conley jr?

#1knickfan · Post #1 » by **#1knickfan** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 1:24 pm

I know he's supposed to be your point guard of the future but from his stats he is only averaging 4 assists a game despite averaging 25 minutes. Is there a reason for this other than not having Paul Gasol around because that doesn't seem all that impressive.

grizzleGM · Post #2 » by **grizzleGM** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 7:16 pm

Want to trade him for your Lotto pick?

#1knickfan · Post #3 » by **#1knickfan** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 8:16 pm

grizzleGM wrote:Want to trade him for your Lotto pick?

In this mock offseason type thing the guy representing the Grizzlies is looking to deal Conley for a very good lottery pick. I am the Knicks and since I have really no shot at Rose I was toying with the idea. His stats so far seem kinda underwhelming but stats don't tell the whole story and thats why I came here.

dark-child · Post #4 » by **dark-child** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 10:55 pm

The fact that the Grizz would probably consider this should let you know everything there is. It is pretty much unanimous that if Rose is on the board and the Grizz are picking from the #2 position on that Rose is being drafted by the Grizz.

Furthermore is Conley the best point guard on the Grizz, this is actually debateable?

As unfair and impatient as it may be in judging him at this point in his career, he has not really distinguished himself from J. Critt. or Lowry.

ILikeTheGrizz · Post #5 » by **ILikeTheGrizz** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 11:08 pm

I have hopes for Conley, he's shown flashes. But not enough to pass on Rose by any means.

Hoops23 · Post #6 » by **Hoops23** » Sun Apr 6, 2008 2:24 am

Mike Conley Jr.? Well, I believe if the Grizz will have the #2 pick, they will draft Rose and trade Conley.

The best trade is to move Conley to a team that needs a PG and at the same time a lottery team like Portland.

How about Conley & the pick from LAL for Frye & #13?

GrizzledGrizzFan · Post #7 » by **GrizzledGrizzFan** » Sun Apr 6, 2008 4:06 am

How about Conley & the pick from LAL for Frye & #13?

I hope if the Grizz do draft Rose, they can get better than that for Conley. I'd rather seem them package Conley with Warrick or Miller and get a better pick and a player or a better player and a lesser pick. Frye + 13 doesn't do it IMO.

Hoops23 · Post #8 » by **Hoops23** » Sun Apr 6, 2008 10:14 am

I'd rather seem them package Conley with Warrick or Miller and get a better pick and a player or a better player and a lesser pick

If you draft Rose, are you willing to trade Conley, Lowry & Miller for Banks, Cook, Blount & Heat's no. 3 or 4 pick?

#1knickfan · Post #9 » by **#1knickfan** » Sun Apr 6, 2008 11:57 am

ILikeTheGrizz wrote:I have hopes for Conley, he's shown flashes. But not enough to pass on Rose by any means.

Hence the reason I came here.

Hoops23 · Post #10 » by **Hoops23** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 12:17 am

Hence the reason I came here

Cardinal & Conley for Rose & the #5 is not a bad deal.

#1knickfan · Post #11 » by **#1knickfan** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 1:12 pm

Hoops23 wrote:
Hence the reason I came here
Cardinal & Conley for Rose & the #5 is not a bad deal.

Yes it is. Conley is a good prospect but he is not worth a top 5 lottery pick +an exchange of an expiring for Cardinal.

waverider · Post #12 » by **waverider** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 4:31 pm

Hoops23 wrote:Mike Conley Jr.? Well, I believe if the Grizz will have the #2 pick, they will draft Rose and trade Conley.

The best trade is to move Conley to a team that needs a PG and at the same time a lottery team like Portland.

How about Conley & the pick from LAL for Frye & #13?

POR would probably like a deal like that or similar. Other possibilities involving M Miller would also be viable with POR adding an expiring LaFrentz and likely more.

Effigy · Post #13 » by **Effigy** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 6:23 am

Yeah, I was kicking around an idea like that as well. Frye and the 13th pick isn't a bad return on Conley. If you sit on a prospect too long he loses his value. We wouldnt' give that up for Adam Morrison or Ray Felton, but maybe last year we would have...

Post #14 » by **Danny Darko** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 10:05 pm

I know... I'm biased, but I have to think Critt with the same minutes all year Conley had would have established himself as the #1 pg on your current rotation.

GrizzledGrizzFan · Post #15 » by **GrizzledGrizzFan** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 1:41 am

Corvus Crow wrote:I know... I'm biased, but I have to think Critt with the same minutes all year Conley had would have established himself as the #1 pg on your current rotation.

Biased and incorrect. Watching them night in and night out since his arrival, no amount of extra PT will make JC a better 1 than Conley - or even Lowry for that matter.

grizzleGM · Post #16 » by **grizzleGM** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 1:37 pm

If Critt is going to become something of value in this league, it is going to be as a SG. He has shown NOTHING of value to suggest that he will ever be a PG that can direct a team. He is a slasher that has trouble finishing. Right now he has shown that he could be a back-up SG.

Post #17 » by **SD2042** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 8:35 pm

To me, from what I've seen and heard about Critt. He could've benefit from another year or two in college. That way, he could've continue to better his game.

PhD Griz · Post #18 » by **PhD Griz** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:55 pm

news flash to all non-griz fans.....

JCrit is not a PG in the NBA......in memphis he did not record a single minute of play with him at PG (every single minute he played was next to either conley or lowry)....

sd2042....I also think Conley, like JCritt, could have used another year in college.....

Mr. Kite · Post #19 » by **Mr. Kite** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:47 pm

Hoops23 wrote:Cardinal & Conley for Rose & the #5 is not a bad deal.

Memphis would be all over that.

BMiller52 · Post #20 » by **BMiller52** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:24 am

Would you guys trade Conley to Sac for #12 and Shelden Williams?