Thabeet Cancels Grizz Workout
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Here's two questions I'm thinking. How does Thabeet feel about the idea of playing in Memphis if he was drafted by them? The news from Saturday stated that he somehow injured his shoulder. To me an injury this close to draft time is a red flag and could damage his ranking come Thursday night. That report to me sounds a bit vague considering how limited the info was reported. Put this next question on your mind. In theory, what if this report of Thabeet's injury was false enough to give him a way out from working out with the Grizzlies to maybe keep from being drafted by them?
Here's two questions I'm thinking. How does Thabeet feel about the idea of playing in Memphis if he was drafted by them? The news from Saturday stated that he somehow injured his shoulder. To me an injury this close to draft time is a red flag and could damage his ranking come Thursday night. That report to me sounds a bit vague considering how limited the info was reported. Put this next question on your mind. In theory, what if this report of Thabeet's injury was false enough to give him a way out from working out with the Grizzlies to maybe keep from being drafted by them?
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I heard it was because he had read the reactions of too many Grizzlies fans to his possibly being taken by Memphis and seriously hurt his feelings...

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If the Grizzlies had nothing but trash at the center spot, I would take Thabeet. Right now, since the Grizz have Marc Gasol, there's no need for him. Thabeet will be useful for a team that really needs someone like him. He's reliable on the defensive end with his rebounding and shot blocking ability. He will have to add more weight(15-20lbs) of muscles to keep from be out muscle in the post. Offensively, he's a project and it will take some time for that part of his game to develop well. So if he gets with a big man coach who will teach him the ins and out of the NBA from a center's perspective, Thabeet may have a chance.
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I really hope the Grizzlies pass on Thabeet.
Yeah, he does a good job of clogging the paint and blocking/altering shots, but what else can he do? He's not that great of a rebounder (don't be fooled by the stats) and is raw offensively.
Gimme Harden at two or trade for a PF.
Yeah, he does a good job of clogging the paint and blocking/altering shots, but what else can he do? He's not that great of a rebounder (don't be fooled by the stats) and is raw offensively.
Gimme Harden at two or trade for a PF.
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I rather draft at #2 and make a trade for a PF.
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Be it Ricky Rubio, James Harden, Tyreke Evans, Kevin Love, Al Jefferson, I don't care.
Anybody but Hasheem Thabeet.
Anybody but Hasheem Thabeet.
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It_Was_Typed wrote:Be it Ricky Rubio, James Harden, Tyreke Evans, Kevin Love, Al Jefferson, I don't care.
Anybody but Hasheem Thabeet.
Werd!

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I think I would prefer to trade out of this pick. Neither Rubio or Thabeet fit our needs.
The latest rumor of Minny trading picks or taking on salary to get #5 and then forward #5 and #6 to us for #2.
Or the flip trade of us trading and taking salary from WAS to get #5.
Trading down just benefits us more than this pick.
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If the Minny Deal with WAS went down, we get #5 Hill, #6 Evans. That far and away trumps the #2.
The latest rumor of Minny trading picks or taking on salary to get #5 and then forward #5 and #6 to us for #2.
Or the flip trade of us trading and taking salary from WAS to get #5.
Trading down just benefits us more than this pick.
IE:
If the Minny Deal with WAS went down, we get #5 Hill, #6 Evans. That far and away trumps the #2.
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The thought of Jordan Hill playing for the Grizz makes me ill. I'd honestly rather see them take Tyler Hansbrough or DeJuan Blair at 6. Hill - bleh.

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I'd rather wait on Darrell Arthur than select Jordan Hill. Both are at least two years away, so it would be pointless to take Hill. If Arthur was in this draft, he'd be going in the top five to ten himself.
Just trade #2 for Kevin Love. Please.
Just trade #2 for Kevin Love. Please.
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I think our price for the #2 is pretty high, to the degree that Minnesota has to acquire an additional lottery pick to secure the #2 from us. Hence Kevin Love alone for the #2 is not in play, which is good as that is not nearly enough. There was some speculation that Thabeet would still be in play if we traded down and acquiried the additional lottery pick. That is important because if you need the extra pick to acquire him than he obviously is not your first choice with your current lone lottery pick. I would guess internally the consensus is for the wing player either Evans or Harden, and the additional lottery pick would be to satisfy ownership in acquiring Thabeet if he is still available.
I still believe that given the undecisiveness in Sacremento they will eventually sweeten the pot and offer Thompson or Garcia, along with #4 & #23 to acquire #2 and filler. The word is they want to sell the #23 for cash so this could be a viable alternative. There pick would obviously be Rubio which would allow them to make the splash they need as they don't factor in as being a player in free agency and they are not in a win now mode.
Having the #4, #23 and Garcia allows us to not have comptemplate Thabeet. #4 - Evans, #23 - Casspi,
#27-Rodrigo Beauboi, #36-Josh Hyvelvt.
I still believe that given the undecisiveness in Sacremento they will eventually sweeten the pot and offer Thompson or Garcia, along with #4 & #23 to acquire #2 and filler. The word is they want to sell the #23 for cash so this could be a viable alternative. There pick would obviously be Rubio which would allow them to make the splash they need as they don't factor in as being a player in free agency and they are not in a win now mode.
Having the #4, #23 and Garcia allows us to not have comptemplate Thabeet. #4 - Evans, #23 - Casspi,
#27-Rodrigo Beauboi, #36-Josh Hyvelvt.
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dark-child wrote:I still believe that given the undecisiveness in Sacremento they will eventually sweeten the pot and offer Thompson or Garcia, along with #4 & #23 to acquire #2 and filler. The word is they want to sell the #23 for cash so this could be a viable alternative. There pick would obviously be Rubio which would allow them to make the splash they need as they don't factor in as being a player in free agency and they are not in a win now mode.
Having the #4, #23 and Garcia allows us to not have comptemplate Thabeet. #4 - Evans, #23 - Casspi,
#27-Rodrigo Beauboi, #36-Josh Hyvelvt.
This is the way I see it- Say Memphis offered Miami the 5th pick, Javaris Crittenton, and the Lakers pick in 2010 for the #2 pick (Beasley) last year. Riley would have laughed his ass off and then abruptly hung up the phone. So if Sacramento offered #4, #23, and Garcia for #2, why shouldn't Memphis laugh it off and hang up?
Miami wanted the #5, Rudy Gay, and Mike Conley for Beasley and Mark Blount. So, why shouldn't we want Kevin Martin, Jason Thompson, and the #4 for Rubio and Jaric? Is he not the concensus #2 prospect that Beasley was last year?
Whether he wants to play here or not, Memphis CANNOT turn into the league's b****. We've already done enough to earn that status with the Pau trade, and taking someone other than Rubio at 2 or trading him for a weak-ass package would just solidify that status.
Memphis needs to take Rubio at 2, and hold onto him until someone comes with a knockout offer, because I guarantee demand for him will become higher and higher as draft night goes on.
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The problem with that theory is you don't have any leverage. Rubio can just stay with his Spanish team and every other team in the league knows that. Ideally, he wants to come to the US, but there's no ticking clock for an 18 year old.
I think you need to stop looking at prospects. Your team is starting to resemble the 2006 Boston Celtics ... which isn't too surprising since Chris Wallace is your GM.
If your owner was dedicated to winning he would be in the best position out of any other NBA team right now. He has cap space, the #2 pick, OJ Mayo and Rudy Gay. Any GM worth his salt could translate that to 2-3 stars. Then suddenly you have the blue print for winning.
Because as of right now, you're just a developmental team for the rest of the NBA who will poach all your young players. I would be looking at players that are locked up with long-term deals.
Monta Ellis is available? Go after him. He's legit. Monta Ellis and #7 for OJ, #2 and cap fodder seems fair. Those are the deals you need to look at and now is the time to do it. Marcus Camby is available ... why not absorb him?
Chris Wallace doesn't know how to win. He's got a decent eye for talent, but he's too obsessed with youth. Youth movements have a shelf life of 3 years, because after that you start to lose playing time for your players and it stunts their development. It's time to start using your assets to acquire good players not more assets. Gotta change your mindset.
I think you need to stop looking at prospects. Your team is starting to resemble the 2006 Boston Celtics ... which isn't too surprising since Chris Wallace is your GM.
If your owner was dedicated to winning he would be in the best position out of any other NBA team right now. He has cap space, the #2 pick, OJ Mayo and Rudy Gay. Any GM worth his salt could translate that to 2-3 stars. Then suddenly you have the blue print for winning.
Because as of right now, you're just a developmental team for the rest of the NBA who will poach all your young players. I would be looking at players that are locked up with long-term deals.
Monta Ellis is available? Go after him. He's legit. Monta Ellis and #7 for OJ, #2 and cap fodder seems fair. Those are the deals you need to look at and now is the time to do it. Marcus Camby is available ... why not absorb him?
Chris Wallace doesn't know how to win. He's got a decent eye for talent, but he's too obsessed with youth. Youth movements have a shelf life of 3 years, because after that you start to lose playing time for your players and it stunts their development. It's time to start using your assets to acquire good players not more assets. Gotta change your mindset.
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tlifeset wrote:The problem with that theory is you don't have any leverage. Rubio can just stay with his Spanish team and every other team in the league knows that. Ideally, he wants to come to the US, but there's no ticking clock for an 18 year old.
I think you need to stop looking at prospects. Your team is starting to resemble the 2006 Boston Celtics ... which isn't too surprising since Chris Wallace is your GM.
If your owner was dedicated to winning he would be in the best position out of any other NBA team right now. He has cap space, the #2 pick, OJ Mayo and Rudy Gay. Any GM worth his salt could translate that to 2-3 stars. Then suddenly you have the blue print for winning.
Because as of right now, you're just a developmental team for the rest of the NBA who will poach all your young players. I would be looking at players that are locked up with long-term deals.
Monta Ellis is available? Go after him. He's legit. Monta Ellis and #7 for OJ, #2 and cap fodder seems fair. Those are the deals you need to look at and now is the time to do it. Marcus Camby is available ... why not absorb him?
Chris Wallace doesn't know how to win. He's got a decent eye for talent, but he's too obsessed with youth. Youth movements have a shelf life of 3 years, because after that you start to lose playing time for your players and it stunts their development. It's time to start using your assets to acquire good players not more assets. Gotta change your mindset.
You haven't been keeping up with things have you? Rubio is on the verge of securing his buyout. Add to that the fact that he wholly burned the bridge between himself and DKV. When Rubio opted to stay in the draft, he's all in. There's no doubt he and Fegan are all about getting him to the best situation as possible, but the bottom line is that if Memphis drafts and retains him, he'll play in Memphis.

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Grizzlies are better off trading #2 before the Draft starts. If they wait and draft Rubio, they'll get crappier offers since everyone seems to think Rubio doesn't want to be in Memphis.
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Grizzled, I haven't been keeping up with things? Let me ask you ... has he agreed on the buy out terms yet? No. So, unless you have some Spanish source that is feeding you information then understand this ... you know nothing about the situation. Burned bridges? Are you a DKV fan? Look, everybody knows that kid wants to play in the NBA and everyone knows the kid doesn't want to play for Memphis. You have ZERO leverage. What you do have are multiple teams competing for the right to draft Rubio, and you should use that to add proven players not more assets ... which was the actual point of my post. Care to comment on that part?
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tlifeset wrote:Care to comment on that part?
Not really. Getting more burned out on the issue the closer we get to the draft. The sac bee had the report in regards to the buyout. I agree that trading Rubio for picks/vets/assets whatever may be in the Grizz's best interests, but I will also admit that I'm fully sick and tired of holier than thou fans (not necessarily you) rolling in and telling the Grizz how it is, how bad their team and talent are and what they need to do.
Something good to add on to getting Mayo happens and it is suddenly on the verge of souring - and that sucks.
Just my 2 cents.

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What is with all these rookies being so picky and not wanting to play in memphis? They should just be happy to play in NBA.
wiretap: Thabeet, Ricky Rubio and Stephen Curry have all refused workouts with the Grizzlies.
wiretap: Thabeet, Ricky Rubio and Stephen Curry have all refused workouts with the Grizzlies.
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I really hope you guys take Rubio. Nobody in the 2-5 range fits a need, so go best talent available, which is Rubio, and move Conley for another promising young player. Don't be bullied and don't psyche yourselves out by taking the reach at 2. It's a 2 man draft. Deep breath, now draft Ricky.
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MEM is a nicer place to live than OKC, wtf does he care about if they pay or not he can leave after his three year contract, but OKC would be a better fit for him as far as they need a big bad!
I like Thabeet as the #2 pick. Rubio is already a pain in the ass, he's not quick or fast and he's not a shooter, and he cant defend, he's not super athletic, he's just a excellent passer and heady pg, he's a very good pg, but those 4 things I just mentioned are huge.
I watch my LAL every game and there #1 biggest weakness is a blazing fast Pg and if they can shoot threes forget about it it's a nighmare, see aaron brooks.
I like Thabeet as the #2 pick. Rubio is already a pain in the ass, he's not quick or fast and he's not a shooter, and he cant defend, he's not super athletic, he's just a excellent passer and heady pg, he's a very good pg, but those 4 things I just mentioned are huge.
I watch my LAL every game and there #1 biggest weakness is a blazing fast Pg and if they can shoot threes forget about it it's a nighmare, see aaron brooks.