Pacers trade with Memphis?

pacershereiam · Post #1 » by **pacershereiam** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:40 pm

What are your guys' thoughts on the trade rumor on sports illustrated? Mike miller for Diogu and Daniels? Would you guys trade Kyle Lowry for Stephen Graham or Andrew Owens?

What do you guys think of Mike Miller and Kyle Lowry?
Thanks

notque · Post #2 » by **notque** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:54 pm

It's Andre Owens, and no they wouldn't.

The Mike Miller trade is interesting though, wonder what they think.

Post #3 » by **boogiesdad** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:10 am

I think its a total crap deal by Wallace.

Bucky O'Hare · Post #4 » by **Bucky O'Hare** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:26 am

boogiesdad wrote:I think its a total crap deal by Wallace.

What's new pussycat? Whoooooooooaaaoooooo!

PhD Griz · Post #5 » by **PhD Griz** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:45 am

i'd do this version

Miller
Navarro

for

M.Daniels
I.Diogu
Shawne Williams

#4520124

bballpacen · Post #6 » by **bballpacen** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:15 am

^^No way from Pacers... We are to high on Williams. The only way we would part with him is if we get Conley, and I dont see Memphis doing that...

dark-child · Post #7 » by **dark-child** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:56 am

This was probably floated so another team could up the ante. I do find it ironic that the deal that could net the Grizzlies the best pieces will be for Mike Miller and not Pau Gasol.

The deal with Denver would be much better for the Grizz. Jr Smith, Najera, and Kleiza. If you plug Kleiza in at the power forward and resign JR Smith you are not inclined to spend cap space and could possibly wait a year. Your lineup in 08 would be:

Conley
JR Smith
Gay
Kleiza
Darko

The lineup is very inexpensive, young, and giving a max deal to Rudy in a few years is not harmful. The future would definetly look bright.

Hence if we are looking for a clear sign that the CAP room will not be spent, is if like the proposed Indiana deal we receive a defensive or athletic wing and young power foward with potential. The move would be sold as let wait and see what this group can do and the 09 crop is much better. That's my two cents.

chrbal · Post #8 » by **chrbal** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:03 am

Marquis Daniels sucks. Ike Diogu is not worth giving up Miller to get Daniels. Memphis should get more. Unless Daniels is just a layover in Memphis, this trade would be horrible.

jefe · Post #9 » by **jefe** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:41 am

What are Daniel's and Diogu's contracts like?

xxSnEaKyPxx · Post #10 » by **xxSnEaKyPxx** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:45 am

chrbal wrote:Marquis Daniels sucks. Ike Diogu is not worth giving up Miller to get Daniels. Memphis should get more. Unless Daniels is just a layover in Memphis, this trade would be horrible.

Daniels doesn't suck, not sure where you got that from. I think Diogu would be the main piece anyway. There are probably better offers than this though. Then again, there were better offers for Gasol too.

TunaFish · Post #11 » by **TunaFish** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:00 am

Let's see:

1. The Gasol trade is basically for K.Brown a 10 mil expiring.

2. The Shaq trade is basically for Marion a max contract expiring.

3. The Bibby trade is for multible players that add up to 8 mil expiring.

There seems to be a pattern here.

Indy offers 8 mil but none of them are expiring and none of the players offered are exceptional.

Not likely to be accepted.

Anyone who looks at any trade made and can't see the value of an expiring contract doesn't understand the current NBA.

ss1986v2 · Post #12 » by **ss1986v2** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:14 am

DGrangeRx33 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Daniels doesn't suck, not sure where you got that from. I think Diogu would be the main piece anyway. There are probably better offers than this though. Then again, there were better offers for Gasol too.

except none of those offers had the amount of expiring salary and future assets the lakers did. and neither does this pacers offer. zero chance this goes down unless the pacers parts are shipped to a 3rd team.

Wizop · Post #13 » by **Wizop** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:47 am

Diogu is still on a rookie contract so he's low risk. have to think my Pacers would want one of your three young point guards though. if we did the Miller deal, we could play Diener, Miller, Dunleavy, Foster, and Murphy together. what's wrong with that picture?

Post #14 » by **SD2042** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:20 am

Exercising my right to remain silent.

Jajwanda · Post #15 » by **Jajwanda** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:27 am

Still it's a stupid deal for Memphis not so much talent wise but this is why:

The key for the Grizzlies has to be cap room and this helps to a small degree. If I'm Memphis I make a three way deal like this:

Lakers- Odom to Washington
Wizards- Jamison to Memphis
Grizzlies- Miller, Milicic, and Warrick to Los Angeles

Post #16 » by **SD2042** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:22 am

At the end of that trade. You might as well renamed the team as the L.A. Grizzlies.

Jajwanda · Post #17 » by **Jajwanda** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:31 am

SD2042 wrote:At the end of that trade. You might as well renamed the team as the L.A. Grizzlies.

Nice

bobobolas1 · Post #18 » by **bobobolas1** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:55 pm

SD2042 wrote:At the end of that trade. You might as well renamed the team as the L.A. Grizzlies.

Nice, But lakers now have a rotation of 9-10 players and bynum is about to come. they dont need that 1 for 3.

SD2042...is not easy to recognize you without that picture.

Post #19 » by **SD2042** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:25 pm

lol ^^ Had to give D-12 his props for his part in the slam dunk contest. He put that "Superman" on em.

chrbal · Post #20 » by **chrbal** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:47 pm

DGrangeRx33 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Daniels doesn't suck, not sure where you got that from. I think Diogu would be the main piece anyway. There are probably better offers than this though. Then again, there were better offers for Gasol too.

Maybe he doesn't suck but, Kareem Rush and Marquis Daniels are both shooting guards....Daniels has started 1 game, Rush 10. Rush was out of the league last year, Daniels not so much.

Memphis trades Miller they shouldn't trade for the lesser of Kareem Rush and Marquis Daniels with a weak rebounding 6'8" pf as the "sweetner" of the trade.