Hubie Brown Draft - R1 - Fadeaway_J* vs Larry_Russell

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Which team wins?

Poll ended at Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:24 pm

Fadeaway_J
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75%
Larry_Russell
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Total votes: 8

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Hubie Brown Draft - R1 - Fadeaway_J* vs Larry_Russell 

Post#1 » by durantbird » Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:49 pm

Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

Do not vote in this thread until both managers have submitted their writeups. Once the writeups are posted, I will add a poll, and the team with the most votes after 24 hours will advance. EACH MANAGER SHOULD ALSO VOTE FOR THEIR OWN TEAM IN THE POLL - IF YOU FAIL TO DO THIS, YOU ARE SIMPLY GIVING AWAY A VOTE. If the votes are tied, we will decide the matchup via AI vote.

You are not required to state or explain your vote, but you are free to comment in the thread if you want to.

If writeups aren't posted within 24 hours, we will vote solely based on the players they have drafted (and any rotations they have posted on their roster page).

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Re: Hubie Brown Draft - R1 - Fadeaway_J vs Larry_Russell 

Post#2 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Feb 17, 2025 6:44 pm

PG: Derek Harper (1995-96) 11.5
14ppg, 2.5rpg, 4.5apg, 1.6spg, 37.5% on 4-3pta

SG: James Posey (2003-04) 9.4
13.7ppg, 5rpg, 1.5apg, 1.7spg, 0.5bpg, 38.5% on 3.5-3pta
DPOY votes received, 11th in Def voting

SF: Khris Middleton (20129-20) 15.3
21ppg, 6.2rpg, 4.3apg, 1spg, 41.5% on 5.7-3pta
AS, all nba and all def votes received

PF: Rasheed Wallace (2007-08) 11.3
12.7ppg, 6.6rpg, 1.8apg, 1.2spg, 1.7bpg, 35.6% on 4-3pta
MVP votes, DPOY Votes, AS

C: Kareem Abdul Jabbar (1971-72) 21.2
34.8ppg, 16.6rpg, 4.6apg
MVP, FMVP, NBA-1, AS, all time best WS, all time best OWS

PG/SG: Delon Wright (2021-22) 3.5
4.5ppg, 3rpg, 2.5apg, 1.2spg, 38% on 1.5-3pta

SF/PF: Glen Rice (2000-01) 10
12ppg, 4.1rpg, 1.2apg, 0.5spg, 39% on 2-3pta

C: Isaiah HArtenstein (2023-24) 4.9
7.8ppg, 8.3rpg, 2.5apg, 1.2spg, 1bpg


PG: Harper (38) / Wright (10)
SG: Posey (38) / Wright (10)
SF: Middleton (38) / Rice (10)
PF: Wallace (38) / Rice (10)
C: KAJ (38) / Hartenstein (10)

I have amazing defense here. Anchored by a realy shot alterer/blocker in KAJ at his athletic peak. Sheed doing all the elite defensive things that he does. And the wings are full with all high level defenders in Harper/Posey and MIddleton

For matchups I will go with
Harper on Thomas
Middleton on Battier (where he can, at times cheat to double up if needed and use his footspeed to recover out to battiers 6 attempts per game
Posey will take on Doc.
Wallace takes JJjr
KAJ takes on Erving

Offensively we space around KAJ with shooting at every spot. KAJ offensive mastery and peak surrounded with great playmaking and shooting.

I believe that Fades team is a bit small here. With Erving playing playing PF for 18 minutes, Charlie Ward playing SG for 12 minutes I believe that I can just really overpower this team.

I also believe that my bench is vastly superior in this one.
Hartenstein, Glen Rice and Wright give me far more than Fades bench
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Re: Hubie Brown Draft - R1 - Fadeaway_J vs Larry_Russell 

Post#3 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Feb 17, 2025 6:51 pm

Starters
C - Patrick Ewing (1989-90)
Spoiler:
28.6 ppg, 10.9 rpg, 2.2 apg, 1.0 spg, 4.0 bpg, .551 FG%, .775 FT%, .599 TS%
- NBA All-Star
- All-NBA First Team

PF - Jaren Jackson Jr. (2022-23)
Spoiler:
18.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.0 apg, 1.0 spg, 3.0 bpg, .506 FG%, .355 3P%, .788 FT%, 100 3P (1.6 pg), .613 TS%
- Led the NBA in bpg, BLK% (9.6)
- Defensive Player of the Year
- NBA All-Star
- All-Defensive First Team

SF - Julius Erving (1981-82)
Spoiler:
24.4 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 3.9 apg, 2.0 spg, 1.7 bpg, .546 FG%, .763 FT%, .593 TS%
- Led in the NBA in WS/48 (.229), BPM (7.7)
- NBA All-Star
- All-NBA First Team

SG - Shane Battier (2008-09)
Spoiler:
7.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 2.3 apg, 0.8 bpg, 0.9 spg, .410 FG%, .384 3P%, .821 FT%, 91 3P (1.5 pg), .568 TS%
- All-Defensive Second Team

PG - Isiah Thomas (1985-86)
Spoiler:
20.9 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 10.8 apg, 2.2 spg, 0.3 bpg, .488 FG%, .310 3P%, .790 FT%, .554 TS%
- NBA All-Star
- All-NBA First Team

Bench
F - Mike Miller (2013-14)
Spoiler:
7.1 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.6 apg, 0.3 spg, 0.1 bpg, .481 FG%, .459 3P%, .821 FT%, 107 3P (1.3 pg), .619 TS%

G - Garrison Mathews (2023-24)
Spoiler:
4.9 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.6 apg, 0.3 spg, 0.1 bpg, .456 FG%, .440 3P%, .810 FT%, 85 3P (1.3 pg), .665 TS%

G - Charlie Ward (2000-01)
Spoiler:
7.1 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 4.5 apg, 1.1 spg, 0.2 bpg, .416 FG%, .383 3P%, .800 FT%, 67 3P (1.1 pg), .539 TS%

Rotations
C - Ewing (40), Jackson (8)
PF - Jackson (30), Erving (18)
SF - Erving (22), Miller (14), Battier (12)
SG - Battier (26), Ward (12), Mathews (10)
PG - Thomas (40), Ward (8)

FGA Per Player
Spoiler:
Julius Erving - 17.6
Jaren Jackson Jr. - 13.0
Shane Battier - 5.9
Isiah Thomas - 16.2
Patrick Ewing - 20.4
Charlie Ward - 6.1
Mike Miller - 5.4
Garrison Mathews - 3.4

Total: 88.0/88.0


Plan A for my team is to run off makes, misses, and turnovers to generate easy transition buckets or early offense while the opposing defense is still out of position. Not only do we have Isiah at the controls and Doc on the wing, but our 4-5 combo of JJJ and peak Ewing is probably the most athletic in the draft and should be able to outrun opposing bigs. Additionally, with Isiah and Doc as ballhawks (2.2 and 2.0 spg respectively) and the insane shotblocking frontcourt of Ewing, JJJ, and Doc, we will be able create a lot of those fast breaks ourselves. When the game slows down, we have the three-pronged attack of Ewing in the mid-to-low post, Doc on the wing, and Isiah creating from the top of the key, with JJJ an overqualified fourth option who also spaces the floor. All our role players are excellent three-point shooters who take advantage of the attention drawn by our stars.

Matchup
- Defensive assignments are Isiah-Harper, Doc-Posey, Battier-Middleton, JJJ-Sheed, Ewing-Kareem.
- While Kareem is the best player in the series, he's up against a formidable counterpart on both ends in peak Ewing. Meanwhile, we have the clear edge in perimeter firepower with Doc and Isiah compared to Middleton and post-prime Harper. JJJ is a notch above this version of Sheed as well. I don't think Kareem outperforms Ewing by enough to make up those disparities.
- Much as I like Middleton, I don't think he holds up as the undisputed #2 option with Battier hounding him all series.

Good luck Larry.
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Re: Hubie Brown Draft - R1 - Fadeaway_J vs Larry_Russell 

Post#4 » by durantbird » Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:26 pm

wackbone wrote:

Larry_Russell wrote:

Fadeaway_J wrote:

flaco wrote:

MadNess wrote:

Dr Positivity wrote:

Laimbeer wrote:

Poll is open to vote. Fade and Larry, please vote for yourselves
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Re: Hubie Brown Draft - R1 - Fadeaway_J vs Larry_Russell 

Post#5 » by durantbird » Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:27 pm

Larry went a bit too conservative here. Aside from KAJ, I don't think his firepower matches. Went with Fade
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Re: Hubie Brown Draft - R1 - Fadeaway_J vs Larry_Russell 

Post#6 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:30 pm

durantbird wrote:Larry went a bit too conservative here. Aside from KAJ, I don't think his firepower matches. Went with Fade



My total PPG = 120.5

Fades total PPG = 118.9
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Re: Hubie Brown Draft - R1 - Fadeaway_J vs Larry_Russell 

Post#7 » by wackbone » Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:54 pm

I like Middleton more than most but it's hard to vouch for him as a true #2 in the context of our games. Kareem is comfortably the best player in the series but IT/Erving/Ewing are comfortably the next best 3. And Battier/JJJ/Ewing make for an elite defensive frontcourt.
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Re: Hubie Brown Draft - R1 - Fadeaway_J vs Larry_Russell 

Post#8 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:57 pm

I would have preferred a younger Harper here considering the need for a star PG, but I think Isiah-Erving-Ewing was too strong anyway.
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Re: Hubie Brown Draft - R1 - Fadeaway_J vs Larry_Russell 

Post#9 » by MadNESS » Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:58 pm

Voted Fade who built a true roster with multiple stars.
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Re: Hubie Brown Draft - R1 - Fadeaway_J vs Larry_Russell 

Post#10 » by durantbird » Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:04 pm

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