Thabeet?

dookieguy · Post #1 » by **dookieguy** » Thu Jun 4, 2009 12:33 pm

I heard Memphis is quite interested in Hasheem Thabeet, and would prefer him over Rubio.

But what happens to Gasol if Thabeet is drafted? Will he slide to PF? I doubt he can play PF effectively, considering how he's quite slow?

GrizzledGrizzFan · Post #2 » by **GrizzledGrizzFan** » Thu Jun 4, 2009 12:36 pm

But what happens to Gasol if Thabeet is drafted? Will he slide to PF? I doubt he can play PF effectively, considering how he's quite slow?

Gasol can't play the 4, at least not for significant minutes. Gasol is proving to be a very effective 30+ minute a game center. So ask yourself, why would the Grizzlies be interested in another center when they have so many other needs? The real answer is, they likely aren't...

Slyk · Post #3 » by **Slyk** » Thu Jun 4, 2009 3:10 pm

It's me or all these questions about Thabeet over Rubio is getting anoying?

dookieguy · Post #4 » by **dookieguy** » Thu Jun 4, 2009 3:28 pm

GrizzledGrizzFan wrote:
But what happens to Gasol if Thabeet is drafted? Will he slide to PF? I doubt he can play PF effectively, considering how he's quite slow?

Gasol can't play the 4, at least not for significant minutes. Gasol is proving to be a very effective 30+ minute a game center. So ask yourself, why would the Grizzlies be interested in another center when they have so many other needs? The real answer is, they likely aren't...

My point exactly. Yet people seem to think the Grizz want him if not Rubio.

BarbaGrizz · Post #5 » by **BarbaGrizz** » Thu Jun 4, 2009 8:40 pm

from nbadraft.net

The Grizzlies are enamored with Thabeet's defensive potential and it appears he will be the pick. For a team that has had bad luck with Spaniards, Rubio would be a huge gamble (contract buyout concerns) and a tough one to recover from at 2 if the pick backfired. There's always the chance someone will move up to 2 for Rubio, but if the Grizzlies keep the pick, Thabeet appears to be the choice.

This is the main reason for us to shy away Rubio. But is this even true?

my answer:

Sorry, but when did the Grizzlies had a bad luck with spaniards? Pau Gasol was an all-star, Navarro made the rookie team and Marc Gasol is playing really well.
If the Memphis has bad luck drafting Spanish guys, then Chris Wallace should forfeit the pick, cause when we drafted americans, we also haven´t won a title...

Make sense?

Effigy · Post #6 » by **Effigy** » Thu Jun 4, 2009 8:51 pm

I agree that I just don't see how Thabeet fits on this team unless you're going to trade Gasol. Either Draft Rubio or deal him for an impact player. Don't pass on him for a project center who doesn't fit your team.

Post #7 » by **SD2042** » Thu Jun 4, 2009 9:07 pm

Exactly. The only way I see the Grizz draftin Thabeet is that if Gasol is moved b/c he can't play the PF spot like GGF stated. The Grizz still need a scoring PF in the worse way. I rather the Grizz draft Rubio to trade since he has much value right now especially for the future when he becomes more effective with experience. If the trade of Rubio can bring the Grizz back a second option PF scorer, then the Grizz are off in the right direction.

It_Was_Typed · Post #8 » by **It_Was_Typed** » Thu Jun 4, 2009 10:01 pm

Chad Ford mentioned a few days ago, Thabeet would be a bench player getting 15 MPG for a couple of seasons if he were drafted by the Grizzlies SMH.

Just draft Ricky Rubio and trade his rights for a damn PF!

Downtown · Post #9 » by **Downtown** » Thu Jun 4, 2009 11:32 pm

I just can't see the Grizzlies looking to make alot of trades. They just struggled through the season because they made a decision to play their young guys lots so they can gain both experience, and lock into knowing how to play as a unit with each other. Now they are going to trade Gasol and start fresh with Thabeet and go through the same thing? I don't think so.

Grizzlies fans just need to be patient, and not pay alot of attention to the various rumors that will surely increase leading up to the draft. It's the same every year. Speculation runs amok even if it makes no sense. Don't waste alot of your time dwelling on it.

360 · Post #10 » by **360** » Thu Jun 4, 2009 11:40 pm

It_Was_Typed wrote:Chad Ford mentioned a few days ago, Thabeet would be a bench player getting 15 MPG for a couple of seasons if he were drafted by the Grizzlies SMH.

Just draft Ricky Rubio and trade his rights for a damn PF!

I think I may have told you this before, but that OJ logo is pretty sick. Will they sell his shoes at the Grizzlies store? I'm guessing not in this market.

It_Was_Typed · Post #11 » by **It_Was_Typed** » Thu Jun 4, 2009 11:59 pm

360 wrote:
It_Was_Typed wrote:Chad Ford mentioned a few days ago, Thabeet would be a bench player getting 15 MPG for a couple of seasons if he were drafted by the Grizzlies SMH.

Just draft Ricky Rubio and trade his rights for a damn PF!

I think I may have told you this before, but that OJ logo is pretty sick. Will they sell his shoes at the Grizzlies store? I'm guessing not in this market.

Being a fan of Nikes and Juice, it was only right I get his logo lol.

These two O.J. shoes have been released so far:

Sadly, they were released in limited quantities in New York and Los Angeles. If you have the money and some luck, you might get a pair via eBay.

Dumb Nike :nonono:

360 · Post #12 » by **360** » Fri Jun 5, 2009 1:22 am

I like both pairs.

I plan on getting an authentic Mayo jersey for next season. Too bad I won't be able to get his shoes. This market really sucks.

Joel Embust · Post #13 » by **Joel Embust** » Fri Jun 5, 2009 10:57 pm

It_Was_Typed wrote:
Just draft Ricky Rubio and trade his rights for a damn PF!

That would be the better move to make. I've become a believer of Mike Conley. It would be a waste to trade him / give him bench minutes after his post-allstar performance.

GopherIt! · Post #14 » by **GopherIt!** » Sat Jun 6, 2009 4:35 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:from nbadraft.net

The Grizzlies are enamored with Thabeet's defensive potential and it appears he will be the pick. For a team that has had bad luck with Spaniards, Rubio would be a huge gamble (contract buyout concerns) and a tough one to recover from at 2 if the pick backfired. There's always the chance someone will move up to 2 for Rubio, but if the Grizzlies keep the pick, Thabeet appears to be the choice.

This is the main reason for us to shy away Rubio. But is this even true?

my answer:

Sorry, but when did the Grizzlies had a bad luck with spaniards? Pau Gasol was an all-star, Navarro made the rookie team and Marc Gasol is playing really well.
If the Memphis has bad luck drafting Spanish guys, then Chris Wallace should forfeit the pick, cause when we drafted americans, we also haven´t won a title...

Make sense?

What they were trying to communicate is that the two previous Spanish players they had left on bad terms. JCN may have played well but he wanted out. Gasol was very frustrated with losing in Memphis. Neither player has said good things about the Grizzlies since they left. It's bad luck in that sense.

BarbaGrizz · Post #15 » by **BarbaGrizz** » Sat Jun 6, 2009 5:53 pm

GopherIt! wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:from nbadraft.net

The Grizzlies are enamored with Thabeet's defensive potential and it appears he will be the pick. For a team that has had bad luck with Spaniards, Rubio would be a huge gamble (contract buyout concerns) and a tough one to recover from at 2 if the pick backfired. There's always the chance someone will move up to 2 for Rubio, but if the Grizzlies keep the pick, Thabeet appears to be the choice.

This is the main reason for us to shy away Rubio. But is this even true?

my answer:

Sorry, but when did the Grizzlies had a bad luck with spaniards? Pau Gasol was an all-star, Navarro made the rookie team and Marc Gasol is playing really well.
If the Memphis has bad luck drafting Spanish guys, then Chris Wallace should forfeit the pick, cause when we drafted americans, we also haven´t won a title...

Make sense?

What they were trying to communicate is that the two previous Spanish players they had left on bad terms. JCN may have played well but he wanted out. Gasol was very frustrated with losing in Memphis. Neither player has said good things about the Grizzlies since they left. It's bad luck in that sense.

That´s not all true.

Gasol made 3 playoffs in a roll and HE didn´t show up to play in the offseason. That´s when Grizz supporters started to call him soft.Also, I don´t believe that he has said bad things, cause he´s brother came to town. I mean, if Memphis was so awful to Pau, his younger brother would prefer to stay in Spain, where he´s a king and was making a good money.

JCN was a diferent case. I agree that he was frustrated of losing so much. I think that he in his year with us he have losted more games than he lost in his all career, but the money issue played a a big part in this case. Also, he never had closed the door to come back, although is extremely improbable.

GrizzledGrizzFan · Post #16 » by **GrizzledGrizzFan** » Sat Jun 6, 2009 6:39 pm

JCN got "Iavaroni'd".

360 · Post #17 » by **360** » Sat Jun 6, 2009 9:16 pm

I don't understand the love for JCN. That guy flat out sucked. That little floater that was suppose to be his specialty...he NEVER hit it. He was not a consistent 3pt shooter and he couldn't defend. Why the obsession with him? I honestly believe that he was one of the worst players we've had.

BarbaGrizz · Post #18 » by **BarbaGrizz** » Sun Jun 7, 2009 5:58 pm

360 wrote:I don't understand the love for JCN. That guy flat out sucked. That little floater that was suppose to be his specialty...he NEVER hit it. He was not a consistent 3pt shooter and he couldn't defend. Why the obsession with him? I honestly believe that he was one of the worst players we've had.

Have you ever seen him play in FIBA or in Spain? I´m mean, the game is the same, he has not forgot how to play. Put him in a good situation and he´ll be a Leandro Barbosa type of player

DubaLakers · Post #19 » by **DubaLakers** » Mon Jun 8, 2009 6:05 am

Thabeet is the guy I'd take no doubt. Rubio is offensively skilled, a floor general, but he's not a defender, and that's half the game.

GrizzledGrizzFan · Post #20 » by **GrizzledGrizzFan** » Mon Jun 8, 2009 12:55 pm

DubaLakers wrote:Thabeet is the guy I'd take no doubt. Rubio is offensively skilled, a floor general, but he's not a defender, and that's half the game.

Sorry, but that's just not correct. Rubio's a very solid defender. What he lacks in speed he makes up for in wingspan and smarts. Don't know where you're getting your info, but it's just not right.