Thabeet = worst #2 since Sam Bowie

Doubledyll · Post #1 » by **Doubledyll** » Wed Sep 2, 2009 3:04 am

I have been reading about Thabeet lately and going over some tape of him in College. I have come to the conclusion that Hasheem Thabeet may go down in history as the worst #2 pick since Sam bowie in the 1984 draft. Bowie was drafted before the likes of Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley to name a few. The reason i am posing on the Grizzly board is that i would like to know what Grizz fans think of the pick. Thabeet was drafted ahead of Harden, Flynn, and DeRozan. Those 3 have already been mentioned as possible Rookie of the Year runner ups. Especailly after having Marc Gasol prove himself as a stron C last year; why would the Memphis Grizzlies draft another C ?

Do you agree with me that Thabeet may be the worst pick since Sam Bowie? Why or why not?

sfernald · Post #2 » by **sfernald** » Wed Sep 2, 2009 4:22 am

No

Danny Ferry
Shawn Bradley
Keith Van Horn
Stromile Swift
Darko Miličić

Dude, there were a bunch of losers drafted at #2.

And really, everybody can have their opinion, but the bottomline is that it can only be determined that Thatbeet is a true bust after about three years in the NBA at the minimum.

Doubledyll · Post #3 » by **Doubledyll** » Wed Sep 2, 2009 5:46 am

What is clear, is that He will go down in history as one of the worst. Probably not as bad as Darko, but pretty close.

Post #4 » by **SD2042** » Wed Sep 2, 2009 6:03 am

Gotta give Thabeet some time on the court to see if he was worth selecting at #2. He has yet played a real NBA game so right now it's a wait and see deal.

jefe · Post #5 » by **jefe** » Wed Sep 2, 2009 12:40 pm

He hasn't played a single second of an NBA game, so nothing is "clear" by any means; but, acting like your opinion is a certain conclusion is clearly stupid.

GrizzledGrizzFan · Post #6 » by **GrizzledGrizzFan** » Wed Sep 2, 2009 1:39 pm

Thabust was/will be, IMO, a bad pick. Not just because he's (IMO) not that great a player. He's something the Grizz (IMO) didn't need. Can't be compared to Darko though. Passing on the likes of Bosh, Melo and DWade - wow. Additionally this was a (from all appearances) a very weak draft. Even if he doesn't pan out, he just ends up being more Stromile (bad pick in a weak draft) than Bowie or Darko...

dark-child · Post #7 » by **dark-child** » Wed Sep 2, 2009 8:40 pm

You were reading about him and going over some tape of him in college. Really, right I bet you were.

You then pronounce with such conviction after what can hardly be considered "research" that he will be the absolute worst at that number. Really?

Why don't you just say, phones lines are open, call me at 555-XXXX.

This is really silly! Keep it moving Dude!

Downtown · Post #8 » by **Downtown** » Wed Sep 2, 2009 9:50 pm

Yeah, it's a bad topic at this stage. While it was pretty much unanimous when they drafted Thabeet that he wasn't the player fans wanted, to proclaim now that he'll be the worst #2 pick is just setting yourself up for putting your foot in your mouth.

On the other hand, as a Seattle fan who witnessed three consecutive drafts of seven foot busts I know anything's possible.

Post #9 » by **SD2042** » Wed Sep 2, 2009 10:04 pm

I always wonder why the Sonics kept drafting these centers whom eventually turned into big busts.

bgassassin · Post #10 » by **bgassassin** » Thu Sep 3, 2009 1:38 am

At least Bowie has some sort of excuse.

Once it became evident that Rubio was not going to be the pick, I was really hoping for Evans. I think that one will come back to bite us.

Alan Ogg · Post #11 » by **Alan Ogg** » Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:44 pm

Bowie was a decent player who had terrible injury problems. He would have had a more solid career if he had been healthy, but would have still gotten dumped on for the guy picked before Jordan. Not his or the Blazers fault, really.

I don't think Thabeet will be very good, either, but we'll just have to wait and see.

One thing I'm hoping, though, is that they play the Go-Go's song "We've Got The Beat" whenever he comes into the game or blocks a shot..........if this happens, you heard it here first, and I am taking all credit for it!

vanjulio · Post #12 » by **vanjulio** » Thu Sep 3, 2009 5:27 pm

The GoGo's song was mentioned like 6 months ago long before the draft

Joe Kleazy · Post #13 » by **Joe Kleazy** » Thu Sep 3, 2009 6:50 pm

Seeing as though NOBODY in that draft will ever be able to sniff the level of MJ I wouldn't go that far. It was known that thabeet was extremely raw and lightweight before he was drafted so it was a reach for that spot but now a bowie bad. What made it soo bad was the fact that you already had a center in gasol and could have went with a PG or wing instead.

Alan Ogg · Post #14 » by **Alan Ogg** » Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:50 pm

vanjulio wrote:The GoGo's song was mentioned like 6 months ago long before the draft

Yeah, by me. :lol:

sfernald · Post #15 » by **sfernald** » Fri Sep 4, 2009 12:02 am

Alan Ogg wrote:One thing I'm hoping, though, is that they play the Go-Go's song "We've Got The Beat" whenever he comes into the game or blocks a shot..........if this happens, you heard it here first, and I am taking all credit for it!

Funny, I was thinking of a different 80s song...

Every time he dunks, they should play the song, "the beat is on!" But then I looked it up and I realized they were saying "the heat is on!", not the beat is on.. Oh well...

BRIGGS · Post #16 » by **BRIGGS** » Mon Sep 7, 2009 7:28 pm

He was not very good his first year at Uconn. I don't think anyone believed that he would be some kind of superstar player but if he can get up to the level of 10-11 points 10-11 rebounds and 3 blocks with solid D you got your money worth in this draft.

imgrindin247 · Post #17 » by **imgrindin247** » Tue Sep 8, 2009 3:03 am

Why would you group Keith Van Horn in there? Sure, he didn't live up to the hype of being a #2 pick, but no way does he deserve to in there with those other names. He was still a decent player that put up 16 ppg over his career before it was cut short due to injuries.

Downtown · Post #18 » by **Downtown** » Tue Sep 8, 2009 3:54 pm

I agree. During the time he was healthy Van Horn was a very good player that could score and rebound with the best of them. But he was always going to be compared to Tim Duncan, who went #1 ahead of him. He certainly wasn't going to live up to that.

Just like people like to laugh at Bryant Reeves and the $55mil contract he got. I witnessed Big Country during his prime. He dropped 40 points on at least two occasions I can remember( I think it was against Portland and Boston but I'm not sure) and hit for 30 points on a number of games. Not a bad feat for a center. I was also sitting on the baseline during a game against the Lakers, who had Shaq in his prime. To this day I have never seen anyone defend Shaq any better than Bryant did on that day. The refs put away their whistles and let those guys bang as hard as they could when they went against each other. It was like watching two giant Walrus' slamming each other on a National Geographic show. It was once he blew out his knee that Reeves game severely took a downturn. He never fully recovered, and people made fun of his game given the size of his contract. That always seems to be the Big Country fans talk about.

I don't know why people focus on a players years when they're injured rather than when they're healthy and in their prime? I suppose Tracy McGrady will be the next one to be criticized. Alot of people have forgotten what a dominant scorer he was. Thabeet might end up as a very poor choice as a #2 overall pick, and many of us fans also saw it that way on draft night, but I think he could end up with a career like Tyson Chandler( I can't remember if he was #2 or #3).

Mezotarkus · Post #19 » by **Mezotarkus** » Wed Sep 9, 2009 2:11 am

Before you can judge Thabeet you have to determine what you expect from him. If Thabeet produced 10 ppg, 12+ rpg, and 3+ bpg in his prime then he will be worth the pick in my opinion. That kind of imposing presence in the middle is worth alot. Can anyone here say definitively that he won't produce those numbers? I think not.

GrizzledGrizzFan · Post #20 » by **GrizzledGrizzFan** » Wed Sep 9, 2009 3:17 am

Mezotarkus wrote:Before you can judge Thabeet you have to determine what you expect from him. If Thabeet produced 10 ppg, 12+ rpg, and 3+ bpg in his prime then he will be worth the pick in my opinion. That kind of imposing presence in the middle is worth alot.

Very fair observation, however...

Can anyone here say definitively that he won't produce those numbers? I think not.

While no one can definitively say he won't, he's far more likely not to - based on what he has displayed to date - than he will. No strength, no passion, no dice.