Dikembe Mutombo Draft Playin - Jon_3232* vs ardee

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Dikembe Mutombo Draft Playin - Jon_3232* vs ardee 

Post#1 » by durantbird » Sat Oct 12, 2024 7:12 pm

Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

Do not vote in this thread until both managers have submitted their writeups. Please ensure you give a rationale for your vote; votes with no explanation will not be counted.

If writeups aren't posted within 24 hours, we will vote solely based on the players they have drafted (and any rotations they have posted on their roster page).

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Re: Dikembe Mutombo Draft Playin - Jon_3232 vs ardee 

Post#2 » by Jon_3232 » Sat Oct 12, 2024 9:31 pm

PG - Mookie Blaylock (38) / Pablo Prigioni (10)
SG - Clyde Drexler (38) / Paul Pierce (10)
SF - Kawhi Leonard (32) / Paul Pierce (16)
PF - Charles Barkley (38) / Kawhi Leonard (6) / Omer Asik (4)
C - Dikembe Mutombo (38) / Omer Asik (10)


1996-97 Mookie Blaylock - 14.9 fga - ATL
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1991-92 Clyde Drexler - 19.4 fga - POR (2 Finals)
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2015-16 Kawhi Leonard - 15.1 fga - DPOY
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1989-90 Charles Barkley - 14.9 fga - PHI
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1994-95 Dikembe Mutombo - 7.7 fga - Den
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2013-14 Pablo Prigioni - 3 fga - NYK
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2013-14 Paul Pierce - 9.5 fga - BRK
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2013-14 Omer Asik - 4 fga
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87.5/88 fga

Pretty elite offense and defense here. Robinson is an elite rim protector but Barkley and Drexler are going to wear him down.
I’ve got all the answers to stop ardee o. Elite perimeter D and elite interior D. Leonard and Pierce on Durant,Mutombo on Robinson. Blaylock will hound Brunson
Barkley and Drexler get a rest on Iggy and Horry.
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Re: Dikembe Mutombo Draft Playin - Jon_3232 vs ardee 

Post#3 » by ardee » Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:01 am

2017 Kevin Durant: 16.5 FGA (made Finals with two separate teams)
1992 David Robinson: 15.8 FGA (DPoY)
2023 Jalen Brunson: 17.6 FGA (Knicks)
2012 Andre Iguodala: 10.2 FGA (Sixers)
1995 Robert Horry: 8.4 FGA (Rockets)
2019 Joe Harris: 9.8 FGA (Nets)
2024 Justin Holiday: 3.3 FGA (Nuggets)
2009 Maurice Evans: 6.0 FGA (Hawks)

Total: 87.6/88.0 FGA

Brunson (38)/Holiday (10)
Iguodala (18)/Harris (24)/Holiday (6)
Durant (18)/Iguodala (20)/Evans (10)
Horry (28)/Durant (20)
Robinson (38)/Horry (10)

-Our big 3 of Brunson, Durant and Robinson have perfect fit. This version of Brunson is similar to prime Russ but with better shooting and will work extremely well next to peak KD. Robinson is the perfect third option, he won't need to post-up as much which is a weakness of his, the majority of his points will come from pick and rolls, offensive rebounds and other easy baskets.

-Everybody on our roster besides Robinson shoots at least 38% from 3, so Brunson and Durant will have PLENTY of room to go to work.

-In terms of his defenders, he mentions Kawhi and Pierce on Durant... That's not exactly a good matchup for him. Remember, we DID see Kawhi on Durant in 2016, and it didn't exactly go well. Durant averaged 29 ppg on 60% TS and the Thunder upset the Spurs. This is a better version of Durant with WAY more help. Also, we'll take 36 year old Pierce on Durant all day and five times on Sundays.

-He also mentions Barkley getting a "rest" on Iggy. This is 2012 Iggy, the only year he made the All-Star game and shot 39.5% from 3. Chuck won't be resting much, and if he is, we'll get open 3s.

-On defense, we'll play the matchups straight: Brunson on Mookie (who isn't that much of an offensive threat, his career TS% is 49), Iggy on Clyde, Durant on Kawhi, Horry on Barkley (Horry was VERY good defensively in his younger days, remember that. Even as a Laker he would frequently guard Duncan) and Robinson on Deke (who is a relative non-factor on offense, allowing the Admiral to help wherever needed).

-Jon's team feels more like a collection of talent than a team with clear roles honestly. A lot of isolation scorers in Drexler, Kawhi and Barkley, but not enough playmaking, and DEFINITELY not enough shooting. Kawhi is his only starter who averages above 37% from 3.

-On the whole, I think I have the two best players (Durant and Robinson), and my fit is just better. Vote ardee!
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Re: Dikembe Mutombo Draft Playin - Jon_3232 vs ardee 

Post#4 » by JimmyPlopper » Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:13 am

Some of the role players on ardee's team are being asked to do a lot. Horry at center is going to be dominated on the boards by Asik for that little stretch. I'm not a fan of Prigioni, but Justin Holiday to me is not too far off, considering in this case he would be primarily playing out of position, which would be fine in a vacuum, but I don't think he's a very good distributor.

Taking them by matchup:
Brunson will still put up his numbers, while slowed down by Mookie, and without the ability to slow Mookie down himself. Adv Brunson by a medium to large amount
Drexler vs Iggy: Drexler by a lot
Kawhi vs Durant: close to even for me
Barkley vs Horry: Barkley by a lot
Robinson vs Mutombo: Robinson by a medium to large amount

I like the intangibles and the the mentality of Jon's players which pushes him over the top.

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Re: Dikembe Mutombo Draft Playin - Jon_3232 vs ardee 

Post#5 » by wackbone » Sun Oct 13, 2024 3:01 am

Feel like Jon has the clear talent edge, but the spacing edge is a bit too much in ardee's favor here for me. If at least one of Drexler/Barkley/Mutombo were a threat from deep, then chances are Jon would squeak one out, but alas...

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Re: Dikembe Mutombo Draft Playin - Jon_3232 vs ardee 

Post#6 » by durantbird » Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:20 pm

I just like Clyde-Kawhi-Barkley more as a leading trio, although Brunson-Durant-Robinson is great as well. Also Blaylock is the perfect complementary piece here. Yeah Mutombo might not be the ideal fit with Chuck, but I still prefer Jon a bit more.

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Re: Dikembe Mutombo Draft Playin - Jon_3232 vs ardee 

Post#7 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Oct 13, 2024 2:07 pm

Don't agree with a few of ardee's arguments here. His spacing is certainly better, but I'm not seeing this playmaking gap he's referring to, and Brunson is nothing like Russ stylistically (with passing ironically being where Russ has a sizeable edge in that comparison). In any case, my main concern is that I don't think Horry or KD have the physicality to deal with Barkley, although Robinson as a rim protector is a big help there.

Dikembe/Blaylock as defensive bookends is pretty nasty (as was the case in real life) and they're also great individual covers for Robinson/Brunson. They do bring some offensive limitations though.

The back ends of both rosters are pretty shaky (I think this draft was generally tricky for filling out benches), but I do have much more faith in Pierce as a sixth man than in Harris, who is usually awful in the playoffs.

Honestly, Pierce as a legit lower-end starter just about settles this for me, as I'm struggling to separate these two otherwise.

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Re: Dikembe Mutombo Draft Playin - Jon_3232 vs ardee 

Post#8 » by durantbird » Sun Oct 13, 2024 2:28 pm

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