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Why did you guys hate Gasol?

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 1:27 am
by Patterns
I was wondering why some Memphis fans hated Gasol? I heard that some fans wouldn't buy tickets unless Pau was gone.

Also, will you guys still be supporting Pau?

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 1:37 am
by Grizzfan777
he was just a guy who played when he felt like it

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 3:57 am
by Hewy29
Grizzfan777 wrote:he was just a guy who played when he felt like it


Agreed. And he played with no heart. He wasnt clutch, he didnt play defense and he kinda stop trying to take ppl down on the block. He just wanted to shoot baseline jumpers and avoid contact.

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 3:58 am
by GrizzledGrizzFan
Many of the folks that didn't like Pau felt that he played like a warrior for the Spanish National Team and a guy playing for a check for the Grizzlies. Not saying that's what he did, that was just many people's perception.

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 4:30 am
by Sarlonus
I must say, one of Pau's problems is he is not a winner. He isn't somebody that seems like he will win a championship for you. Some people will say that he won a world championship with Spain but you have to remember he didn't play in the final game. He kind of choked in Eurobasket 2007. He was 5/12 from the free throw line in the final game. He missed 5 of his 8 free throws in the 4th quarter. Not to mention he turned the ball over leading to Russia's game winning shot.

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 6:49 am
by SD2042
Despite Pau's offensive prowess. He wasn't the guy the Grizzlies should've build around in the first place. For starters, he isn't a clutch player that will come through for the team in the crucial moments. His rebound numbers may be pretty good, but he isn't a major rebounder like your TDs', your Cambys, and Kaman types. Pau is more of a second in command type. So despite his efforts on the offensive end. His defense would always come up short make the fans question his dedication in Memphis.

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 9:30 am
by Chitan
Sarlonus wrote:I must say, one of Pau's problems is he is not a winner. He isn't somebody that seems like he will win a championship for you. Some people will say that he won a world championship with Spain but you have to remember he didn't play in the final game. He kind of choked in Eurobasket 2007. He was 5/12 from the free throw line in the final game. He missed 5 of his 8 free throws in the 4th quarter. Not to mention he turned the ball over leading to Russia's game winning shot.


Gasol is not a winner???

Spanish national team

* Gold medal in 2006 FIBA World Championship
* Most Valuable player in the 2006 FIBA World Championship
* Silver medal in the 2003 European Championship
* Silver medal in the 2007 European Championship
* Bronze medal in 2001 European Championship
* 5th place in the 2002 FIBA World Championship
* 5th place in Olympic games -Diploma- (Athens 2004)
* Junior World Champion with Spain (1999)
* Junior European Champion with Spain (1998)

FC Barcelona

* ACB League Champion (2001)
* Spanish Copa del Rey Champion (2001)
* Most Valuable Player in ACB league (2001)
* Most Valuable Player in Copa del Rey (2001)

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:30 am
by salaner
Don't waste your efforts, chitan. Let Memphians console themselves with the thought he was a loser, let them bask in the glory of the new, winning Grizzlies, and let them watch the Lakers and Gasol fail precipitously from now on.

Yeah...

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:30 am
by bobobolas1
pau was a winner that 6years later in memphis he became a loser. Anyway, now he will get the winner attitude back. but of course, he used to be a winner.

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 1:19 pm
by jefe
Chitan wrote:Gasol is not a winner???

Spanish national team

* Gold medal in 2006 FIBA World Championship
* Most Valuable player in the 2006 FIBA World Championship
* Silver medal in the 2003 European Championship
* Silver medal in the 2007 European Championship
* Bronze medal in 2001 European Championship
* 5th place in the 2002 FIBA World Championship
* 5th place in Olympic games -Diploma- (Athens 2004)
* Junior World Champion with Spain (1999)
* Junior European Champion with Spain (1998)

FC Barcelona

* ACB League Champion (2001)
* Spanish Copa del Rey Champion (2001)
* Most Valuable Player in ACB league (2001)
* Most Valuable Player in Copa del Rey (2001)


and an NBA playoff record 0-12.

GrizzledGrizzFan wrote:Many of the folks that didn't like Pau felt that he played like a warrior for the Spanish National Team and a guy playing for a check for the Grizzlies. Not saying that's what he did, that was just many people's perception.


Bingo.

Specific instances of Gasol being booed at home, as far as I remember, included poor play in general immediately after his trade demand last January (i.e. a timely turnover, missed freethrows at the end of the game, settling for outside jumpers, etc.) and as recently as this fall when he would settle for (and miss) 18 foot jumpers instead of posting up in the waning moments of close games.

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 1:22 pm
by jefe
salaner wrote:Don't waste your efforts, chitan. Let Memphians console themselves with the thought he was a loser, let them bask in the glory of the new, winning Grizzlies, and let them watch the Lakers and Gasol fail precipitously from now on.

Yeah...


No one says Gasol isn't a talented player, if he plays with passion he's one of the better 7-footers in the world. For whatever reason, it seemed like he didn't play with any passion here in the past season and a half. No one doubts that he can excel in the shadow of Kobe Bryant or on the Lakers roster in general - most would agree that he's more suited to be a second banana.

There's no reason to come here with a condescending attitude.

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 1:44 pm
by Whateva
Gasol not a winner for Memphis fans ?? :o

Before Gasol, the Grizzlies were the worst team in NBA history, with Gasol the Grizzlies went to the Playoffs for the first time , he completely changed the face of the franchise, and now the memphis fans say he is not a winner, because the incompetent managers can't build a better team around him, and they have to bash someone, the star, Gasol.

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 2:00 pm
by GrizzledGrizzFan
Whateva wrote:Gasol not a winner for Memphis fans ?? :o

Before Gasol, the Grizzlies were the worst team in NBA history, with Gasol the Grizzlies went to the Playoffs for the first time , he completely changed the face of the franchise, and now the memphis fans say he is not a winner, because the incompetent managers can't build a better team around him, and they have to bash someone, the star, Gasol.


It could as easily be said that without Shane Battier the Grizzlies never made the playoffs.

Look, not all Grizz fans were Gasol haters. Gasol fans should be very pleased. Gasol haters should be very pleased. The only losers in this situation were true Grizzlies fans, who IMO got screwed by not getting the best deal for Gasol that could have been gotten.

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 2:21 pm
by dennis_mora91
I dont mind that somebody had hated Pau Gasol, i will be a Grizz

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 4:21 pm
by crazy_diamond
GrizzledGrizzFan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



It could as easily be said that without Shane Battier the Grizzlies never made the playoffs.

Look, not all Grizz fans were Gasol haters. Gasol fans should be very pleased. Gasol haters should be very pleased. The only losers in this situation were true Grizzlies fans, who IMO got screwed by not getting the best deal for Gasol that could have been gotten.


the main factor wasn

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 7:26 pm
by rag-time4
GrizzledGrizzFan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



It could as easily be said that without Shane Battier the Grizzlies never made the playoffs.

Look, not all Grizz fans were Gasol haters. Gasol fans should be very pleased. Gasol haters should be very pleased. The only losers in this situation were true Grizzlies fans, who IMO got screwed by not getting the best deal for Gasol that could have been gotten.


If any player or players were responsible for the Griz success, it would have to be Posey, Wells, and Outlaw. The Griz won 50 games after getting those three. :D

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 8:44 pm
by crazy_diamond
again, don

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 9:09 pm
by sp6r=underrated
Because he made a conveniant scape goat. He didn't like Memphis, and fans decided to blame him for everything. When the lakers advance in the playoffs with Gasol playing well, Grizz fans are gonna cry all day.

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 9:32 pm
by SD2042
Gasol is expected to play well wit hthe Lakers anyhow. He's playing alongside Kobe Bryant, a player who is capable of taking the team on his back plus he's a proven clutch player at that. So if anything. Having Gasol on the squad will make things more easier for KB24 so he don't have to do all the work.

Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 9:34 pm
by ShowtimeFan
salaner wrote:Don't waste your efforts, chitan. Let Memphians console themselves with the thought he was a loser, let them bask in the glory of the new, winning Grizzlies, and let them watch the Lakers and Gasol fail precipitously from now on.

Yeah...


Dude you are killing me...LOL

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3nHAuZdEH9Q&feature=related

Beardless Gasol warning, he looks pretty tough to me