot more valuable to the team than Lowry.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:14 pm
by dark-child
I think Lowry would be flattered by your compliments, but so far he does not seem like a starter unless there is an injury. He does belong in the league but he is a quality backup, change of pace guy. He does have the ability to prove us wrong but currently that is the assesment. The Grizz are not looking to move him at all but including him in a larger deal at another teams request would not necessarily be a deal breaker, depending on what is coming back.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:38 pm
by MoGrAdY
As a Magic fan I would love to bring in Lowry. Problem is you guys have no reason to deal him therefore we dont have anything to trade you. Unless ofcourse we took on some of your contracts, maybe Stromile?

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:04 pm
by crazy_diamond
imo, stro and lowry for expirings would be only a "maybe". if you want a sure deal, cardinal is your man. we could even add warrick.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:14 pm
by conleyorbust
What about a deal from the Hawks? Childress and Anthony Johnson for Lowry and Stro?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:45 pm
by crazy_diamond
[quote="conleyorbust"]What about a deal from the Hawks? Childress and Anthony Johnson for Lowry and Stro?[/quote
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:02 pm
by Dome
I think he's going to play 2nd fiddle to Conley for another while, until the Grizzlies decide they've seen enough of Conley and Lowry to decide who to keep and send the other one off in a trade to net a good fitting piece when the team is a little bit further in the rebuilding process so that it knows better what to look for. No need to trade him now, his value won't go down and by seeing what you've got first you limit the risk of regretting it later.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:00 am
by BarbaGrizz
I think he will be playing 20 minutes behind Conley...

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:16 am
by pardon_my_interruption
No reason to trade Kyle on his rookie deal just to move Stro or Cardinal.

Lowry would only be moved to acquire a starter or to sweeten a can't pass deal for the kind of player that rarely becomes available.

Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 1:39 am
by BigSlam
Any change of thought now that you have Critt on the roster?

Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 2:50 am
by GrizzledGrizzFan
BigSlam wrote:Any change of thought now that you have Critt on the roster?


Yup - adding Critt does change things. Lowry is expendable now, for the right deal.