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Ford: Mike Conley on the trade block

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:37 pm
by I Am Awesome-O
It's rare that you hear a new name pop up on the trade front this late in the game, but two sources have told ESPN.com that the Grizzlies have let teams know Mike Conley can be had in exchange for cap relief and a good first-round pick.

The Grizzlies have had an on-again, off-again relationship with Conley since his rookie season. And with Jamaal Tinsley in place, and O.J. Mayo capable of swinging to the point, it sounds like they're ready to cut bait if the right deal comes along.

Although one source stressed that it's unlikely Conley is moved before the trade deadline, it's interesting that his name is even out there.

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Re: Ford: Mike Conley on the trade block

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:50 pm
by ThreeYearPlan
If Stern rigs the lottery for Memphis to get Wall or Turner than I'd trade him

Re: Ford: Mike Conley on the trade block

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:53 pm
by I Am Awesome-O
MayoisMemphis wrote:If Stern rigs the lottery for Memphis to get Wall or Turner than I'd trade him

:lol: Good luck with that.

Re: Ford: Mike Conley on the trade block

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:53 pm
by pardon_my_interruption
MayoisMemphis wrote:If Stern rigs the lottery for Memphis to get Wall or Turner than I'd trade him

You're delusional.

Re: Ford: Mike Conley on the trade block

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:03 pm
by ThreeYearPlan
Seriously, you can't trade Conley. O.J. can't play pg because we have no other sg's. Also, the free agent class and draft class outside Wall is very thin at the pg position

Re: Ford: Mike Conley on the trade block

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:25 pm
by MemGrizz723
Would not mind trading Conley

Re: Ford: Mike Conley on the trade block

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:02 am
by Blazinaway
Hmmm, I wonder if Blazers and Mem would do Bayless for Conley? MEM capspace making up the mil difference. Blazers need more of a solid shooting PG with solid handles and doesn't need the ball a ton, Bayless is a combo guard who can really take it to the rim but his outside shot is not that good.

Re: Ford: Mike Conley on the trade block

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:33 am
by I Am Awesome-O
Blazinaway wrote:Hmmm, I wonder if Blazers and Mem would do Bayless for Conley? MEM capspace making up the mil difference. Blazers need more of a solid shooting PG with solid handles and doesn't need the ball a ton, Bayless is a combo guard who can really take it to the rim but his outside shot is not that good.

I'd take Fernandez for him in a heartbeat. Not sure about Bayless. I don't like the fit with Mayo.

Re: Ford: Mike Conley on the trade block

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:25 am
by It_Was_Typed
Just curious guys, but how has O.J. looked playing PG lately? I've been busy with school and haven't seen him man the PG spot since the Hornets game, and he was terrible.

Re: Ford: Mike Conley on the trade block

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:53 am
by PHILA
Hedo for Conley ?

Re: Ford: Mike Conley on the trade block

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:53 am
by GrizzledGrizzFan
It_Was_Typed wrote:Just curious guys, but how has O.J. looked playing PG lately? I've been busy with school and haven't seen him man the PG spot since the Hornets game, and he was terrible.


He's horribly inconsistent. However, I'm betting that something like, oh, playing the position in games would improve that.

Re: Ford: Mike Conley on the trade block

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:30 pm
by boogiesdad
GrizzledGrizzFan wrote:
It_Was_Typed wrote:Just curious guys, but how has O.J. looked playing PG lately? I've been busy with school and haven't seen him man the PG spot since the Hornets game, and he was terrible.


He's horribly inconsistent. However, I'm betting that something like, oh, playing the position in games would improve that.


True that.
Still hard to believe that we passed on Tyreke for a C.

Re: Ford: Mike Conley on the trade block

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:44 pm
by pardon_my_interruption
boogiesdad wrote:Still hard to believe that we passed on Tyreke for a C.

I suppose I understand why people in Memphis have adopted Tyreke Evans as the poster child for what could have been for the Grizzlies in this past draft, but I think it's severely misguided. For a few reasons.

1. Memphians are only enamored with the thought of Tyreke Evans because we saw him play here with the Tigers last year. He was a household name to us BEFORE the draft. There are numerous players in that draft that would have been better selections in terms of building a team and assembling players with actual talent than Thabeet. Stephen Curry, Brandon Jennings, James Harden will all have better NBA careers than Hasheem Thabeet. So in that sense we would have been justified taking either of these guys #2. It's just that WE know Tyreke and of course Tyreke is having a great year.

2. I think it's naive to think that every GM goes into the draft looking to take the best player available only. Yes in theory that is what you would want your team to do, but that doesn't take into account real life circumstances. Players attitudes about your organization. Players attitudes about the game. Players attitude period. The organizations attitudes towards a player. The politicial game that is the NBA. I don't think anyone around wouldn't have said the Sacramento Kings could have used a player with the potential of Tyreke Evans to help revive that market over the next 3 years. The NBA is a very political league. They want to ensure that their teams in every market has players. Players that fans want to see and help owners increase their revenue streams. With Blake Griffin gone, what other player would have done that for Sac other than Reke? Rubio maybe but he specifically said he wouldn't come over unless he was in the top 3 and the Kings chose 4th.

Regarding the Grizzlies and the selection of Thabeet when you look back at the selections made, from the standpoint of how our organization is operating he was the logical choice for our owner (no matter how ridiculous it was). Most teams would have used that pick as leverage (taking Ricky Rubio or Tyreke Evans for instance and trading their rights to get players from another team to improve YOUR team) but you know what that would mean? More salary coming back to Memphis tied to a player most likely not on a rookie contract. And that wasn't happening. So if you aren't willing to use the leverage that you have to improve your team, what will you do? Take the player that fits into your organizations current method of operation (which everyone knows and the owner has already declared is a 3-year plan). In the past 3 drafts, the Grizzlies high profile draft picks/acquisitions have all been projects. Mike Conley because of his youth and lesser talent level, O.J. Mayo because he's an undersized SG that wants to develop into a PG, and now Hasheem Thabeet because he seemingly just found out what a basketball was 7 or so years ago. Right now the Memphis Grizzlies are functioning as a destination for young players to spend time and try and develop and if they pan out, they could eventually be moved to teams with bigger goals..ala Lowry to Houston. AKA a farm club. As long as we can maintain picks and get cash from it, we might oblige. Unless our current MO changes, I wouldn't be surprised to see Marc Gasol become the next player that gets moved to a higher caliber club due to us having a player that we need to develop at C in Thabeet.

For me it's not about us not drafting Tyreke specifically. It's about us drafting anyone but Hasheem Thabeet. It's about our method of operating which is piss poor and corrosive to building a legitimate basketball club. In terms of talent we would have been better off taking DeMar DeRozan #2 who is more talented than Thabeet and in time might be one of, if not the best, player out of this draft class.

Re: Ford: Mike Conley on the trade block

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:30 pm
by It_Was_Typed
I would have drafted DeJuan Blair with #2 over Hasheem Thabeet.

But really, the worst thing that could have happened was moving up to #2 and not staying at #7 or whatever the Grizz were slotted.