Non Peak Franchises Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - Fadeaway_J** vs Laimbeer

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Non Peak Franchises Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - Fadeaway_J** vs Laimbeer 

Post#1 » by durantbird » Mon Nov 4, 2024 12:23 pm

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Re: Non Peak Franchises Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - Fadeaway_J vs Laimbeer 

Post#2 » by Laimbeer » Mon Nov 4, 2024 2:44 pm

(Bracketed numbers are league rank)
Moses Malone ( 1983 ) 16.7 - Most Valuable Player, Finals MVP
Kristaps Porziņģis ( 2024 ) 13.2 - PER (9th); W/S per 48 (4th), 37.5% on 5.1 3PA
Julius Erving ( 1981 ) 18.6 - Most Valuable Player
Shane Battier ( 2009 ) 5.9 - DPOY (4), 38.4% on 4.0 3PA
Deron Williams ( 2013 ) 14.4 - All-NBA Votes, PER (20th), W/S per 48 (15th)

Isaiah Hartenstein ( 2024 ) 4.9 - Off rtg (2nd), Def rtg (5th), W/S per 48 (12th),
Toni Kukoč ( 2001 ) 9.0 - 44.6% on 2.4 3PA, 4.5 ast. per 36
Alex Caruso ( 2021 ) 5.3 - All-D Votes, 40.1% on 2.4 3PA

88.0

Moses Malone (38) / Isaiah Hartenstein (10)
Kristaps Porziņģis (36) / Toni Kukoč (12)
Julius Erving (38) / Toni Kukoč (10)
Shane Battier (36) / Alex Caruso (12)
Deron Williams (38) / Alex Caruso (10)

Good luck, Fade

We're a potent offensive team with a proven combination of Moses and Doc, both in MVP seasons. They're surrounded by good shooting and a savvy floor general in Deron. We know Kareem struggled with the physicality of Moses. Wiggins is solid defensively, I suppose, but not the top drawer type of stopper you'd like to assign to MVP Erving. The backcourt of Allen and Hardaway is weak as well.

We match up pretty well. Moses/Kareem, Zinger/Wallace, Doc/Wiggins, Battier/Allen, and Deron/Hardaway. Moses, Zinger, and I-Hart give us 48 minutes of excellent interior defense.

Their bench is okay, but I like ours a bit better.

Kareem has a very tall order here - being their only MVP type player and having a very physical match-up in Moses. Our talent and depth win out.
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Re: Non Peak Franchises Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - Fadeaway_J vs Laimbeer 

Post#3 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Nov 4, 2024 10:21 pm

Starters
C - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1979-80)
Spoiler:
24.8 ppg, 10.8 ppg, 4.5 apg, 1.0 spg, 3.4 bpg, .604 FG%, .765 FT%, .639 TS%
- Led the NBA in bpg, OWS (9.5), WS (14.8), WS/48 (.227), VORP (7.3)
- NBA Champion
- NBA All-Star
- NBA MVP
- All-NBA First Team
- All-Defensive First Team

PF - Rasheed Wallace (2005-06)
Spoiler:
15.1 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 2.3 rpg, 1.0 spg, 1.6 bpg, .430 FG%, .357 3P%, .743 FT%, 155 3P (1.9 pg), .527 TS%
- NBA All-Star

SF - Andrew Wiggins (2021-22)
Spoiler:
17.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.2 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.7 bpg, .466 FG%, .393 3P%, .634 FT%, 157 3P (2.2 pg), .560 TS%
- NBA Champion
- NBA All-Star

SG - Ray Allen (2008-09)
Spoiler:
18.2 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.8 apg, 0.9 spg, 0.2 bpg, .480 FG%, .409 3P%, .952 FT%, 199 3P (2.5 pg), .624 TS%
- NBA All-Star

PG - Tim Hardaway (1997-98)
Spoiler:
18.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 8.3 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.2 bpg, .431 FG%, .351 3P%, .781 FT%, 155 3P (1.9 pg), .530 TS%
- NBA All-Star
- All-NBA Second Team

Bench
F - Dennis Rodman (1993-94)
Spoiler:
4.7 ppg, 17.3 rpg, 2.3 apg, 0.7 spg, 0.4 bpg, .534 FG%, .520 FT%, .549 TS%
- Led the NBA in rpg, ORB% (17.9), DRB % (32.8), TRB% (25.7)
- All-Defensive Second Team

F - Royce O'Neale (2018-19)
Spoiler:
5.2 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.5 apg, 0.7 spg, 0.3 bpg, .475 FG%, .386 3P%, .762 FT%, 68 3P (0.8 pg), .589 TS%

G - Patrick Beverley (2018-19)
Spoiler:
7.6 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 3.8 apg, 0.9 spg, 0.6 bpg, .407 FG%, .397 3P%, .780 FT%, 112 3P (1.4 pg), .561 TS%

Rotations
C - Abdul-Jabbar (38), Wallace (10)
PF - Wallace (24), Rodman (24)
SF - Wiggins (35), O'Neale (13)
SG - Allen (38), Beverley (10)
PG - Hardaway (38), Beverley (10)

FGA Per Player
Spoiler:
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 16.9
Ray Allen - 13.2
Rasheed Wallace - 13.3
Andrew Wiggins - 14.0
Tim Hardaway - 16.0
Dennis Rodman - 3.7
Patrick Beverley - 6.1
Royce O'Neale - 4.2

Total: 87.4/88.0


Our formula is straightforward: take one of the most dominant low-post scorers of all time, and surround him with shooting at every position. These aren't just spot-up guys though: Hardaway and Allen are a lethal backcourt, Wiggins is a capable shot creator for a fourth option, and Sheed is a decent failsafe on the block. Defensively, the frontcourt is pretty formidable with Kareem and Sheed protecting the rim, Wiggins and O'Neale on the wings, and Rodman doing a bit of everything. Beverley is a quality 3-and-D PG who can pair with both Hardaway and Allen.

Matchup
- Defensive assigments will be straight up. Allen gets to rest on Battier, while Wiggins backed up by the Kareem-Sheed tandem is a great counter to Doc. Bev comes in off the bench to pressure Deron for a good chunk of the game.
- We have a moderate spacing advantage with all four non-Kareem starters being volume three-point threats. Additionally, all five starters are capable of dropping 20+ points on any given night. Even without a second MVP, we have more than enough firepower.

Good luck Laimbeer.
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Re: Non Peak Franchises Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - Fadeaway_J vs Laimbeer 

Post#4 » by durantbird » Tue Nov 5, 2024 5:54 am

Close call. Kareem is the best player here, and while there's a difference between Allen and Erving, I like the synergy of Allen Kareem. Fade having a fifth All Star in Wiggins over Battier, plus this version of Tim Hardaway being significantly better than this version of Deron Williams, give the edge to Fade for me.

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Re: Non Peak Franchises Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - Fadeaway_J vs Laimbeer 

Post#5 » by Square » Tue Nov 5, 2024 3:30 pm

Two good teams of course. I see the appeal of Laimbeer's team, but I'm somewhat skeptical both about the defense and about this version of Deron. I think Kareem/Sheed/Rodman/Wiggins is a pretty good defensive answer for Moses and the Doctor, and I just think Kareem is the most reliable two points in the matchup. On the other hand, you could certainly argue that Fade's team has no second scorer on Dr. J's level, maybe not even one on Porzingis's level, which is a pretty big swing. So it's by no means an easy call.

I guess I slightly lean Fade, sorry Laimbeer.
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Re: Non Peak Franchises Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - Fadeaway_J vs Laimbeer 

Post#6 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Nov 5, 2024 4:52 pm

Close but I prefer the fit of Fade's team as I don't love Deron with Erving/Moses style, while Fade's starting lineup is extremely balanced. Vote Fade.
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Re: Non Peak Franchises Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - Fadeaway_J vs Laimbeer 

Post#7 » by durantbird » Tue Nov 5, 2024 5:04 pm

Fade wins
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Re: Non Peak Franchises Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - Fadeaway_J** vs Laimbeer 

Post#8 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Nov 5, 2024 5:25 pm

GG Laimbeer.

Wasn't sure how Hardaway would work out since he isn't often drafted.
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Re: Non Peak Franchises Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - Fadeaway_J** vs Laimbeer 

Post#9 » by Snakebites » Tue Nov 5, 2024 5:53 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:GG Laimbeer.

Wasn't sure how Hardaway would work out since he isn't often drafted.

There weren’t any perfect teams in this pool. Yours had a clear game plan around an elite player. I tried to do something similar but fell a bit short.

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