Derrick Rose Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - Snakebites** vs Fadeaway_J

durantbird · Post #1 » by **durantbird** » Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:32 pm

Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

Do not vote in this thread until both managers have submitted their writeups. Please ensure you give a rationale for your vote; votes with no explanation will not be counted.

If writeups aren't posted within 24 hours, we will vote solely based on the players they have drafted (and any rotations they have posted on their roster page).

**First to 3 votes advances.**

Snakebites wrote:

Fadeaway_J wrote:

Post #2 » by **Fadeaway_J** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 4:22 am

Starters
C - Willis Reed (1969-70)

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PF - Lamar Odom (2009-10)

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SF - James Posey (2003-04)

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SG - Kobe Bryant (2007-08)

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PG - Scottie Pippen (1995-96)

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Bench
C/F - Rick Mahorn (1988-89)

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F/G - Anthony Parker (2009-10)

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G - Terry Porter (1997-98)

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Rotations
C - Reed (38), Mahorn (10)
PF - Odom (36), Posey (8), Mahorn (4)
SF - Posey (24), Parker (14), Pippen (10)
SG - Bryant (40), Parker (8)
PG - Pippen (28), Porter (20)

FGA Per Player

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We play an inside-out game based around our MVP duo of Kobe and Reed, with Pippen filling in the blanks as the ultimate third option. Our big selling point is versatility on both ends of the floor. Kobe, Pippen, and Odom can all function as the ballhandler in a pick-and-roll, and both Odom and Reed can be the roll man. Kobe can score in an unparallelled variety of ways, either creating in isolation or moving without the ball. Reed can back his man down in the post, spot up for his deadly midranger, or crash the offensive glass. Pippen, Kobe, Odom, and Posey can make things happen on the break. We have solid shooting around our primary creators between Posey, Parker, and Porter.

Defensively, Reed anchors things in the paint but the rest of the lineup is super switchable. At 6-6, Kobe is our smallest starter, and the 6-10 Odom has the lateral mobility to hang with bigger wings and even some guards. The presence of Pippen and Posey ensures Kobe can avoid the most taxing defensive matchups and conserve his energy for the other end. Mahorn brings an old-school physical edge off the bench.

Matchup
- Defensive assignments are straight up. Pippen takes away the size advantage Frazier normally has over other PGs. Ben's limitations allow Reed to be even more impactful as a rim protector.
- Snake has a nice balanced offensive group, but scoring against this level of defense becomes tougher when you don't have that one player who can consistently draw a double and force the other team into rotation, like Kobe does for us. With no weak defender to pick at, we like our chances of containing guys like Frazier, Manu, and PG (mostly) one-on-one, and during Ben's minutes we're almost playing 4-on-5.

Good luck Snake.

Post #3 » by **Snakebites** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 4:52 pm

All NBA First:

2017-18 Paul George - 21.0 FGA
3rd in MVP Vote, All NBA First, All Defensive First, 3rd in DPOY
28/8/4/2, 6.6 VORP, 39% 3pt on 9.8 attempts,

6MOY Vote Getter:

2006-07 Manu Ginobili - 11.4 FGA
17/4/3, 61% TS, 40% 3pt on 4.3 Att, 5.1 VORP, .257 WS/48

Chicago Bulls:

1996-97 Ron Harper - 5.3 FGA
6/3/3, 36% 3pt on 2.5 Att, 2.1 VORP

New York Knicks:

1969-70 Walt Frazier - 12.8 FGA
All NBA First, All Defensive First, NBA Champion
21/8/6, .236 WS/48, 58% TS

Cleveland Cavaliers:

2015-16 Richard Jefferson - 4.2 FGA
6/2, 58% TS, 38% 3pt

Minnesota Timberwolves:

2017-18 Karl Anthony Towns 14.3 FGA
All NBA Third
21/12/2, 65% TS, 42% 3pt on 3.5 Att, 5.2 VORP

Detroit Pistons:

2002-03 Ben Wallace 6.0 FGA
All NBA 2nd, DPOY, All Defensive First
7/15/3, 7.2 DWS, 4.8 VORP

Memphis Grizzlies:

22-23 Jaren Jackson Jr 13.0 FGA
DPOY, All Star, All Defensive First
19/7/3, 61% TS, 36% 3pt on 4.5 Att

Frazier (38)/Harper (10)
Ginobili (36)/Harper (12)
George (38)/Jefferson (10)
JJJ (30)/ KAT (18)
Wallace (33)/ KAT (15)

Total: 88/88

Alrighty, lets do this.

I think that my defense really plays to my strengths here. If Fade's team has a weakness it's a heavy reliance on scoring near the basket. Posey is the only super reliable outside shooter, and while Pippen, Reed and Kobe are all capable midrange guys, Reed is still a bigman of his time who did a lot of scoring near the basket, and Pippen and Kobe also had slashing as a major part of our bread and butter. I think that plays to my strengths with the best rim protection in this series. We'll put PG on Pippen, Frazier on Kobe, Ginobili on Posey, JJJ on Odom, and of course Ben on Reed. He's going to have to generate offense in a relatively slow, grinding game, and I think my defense is well suited to limit him in those circumstances. Kobe/Pippen/Odom is a great trio of big playmakers but I don't think Pippen and Odom do enough off-ball to complement Kobe optimally here.

Offensively I rely on my balance again here. Paul George had Kobe levels of production in the selected years, albeit without the same crunch time chops. But I think the Frazier/Ginobili backcourt more than makes up for that issue. And I also think that my offense is also balanced in another way, in that we're effectively able to score from anywhere on the court.

GL Fade. Great team you've built here.

durantbird · Post #4 » by **durantbird** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 7:21 pm

Snake seems to have a more natural fit and as always better depth. Not too high on Odom as a starter next to Pippen, they both act kind of similarly next to Kobe but his ideal fit is a reliable shooting PG. In terms of defense, both teams are great. Having Frazier to guard Kobe instead of needing to put George on him should have a meaningful impact in terms of energy reservation.

Vote Snake

Dr Positivity · Post #5 » by **Dr Positivity** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 7:52 pm

durantbird wrote:Snake seems to have a more natural fit and as always better depth. Not too high on Odom as a starter next to Pippen, they both act kind of similarly next to Kobe but his ideal fit is a reliable shooting PG. In terms of defense, both teams are great. Having Frazier to guard Kobe instead of needing to put George on him should have a meaningful impact in terms of energy reservation.

Vote Fade

Assuming you meant to vote for Snake by that write up.

Jon_3232 · Post #6 » by **Jon_3232** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 9:49 pm

Snakes fit and talent is better here bar none . Bench is good too
Vote snake

JimmyPlopper · Post #7 » by **JimmyPlopper** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:51 pm

I think Willis Reed will be able to have his way even against the likes of Big Ben, who while an all-time great defender and rebounder, he was also better as a weakside shotblocker than he was as a man-to-man defender. Sheed and Uncle Cliff before him would typically take the better offensive threat down low, while Ben would "cover" his guy, with a free-safety or a sweeper type mentality for protecting the rim most of all. Reed's ability to draw him out a little further, could disrupt his ability to protect the rim for other opposing slashers.

I also think Walt Frazier is a much better floor general than Pippen, who while capable in the role, does not have the quickness against Frazier who is even more intelligent and savvy than Pippen as well.

The way I look at the teams in how they would try to play their game instead of their opponents game - when you have an all-time leader at point who would have a significant quickness advantage on Pippen. I think I would have liked to see Pippen on Paul George, and Kobe on Walt.

I believe that this would be a close game with Snakes team coming out on top, but with Willis Reed being the MVP of the overall game.

Vote Snake

durantbird · Post #8 » by **durantbird** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:00 pm

Snake wins the game!

Post #9 » by **Fadeaway_J** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:04 pm

GG Snake.

Feels like I was one impact player short here.

Post #10 » by **Snakebites** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:16 pm

GG Fade

Happy to get a win here.

There was a part of me that thought I'd be screwed without a real MVP- I was mostly building a team I wanted and wasn't sure how it would be received.

JimmyPlopper · Post #11 » by **JimmyPlopper** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:17 pm

Both were very good teams. This was a fun game overall. Happy to see the theme carried on with Dikembe after his unfortunate passing