Expanding Era Draft R1 - Snakebites vs. lilroddyb*

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Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

Do not vote in this thread until both managers have submitted their writeups. Please ensure you give a rationale for your vote; votes with no explanation will not be counted.

If writeups aren't posted within 24 hours, we will vote solely based on the players they have drafted (and any rotations they have posted on their roster page).

**First to 3 votes advances.**

[Snakebites]

PG: Jason Kidd 09-10- 8.4 FGA- All Star
10/9/6, 42% 3pt on 5.2 attempts

SG: Klay Thompson 14-15 16.9 FGA- All NBA Third Team
22/3/3, 44% 3pt on 7.1 attempts

SF: Shawn Marion 10-11 10.4 FGA
12/6/1

PF: Dirk Nowitzki 10-11 16.2 FGA- All NBA 2nd Team, Finals MVP
23/7/3, 50/39/89, 61% TS

C: Andrew Bogut 14-15 5.3 FGA- All Defensive 2nd Team, 6th in DPOY Vote
6/8/3/2, 3.3 DWS (lead NBA)

B: Mo Williams 08-09 13.9 FGA- All Star
18/4/1, 44% 3pt on 5.2 Attempts, 3.1 VORP

B: Vince Carter 12-13- 10.6 FGA
13/4/2, 41% 3pt on 4.9 Attempts

B: Anderson Varejao 09-10- 6.1 FGA- All Defensive 2nd Team
8/8, 60% TS

Kidd (35)/Williams (13)
Klay (37)/Williams (11)
Marion (24)/Carter (24)
Dirk (39)/Marion (9)
Bogut (28)/Varejao (20)

Alrighty, lets do this.

My team is fundamentally sound and balanced. Dirk Nowitzki is the best score in this series by a decent margin. He can be deadly in a two man game with Jason Kidd but is also elite at creating his own shot. This team is obviously modeled off of the real 2011 Mavericks (with three starters from that team in my starting lineup here), but I'd argue that inserting Klay Thompson in at the 2 puts that offensive model into overdrive- he fits like a glove alongside Dirk and Kidd and should absolutely feast on the opportunities they offer. He can spot up but will also be terrific coming off of screens- I think adding him to an offense similar to the 2011 Mavericks makes that offense elite. Off the bench I have Mo Williams and veteran Vince Carter (who by this point had remade himself into a terrific shooter and very smart player who complements my starters perfectly). My team is balanced top to bottom and has a formula that works, with subs who complement my starters and bring something new to the table.

Roddy has a solid core 3 (Giannis, Kyrie, Manu) who complement each other well, but I'm not sure what his plan is defensively against my team. Giannis works best as an everywhere defender, which is undermined whatever he decides to do against my team. Whether he uses him as that classic center who must be the primary rim protector for a team or tries to put him on Dirk, he's not really playing to Giannis's strengths as a defender. And outside of Giannis I think his offense is more or less average and lacks an elite point of attack defender.

Defensively our best shot at containing Giannis is Shawn Marion, who has size and strength to disrupt him, with Bogut as a solid defensive backstop. The forward combo of Horry and Posey is too offensively limited to really punish me for putting my big men on them- Horry is an inconsistent shooter who isn't a net positive offensive player, and Posey is a decent spot up shooter who doesn't really bring much to the table dimensionally. I think if Roddy really wanted to be a matchup nightmare he needed at least one forward who was more capable threat to score. We also have an elite defensive backcourt that should match up well with Roddy's other two scoring threats.

Roddy has an interesting team that I think will struggle here running into a team that has a more fundamentally sound approach on both ends of the court.

[lilroddyb]

C: Giannis Antetokounmpo 38 min / David Lee 10 min
Pf: Robert Horry 36 min / David Lee 12 min
Sf: James Posey 36 min / Jr Smith 12 min
Sg: Manu Ginobili 36 min / Gary Payton jr 5 min / Jr Smith 5 min
Pg: Kyrie Irving 38 min / Gary Payton jr 10 min

2005 Manu Ginobili 10.5
2021 Giannis Antetokounmpo 18
2016 Kyrie Irving 16.6
2002 Robert Horry 5.7
2008 James posey 5.6
2022 Gary Payton jr 4.8
2013 David Lee 14.7
2016 Jr Smith 11

tfga: 86.9

Good luck Snakebites

offense

offense is build around the trio of Giannis, Manu and Kyrie Irving. I think they fit really well together. Giannis thrives with spacing around him and all of my guys are great to decent threepoint shooters outside of David Lee. Kyrie has had his up and downs during his career but can play great as an offball player next to an dominant playmaker ( Lebron and Luka ) so he should fit well next to Giannis and Manu.

Defense

All my guys are great defenders outside of Kyrie and David Lee I guess

defensive matchup

Giannis on Bogut stay close to the rim ready to help out on other players
Horry on Dirk
James Posey on Shawn Marion
Manu on Klay Thompson
Kyrie on Kidd

overall

Snake has great team but I think we match up well with him. Bogut is a great defender and Dirk is average but they lack the speed and will have trouble with Giannis/Manu and Kyrie on switches.

Shawn Marion was really bad threepoint shooter during the regular season and shot 15% from three and during the Playoffs he shot 0% and with Bogut I think Snake has two worst offensive players in the starting lineups which we can cheat of and help defending Dirk and Klay.

and it will be hard to contain Giannis with shawn marion and Bogut stopping him with both Horry and Posey being good three point shooters ( both around 39% from three during the playoffs )

lastly I think we have clear playmaking edge with 3 of the 5 best passers/playmkers ( Giannis,Manu, Kyrie vs Kidd/Mo )

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To be honest, I think Snake runs into a number of the same issues as Laimbeer in terms of countering roddy's speed and athleticism. However, he also has a much better defensive backcourt and the best offensive player in the series, both of which should allow him to control the tempo better. Both benches are pretty strong. My concern with Snake is that as valuable as Klay's overall skillset is, he's just too erratic of a scorer for me to feel comfortable with him as the unquestioned #2 against a team with roddy's firepower. It's an upgrade over the 2011 Mavs, but roddy's team is also more potent than that Heat squad when you factor in offensive fit, strategy, and depth. Having a great transition attack is something I find to be underappreciated in these games, and roddy's is dynamite.

Vote: lilroddyb

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I like both these teams. I agree that if roddy can get out in transition it's trouble, so it's a question of how much snakebites' team can slow the pace; they do kind of have the personnel for that. I also think roddy having to play Posey and Horry (51 mpg combined in real life) for 72 mpg combined maybe speaks to a lack of depth. Pretty much a coin flip for me, but I think I'll go with snakebites here.

[durantbird]

Snake has superior depth but I really like the Kyrie Manu Giannis trio. Giannis at C can be treaky sometimes though here it forces Dirk and Bogut to be more active and mobile on the perimeter, even though the Marion Bogut Varejao combo in itself is a solid answer to Giannis. I think the pace and space around Giannis make life a bit hard for Snake here.

Vote Roddy

[MadNESS]

Snake doesn't have an answer for Giannis, even though his team is theoretically better. I don't like Bogut on any team other than a bench player. I was surprised when he was drafted that early with guys like Dwight on the board still.
Kyrie/Manu/Giannis is tough even with Horry in the SL. Posey is just fine there and with those minutes FYI.

Vote: Roddy B (In my Cardi B voice).

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Roddy advances

[Snakebites]

Another glorious loss.

I dunno if I’m approaching these shallow drafts wrong or I’ve just had unlucky draft spots.

Probably taking a break after the Degrees draft i already committed to.

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Another glorious loss.

I dunno if I’m approaching these shallow drafts wrong or I’ve just had unlucky draft spots.

Probably taking a break after the Degrees draft i already committed to.

I think this current draft is my first semifinal since like May or June