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Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 4:27 pm
by gswhoop
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/59294/20090521/rubio_will_use_leverage_to_avoid_memphis_okc/“Rubio doesn’t want to go to Memphis, and he especially does not want to pay money out of his own pocket with that huge buyout for the honor of doing so," said a source that spoke to DraftExpress.com. "Fegan wants him in L.A., and if he can’t have him there, he wants him in Sacramento. Definitely not Oklahoma City.
So what happens now? I think the best scenario would be to trade the pick for something worthy. How a three way trade with GSW and Utah which ultimately land you Boozer and Utahs 1st Round while Utah Receives whatever player they need to get Kirilenko's contract out of their hands and GSW's 7th overall.
Would this be appealing enough?
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 4:30 pm
by gswhoop
GSW would be getting Kirilenko and rubio
but will most likely have to send out Maggette or Crawford, Azubike and & Brendan Wright
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 4:43 pm
by GrizzledGrizzFan
Good grief, this board isn't particularly busy and there are already threads with this being discussed. Right now we're in the posturing stages. The GM and Head Coach from the Grizz will be in Spain this weekend to watch and likely meet with Rubio. We'll know more after that. The Grizz should be able to do much better than your scenarios though.
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 4:44 pm
by Latinoking90
Are you really surprised after Pau Gasol and Juan Carlos Navarro?
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 4:46 pm
by GrizzledGrizzFan
Latinoking90 wrote:Are you really surprised after Pau Gasol and Juan Carlos Navarro?
Yet Pau's brother is playing here now and seems happy enough. In fact, he came to the Grizz after both Pau and JCN had left - hmmm...
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 5:14 pm
by Hooch20
What I don't understand is why he'd be willing to go to Sacramento. If I'm Rubio I love the idea of Memphis or OKC.
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 6:29 pm
by jman3134
The idea is that any market in California is a bigger market. But, this is all hearsay at this point, as Rubio has not come out and said that he would not play for the Grizz. This is the speculation around the league based on Rubio's agent choice and his history with Yi.
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:33 pm
by I Am Awesome-O
I don't buy any of this garbage until I see a direct quote from Rubio. For all we know, this "source" could be George Maloof.
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:02 am
by bflewis
Hooch20 wrote:What I don't understand is why he'd be willing to go to Sacramento. If I'm Rubio I love the idea of Memphis or OKC.
Sac is a better basketball town than mehmphis or okc!
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 3:41 am
by GrizzledGrizzFan
bflewis wrote:Sac is a better basketball town than mehmphis or okc!
Better NBA town? Perhaps. Better basketball town - not even close to Memphis.
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 5:56 am
by Downtown
It looks like the "RUBIO DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY IN MEMPHIS THEREFORE THEY SHOULD TRADE HIM" posts will persist right up until draft day. It's too bad and is going to take away the lustre of the Grizzlies having the #2 pick. I suppose Grizzlies fans are going to have to defend silly nonsensical trades rather than enjoy the moment.
The funny thing is I think they should trade Rubio, but not for the reasons other teams fans think. I just feel that they have a decent starting four yet need an impact power forward. They aren't getting Blake Griffin, and no other draft prospect power forward is of the caliber they need, so I say make a trade for a really good power forward. Or trade the pick to get a really good sixth man and a bit lower pick to get two solid bench players and sign a highend free agent power forward.
A topnotch power forward in free agency, an impact sixth man, and a talented draft prospect to me would go alot farther than drafting Rubio and trying to trade Conley for a stopgap power forward.
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 8:00 am
by LF91
Would you guys like a straight up Beasley for #2 swap to help facilitate a Bosh to Miami deal?
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 4:01 pm
by GrizzledGrizzFan
LF91 wrote:Would you guys like a straight up Beasley for #2 swap to help facilitate a Bosh to Miami deal?
No - I wouldn't be happy with that at all.
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 4:58 pm
by Downtown
I would do a Beasley for #2 straight up.
By the way, I've been proposing some really off the wall scenarios this morning. Al Horford in some sort of package. Jason Thompson and Hasheem Thabeet for Rubio and Gasol. Even Devin Harris and the #11 pick for Gay, Conley, and Jaric, with Memphis keeping the #2 pick.
Just exploring.
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:58 pm
by I Am Awesome-O
Downtown wrote:I would do a Beasley for #2 straight up.
By the way, I've been proposing some really off the wall scenarios this morning. Al Horford in some sort of package. Jason Thompson and Hasheem Thabeet for Rubio and Gasol. Even Devin Harris and the #11 pick for Gay, Conley, and Jaric, with Memphis keeping the #2 pick.
Just exploring.
Rubio>Thompson
Gasol>Thabeet
Why on Earth would Memphis do a trade like that?
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:02 pm
by Downtown
Honestly I don't know. I've just been conjuring up all sorts of ideas today off the top of my head.
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:04 pm
by I Am Awesome-O
Downtown wrote:Honestly I don't know. I've just been conjuring up all sorts of ideas today off the top of my head.
I do like the idea of Al Horford though. I wonder if Atlanta would be willing to part with him.
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:19 am
by Hoops23
Downtown wrote:I would do a Beasley for #2 straight up.
It wont happen because the Heat will not trade Beasley for Rubio straight up. Beasley is better than Rubio and the Grizz should add a sweetener to entice the Heat.
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 5:44 am
by brassviews
Some New News VIA DraftExpress
READ IT ITS WORTH IT
Scott Cacciola of the Memphis Commercial Appeal pens an excellent introductory piece about potential Grizzlies target Ricky Rubio, with quotes from the likes of Tony Barone Sr, Pau Gasol, Fran Fraschilla, Chris Collins, Lang Whitaker and yours truly.
”General manager Chris Wallace and coach Lionel Hollins spent Saturday in Spain to scout Rubio again, a trip clouded by an Internet report that indicated Rubio may not want to sign with Memphis. Jonathan Givony, president and director of scouting for DraftExpress.com, cited an anonymous source last week who said Dan Fegan, Rubio's agent, wants Rubio in Los Angeles, where the Clippers hold the first overall pick.
Whether this is mere posturing on Fegan's part is unclear. But if there are obvious obstacles -- including a reported $6 million buyout from Rubio's contract with DKV Joventut – many scouts and coaches familiar with Rubio think the Grizzlies would be wise to surmount them.
"He is by far the smartest player in the draft," Givony said. "His knowledge of the game, his overall feel –it’s amazing. Wherever he goes, those fans are going to fall in love with him. He's such a fun player to watch, so unpredictable, so creative. To me, it's a no-brainer for a franchise like Memphis."
This weekend we were able to learn quite a bit more about the Rubio situation, after speaking with one of the best possible sources on this matter. Unfortunately this source would rather not be named, for obvious reasons. Regardless, this is information that almost anyone interested in the NBA draft would like to read, though, so we decided to run it.
From what we can gather, Rubio is most certainly going to want to have a large say in the team that drafts him, and if he’s not satisfied with where he lands, he may just decide not to ever come over, which would obviously be a huge embarrassment for the team that picks him. He is in a great situation with his hometown team outside of Barcelona, and it wouldn’t make sense to leave there for anything less than the perfect spot from his standpoint.
“The bottom line here is that Ricky has a large buyout—5.75 million Euros, both for this year and the year after. Depending on the team that selects him, he’s going to make a decision on whether he comes over or not. If he’s not satisfied, there is a very real possibility that he doesn’t come. His buyout is going to cost him a lot of money, and if it doesn’t make sense for him, he won’t do it. He is going to have to pay for the privilege of playing in the NBA”
According to the source, Rubio’s decision is going to come down to two things: winning and the role he’ll play for the team that picks him. The size of the market of the team that drafts him is apparently irrelevant, since his appeal will be on a global scale, reaching far past his team’s city limits.
With that in mind, it appears that the Memphis Grizzlies will have to make a very strong sales pitch to Rubio for him to move off his initial stance of not wanting to play for them. Rubio’s concerns stem from a number of factors, ranging from the potential poor fit of playing alongside a very ball-dominant guard in O.J. Mayo, to the negative experiences conveyed to him by the likes of Juan Carlos Navarro and Pau Gasol.
Oklahoma is a more attractive situation, but there are concerns there about how he fits with Russell Westbrook and whether the two can play together. For now they are not being ruled out.
The question now is how Memphis will respond. Can Chris Wallace and company convince Rubio that his concerns are unfounded? The Grizzlies have not made it a secret that they consider O.J. Mayo to be their point guard of the future, and it may be in their best interest to “maximize the asset” in the words of our source, by trading the pick. This is not going to be a hostile situation, though, so don’t expect any fireworks in the media. Behind the scenes, efforts will be made to steer him the direction of the teams that appear to be most attractive, mainly Sacramento, Dallas, Indiana, Portland and New York, although not all those teams may have the assets or the interest level needed to get a deal done with Memphis. At this stage, Rubio appears unlikely to pull out of the draft.
What’s interesting is that Memphis’ scouting mission to Spain this weekend may not have gone quite as well as planned, as Rubio’s team was beaten handily by Real Madrid in game three of the playoffs, behind a very average showing by the Spanish prodigy. Rubio posted 6 points, 3 assists, 5 turnovers and 3 steals on 2/6 shooting in 26 minutes of action. Both Memphis GM Chris Wallace and head coach Lionel Hollins were in attendance.
Re: Rubio to Avoid going to Memphis.
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 6:38 am
by I Am Awesome-O
^Wasn't DraftExpress the same website that said Memphis is dying to take Thabeet at 2, a rumor that was shot down almost immediately by local media outlets that actually have connections with the team.
I don't listen to anything these national website guys say anymore, it's all BS. Again, the article includes no quote from Rubio, only "one of the best possible sources on this matter," who of course goes unnamed. Give me a break, it's all BS until I see a direct quote from Rubio.
Then the article lists these completely random teams that Rubio would be interested in playing in (Sacramento, Dallas, Indiana?, Portland and New York). How would he be more happy playing for the freaking Pacers, a team that has sucked for years and doesn't have a future, than for the Grizzlies, a team that has sucked for years but actually has young talent?
And even if this is true, it's making Rubio sound like a real bitch, and if he really feels this way about his draft situation, then I want no part of him. He can't come into the league thinking he is better than any team, and then try to facilitate where he wants to play. But I don't believe he feels this way at all until he speaks for himself.