Grizz Draft Workouts

Post #1 » by **SD2042** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 10:54 pm

http://3shadesofblue.blogspot.com/

http://www.cmimemphis.com/grizblog/node/295

The following are potential draft workouts starting with today with

Israeli- Omri Casspi,
Davon Jefferson- USC
Mississippi State- Charles Rhodes.

Credit to 3SoB and Memphis Flyer's Chris Herrington.

grizzleGM · Post #2 » by **grizzleGM** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 11:51 pm

I would love to be able to see Monday's workout...

Love, Jordan, McGee, and Dorsey all going at it!!! WOW!!!

Post #3 » by **SD2042** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 8:47 pm

Open workouts

http://www.grizzblogs.com/index.php?/dr ... t_workouts

Tony Barone Sr. on today's workout evaluations.
http://www.grizzblogs.com/index.php?/fe ... barone_sr/

Post #4 » by **boogiesdad** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 10:45 pm

Word is Dorsey and Love really impressed them today.........

I'd love to see a Mayo/Dorsey draft.

bgassassin · Post #5 » by **bgassassin** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 11:04 pm

I just don't want Dorsey unless we can get him in the second round. He's not worth a first rounder to me.

Post #6 » by **jman3134** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:14 am

bgassassin wrote:I just don't want Dorsey unless we can get him in the second round. He's not worth a first rounder to me.

He has no semblance of an offensive game, but I could see him being drafted in the 1st for his defense alone. I think he is quite the headcase though just from his conduct on the court. I would stay away from him, but he would be a nice player if you simply consider his game.

Post #7 » by **boogiesdad** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:20 pm

we need muscle and a dirtywork player on the inside........

someone that hustles, rebounds and plays D

there is only one of those in the Draft-----Dorsey

Post #8 » by **SD2042** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:25 pm

Q&A with draft workout players

Kevin Love
http://www.grizzblogs.com/index.php?/fe ... evin_love/

Joey Dorsey
http://www.grizzblogs.com/index.php?/fe ... ey_dorsey/

DeAndre Jordan
http://www.grizzblogs.com/index.php?/fe ... re_jordan/

JaVale McGee
http://www.grizzblogs.com/index.php?/fe ... ale_mcgee/

Jeremy Pargo
http://www.grizzblogs.com/index.php?/fe ... emy_pargo/

Post #9 » by **SD2042** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:15 pm

boogiesdad wrote:we need muscle and a dirtywork player on the inside........

someone that hustles, rebounds and plays D

there is only one of those in the Draft-----Dorsey

boogie, what's your take on these two centers?

Nathan Jawai
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nathan-Jawai-1404/

Robin Lopez
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Robin-Lopez-1073/

GrizzledGrizzFan · Post #10 » by **GrizzledGrizzFan** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:26 pm

I'm not boogie, but I stayed at a hotel nicer than a Holiday Inn Express one time...

Haven't seen Jawai play in anything other than YouTube footage against fellow Aussies, but he appears to have all the tools. Likely VERY raw NBA wise, but could have HUGE upside potential.

Robin Lopez (the male of the twins) has a game that will translate well to the NBA. IMO Robin's game (especially his defense) will translate better to the NBA, where he should be a rotation player, whereas Brooke's game would best translate to the WNBA - very busty.

Edit - Jawai may be available at 28, Robin will be long gone.

Post #11 » by **SD2042** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:54 pm

Jawai is expected to come to the NBA with some raw offensive skills. His aggressiveness on the boards and solid defense is what he's known for. Although he can stand some improvement on offense and defensive rotations, Jawai's job by crashing the boards and keeping the slashers at bay should be enough to upgrade the Grizz defense in the interior.

Post #12 » by **jman3134** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:22 pm

I actually believe that we should select Serge Ibaka with the number 28 pick or trade down. (or JJ Hickson) Either way, I would be happy. Ibaka has some serious potential with his world class athleticism and improving perimeter game. He's still very young and could become a serious threat three years down the road.

Post #13 » by **jman3134** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:23 pm

SD2042 wrote:Jawai is expected to come to the NBA with some raw offensive skills. His aggressiveness on the boards and solid defense is what he's known for. Although he can stand some improvement on offense and defensive rotations, Jawai's job by crashing the boards and keeping the slashers at bay should be enough to upgrade the Grizz defense in the interior.

Still, he has not played at such a high level. He is certainly a project and would not get much playing time from the start. I think he is a good second round pick, but might be a stretch at 28.

Post #14 » by **SD2042** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:14 pm

He's a possible stretch at 28 due to some of his limitations no doubt. Who do you see the Grizz picking at 28?

Post #15 » by **jman3134** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:46 pm

SD2042 wrote:He's a possible stretch at 28 due to some of his limitations no doubt. Who do you see the Grizz picking at 28?

There are three players I have in mind for the Grizzlies at that slot.
Because we do not need a point guard at this time, I will narrow it down to two. If we somehow trade Conley Jr. or Crittendon on draft day, I believe that Mario Chalmers is still an option. In regards to Chalmers, he provides defense at the point guard position and can be played as a combo guard. We have too much of this already, so it would not be wise to select him unless we get rid of one or two of the following: Conley Jr., JCN, Lowry, Crittendon. Chalmers is a special defensive player which our team needs to have. (we are sorely lacking a defensive stopper) Chalmers is able to get out in transition and possesses a picture perfect shot. The only reason that he is slotted on the border of the first / second round is his off the ball work this season at Kansas. Because of this, scouts question whether or not he can be a full time option at the point. Anyone who has really watched him over and over can see that he does possess the court vision and ball handling ability to thrive at the next level. Does he need to dominate the ball? No. But I believe that this is good for our organization. His vision is tremendous and his shooting is vastly underrated. Look for him to be a player down the road.

I'll stick with the two players that I mentioned previously. My personal favorite is JJ Hickson due to his tremendous upside. He was a force in the ACC and really caught my eye prior to conference play. He has a nice array of post moves and possesses the athleticism to score immediately in the NBA. I have no doubts that he will stay on an NBA roster for a long time to come. Plus, I believe that he could be a difference maker down the road.

But, the most upside I see is in youngster Serge Ibaka. I watched him in the Nike Hoop Summit and was thoroughly impressed with his athleticism and knack for getting to the hoop. Because of this, I believe that he will be able to become a slasher at the PF position. Not only is his face up game pretty good at this young age, but he is working on his perimeter shot. Because of this, I think that he will be a huge threat on so many levels. There are questions concerning his limited experience in high European divisions, but he certainly possesses world class athleticism that will put people in the stands. I believe that this guy is a project worth selecting in the first round and hopefully the Grizzlies put some thought into him.

Post #16 » by **SD2042** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:21 am

Here's the recent workouts from the Grizzlies camp on Thursday which features D.J. White, James Mays, and Brian Butch

Tony Barone's comments from Thursday's workout.
http://www.grizzblogs.com/index.php?/dr ... barone_sr/

DJ White interview
http://www.grizzblogs.com/index.php?/dr ... _dj_white/

James Mays and Brian Butch interviews
http://www.grizzblogs.com/index.php?/dr ... tch//#mays

On what you're saying about the team needing a defensive stopper. Without a doubt that's true. Chalmers got the defense part down, but considering he came from a program that ran half court set plays. How will he play in a run and gun style. Will Chalmers be able to adjust to the quickness of the style or will it expose his weaknesses. Defensively, I believe he'll do just fine considering he's a well known defender, but offensively he may be expose perimeter wise since he's more of a set shooter than he's able to create his own shot in a run and gun. Chalmers offense benefits from transition and spot up shots according to DX. The Grizzlies transition offense wasn't that great this past season. So unless they will be making changes to better that issue. I can't say for certain Chalmers could be a future Grizz.

On Serge Ibaka, I have no comments on him since I haven't seen any games with him to form an opinion.

JJ Hickson like you said, has some promise to be a solid contributor for a NBA team. Definately around the offensive end and rebounding wise. Just improve on the defensive end and he could really be of good help to a team.

Post #17 » by **jman3134** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:13 pm

SD,

Chalmers played in the fastest pace offense in college basketball. (with the possible exception of UNC) Kansas was able to run offensive schemes, but they thrived in transition. I don't know why you think Chalmers would be exposed for this.

I agree that JJ is a bit tentative on defense and does not necessarily have the tools to thrive on this end, but he is an excellent offensive weapon in the post. Instant offense and his position defense is not half bad. In time, I would worry less about his defense.

Post #18 » by **SD2042** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:36 pm

jman3134 wrote:SD,

Chalmers played in the fastest pace offense in college basketball. (with the possible exception of UNC) Kansas was able to run offensive schemes, but they thrived in transition. I don't know why you think Chalmers would be exposed for this.

I agree that JJ is a bit tentative on defense and does not necessarily have the tools to thrive on this end, but he is an excellent offensive weapon in the post. Instant offense and his position defense is not half bad. In time, I would worry less about his defense.

I'm not saying that he'll be exposed in transition offense. He will be exposed in perimeter offense if he's drafted to a team that more perimeter oriented like D'Antoni's style for example. I think that drafting Chalmers here if you even trade out Conley or Lowry or whomever doesn't either improve or worsen the position.

GrizzledGrizzFan · Post #19 » by **GrizzledGrizzFan** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:47 pm

Radolph/Lee workout reviews posted at:

http://www.cmimemphis.com/grizblog/

and

http://3shadesofblue.blogspot.com/

Post #20 » by **jman3134** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:23 am

SD2042 wrote:
jman3134 wrote:SD,

Chalmers played in the fastest pace offense in college basketball. (with the possible exception of UNC) Kansas was able to run offensive schemes, but they thrived in transition. I don't know why you think Chalmers would be exposed for this.

I agree that JJ is a bit tentative on defense and does not necessarily have the tools to thrive on this end, but he is an excellent offensive weapon in the post. Instant offense and his position defense is not half bad. In time, I would worry less about his defense.

I'm not saying that he'll be exposed in transition offense. He will be exposed in perimeter offense if he's drafted to a team that more perimeter oriented like D'Antoni's style for example. I think that drafting Chalmers here if you even trade out Conley or Lowry or whomever doesn't either improve or worsen the position.

My point is that I believe Kansas was one of the most perimeter oriented teams in the NCAA. They shot tremendously from long range. And Chalmers was one of the usual catalysts on the fast break. He can shoot the long ball and he is able to sacrifice his offense for the good of the team. Personally, I feel that he would better our squad from a defensive standpoint, but it makes no sense to select him with Conley, Lowry, JCN, and Crittendon still on hand.