Kyle Lowry

[CaliHeat]

Just interested in Memphis fans opinions on Kyle Lowry the player and also if you believe he has what it takes to be a full time starting PG?

The trade Ive seen most is:
Udonis Halsem
for
Kyle Lowry
Jason Collins

My only problem with that trade is that Kyle Lowry is unproven as a starter, even though I would probably do this trade. Miami's organization hold Haslem pretty highly so I dont know if they would do it.

What do Memphis fans think of this idea:

Udonis Haslem
#52
2 of Mia's 3 2nd round picks in 2009 (They have Ind, Phi and their own)

for

Kyle Lowry
#28
Jason Collins

IF NOT, I want to see if there is any way to get Kyle Lowry from Memphis in a trade not involoving Udonis Haslem.

Would Mem trade Lowry for #52 and 2-3 2nd round picks next year, plus cash?

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

I like Haslem, I'm just not that crazy about him. No way in heck we'd throw in the pick as well. First offer looks fair enough, just don't know if I'd do it.

[dark-child]

While I would love to see a deal for Haslem, it would seem like it would be dependent upon what the Grizz do with the #5 pick overall and if the Heat actually select Beasley over Mayo.

[jefe]

I also like Haslem, but I don't see us parting with an expiring to get him. Regarding Lowry, of our three point guards, I think he's the one to go - but also you have to realize that he does have value beyond few second rounders (IIRC there was an obstinate Kings fan who thought Shelden Williams for Lowry was a good deal and most of the Grizz board and the trade board thought this was not enough for Lowry). The kid has proven he belongs in the NBA IMO.

[Hoops23]

Haslem for Collins and Lowry is a fair deal IMO, but I doubt thats where the direction the Grizz wants. I doubt the Grizz to agree with the trade.

If ever there's a trade the GRizz wants with Miami, I bet its for the #2.

BTW, how about Lowry for Cook if Heat draft Beasley?

[CaliHeat]

I see the Grizzles targeting two players in the draft (Given OJ Mayo and Jerryd Bayless are gone), that is Kevin Love PF UCLA and Eric Gordon SG Indiana.

I think Love has a chance to be a pretty good low post player and would give the Grizzles a low post scoring for the future.

But I also think Gordon could help put the Grizzles over the top as well. He tested as the best overall athlete at the Orlando camps. I think a trio of Conley Jr., Gordon and Gay is SCARY in the future.

Memphis lineup with Haslem trade:
Take Eric Gordon at #5
Take Joey Dorsey at 28

PG: Conley Jr. / Crittenton
SG: Miller / Gordon / Crittenton
SF: Gay / Miller
PF: Haslem / Dorsey / Warrick
C: Darko / Marc Gasol / Dorsey

Without Haslem trade:
Take Kevin Love at #5
Take Courtney Lee or other SG prospect at 28

PG: Conley Jr. / Crittenton
SG: Miller / Lee / Crittenton
SF: Gay / Miller
PF: Love / Warrick
C: Darko / Jason Collins / Marc Gasol


Over both teams will be good in the future but I do love a trio of Conley Jr, Gordon and Gay. Even though I know Memphis can still get that done without the Haslem trade. Just giving my input.

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

I agree with your assessment of the the Grizz's wants/needs in light of the way the first four picks will likely play out. With that in mind if the Grizz can't move up, I'd like to see them deal for the Knicks' pick at #6 and take Love and Gordon.

[bobobolas1]

If we are not taking a PG in the draft, i wouldnt trade K.Lowry. The reason is... Im not sure how healty Conley is goiing to be. Picture he misses about 25games next season (not so much knowing he gets injured easily), So...we would have to play at PG with Javaris (not ready yet) and mikemiller, (we did it once and tho he did well it is not an option.

Javaris and Conley still 20 years old. And lowry just 22. We trust them to future.

[CaliHeat]

Would Memphis do this:

Udonis Haslem

for

Jason Collins
#28 (or Kyle Lowry)

[GrizzMan]

As a Grizzlies' fan (I know, it sounds ridiculous, haha), I would trade Kyle Lowery AND Jason Collins FOR Udonis Haslem. With a scoring PF, I would use #5 on Mayo (not going to happen, but a boy can dream...) or Gordon (whom I think will be a stud). I would then use Mike Miller and Hakim Warrick as trade bait...more draft picks, cap space, and/or a young stud.

PG: Conley Jr. / Crittenton / JCN
SG: Gordon / JCN / Crittenton / Gay
SF: Gay / Draft
PF: Haslem / Dorsey / Draft
C: Darko / Marc Gasol / Dorsey

We won't be winning any titles in the near future, but we are rebuilding. With the return we could get on Miller and Warrick AND the cap space in 2009, this could be a quick turn around...

[Hoops23]

If we got beasley, I think Miami will consider that trade of Haslem for Lowry & Collins.

Is my question is hard enough to answer? Lowry for Cook if Miami draft Beasley?

[dantian]

If we got beasley, I think Miami will consider that trade of Haslem for Lowry & Collins.

Is my question is hard enough to answer? Lowry for Cook if Miami draft Beasley?

I'm not a Heat fan but your question is simple. Cook can be had anytime for free. And you don't really want him even for free. Grizzs are not competing just yet, they don't really even want Haslem, if the Gasol trade indicates anything about the state of mind of your owner.

My question, would the Suns get Lowry for Tucker and a 2nd rounder or two?

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

-= original quote snipped =-

My question, would the Suns get Lowry for Tucker and a 2nd rounder or two?

IMO no.

Lowry has proven himself as, at the least, a point guard that it capable of starting and finishing out games. While he only has one season as a body of work to date, the future looks to be bright for him. The same can't be said yet about Tucker.

[Hoops23]

I'm not a Heat fan but your question is simple. Cook can be had anytime for free. And you don't really want him even for free. Grizzs are not competing just yet, they don't really even want Haslem, if the Gasol trade indicates anything about the state of mind of your owner.

My question, would the Suns get Lowry for Tucker and a 2nd rounder or two?

I'm not a Suns fan but your question is simple. Tucker can be had anytime for free. And you don't really want him even for free.

[bgassassin]

Your #2 pick (if it's Beasley) better be involved or you guys are just spinning your wheels in the mud.

[Hoops23]

^^^ Just like I said in my previous post at page 1, I believe its the #2 the Grizz are really interested in.

For the Heat, its trading the pick for a very good value in return or keeping it. Thats how simple its is for us.

Keeeping Beasley is not a problem, I dont see why people are viewing it like its a complicated to have him. The only reason Riley like Rose is because he fills a need, PG. If its just for ordinary player or a lateral move, I believe Riley will move Haslem first before he trades Beasley.

[bgassassin]

No one has said it would be an issue for you guys to keep Beasley and I did see you mention about us pursuing the #2. I'm just saying that there's no need to come up with any other scenarios unless the #2 is involved. Not directed just at you, but all Heat fans.

[CaliHeat]

IF the Heat got the 22nd pick of the draft (Magic's) would the Grizzles do this trade:

#22
either #52 this year or 2009 2nd round pick

for

#28
Kyle Lowry

[jefe]

IF the Heat got the 22nd pick of the draft (Magic's) would the Grizzles do this trade:

#22
either #52 this year or 2009 2nd round pick

for

#28
Kyle Lowry

No. Lowry has proven he's an NBA quality PG and is surely worth more than the difference between 28 & 22 and a 2nd.

[bgassassin]

IF the Heat got the 22nd pick of the draft (Magic's) would the Grizzles do this trade:

#22
either #52 this year or 2009 2nd round pick

for

#28
Kyle Lowry

If I didn't know any better, I would believe that you read my post and decided to make this one anyway.